joe Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Now you have to imagine this said with Spurrier's characteristic twang. This is as near as I can remember it. "I'm taking a page from Dan Wilkenson. You know, I was upset that he was not participating much in our offseason workouts and he told me 'don't worry coach, when the season starts I'll be there.' And now the season's started and he was right. He is in great shape. Now you don't want your whole team to have that attitude, but it works for him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 I am down with taking it easy on the big guys early in camp. Yes, they are hogs...yes, they do get winded early in camp...yes, they it was a voluntary workout. But, if you are going to depend on veteran anchors in the middle, the last thing you want is for them to be limping around at mid-season or on the IR. Look at Bruce Smith. He knows what time it is...the guy is always in great shape, but he never seems to have wanted to be in camp early since he has been a skin. Rest will benefit the veterans. Longgggevity has it's place!:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsblitz Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Like they always say.... The season is a marathon not a sprint. You gotta keep those old legs fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Dan Wilkenson's in great shape? Compared to whom? He was by far the slowest Redskin in every drill I saw him participate in. It may be that he's not one for practice. I guess that's fine if he brings it at game time, but we're not talking about one of the league's dominant DTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 look, in Lewis' system Wilkinson is not going to be trying to imitate LaRoi Glover and get 15 sacks. He is going to be plugging the middle and stopping the run first Wilkinson does get a good upfield push and should have 7 or 8 sacks which is very respectable for an inside player. but that is not what the Skins are counting on him for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 What bulldog said. A bit more flexibility in SOS than in Marty, eh? Let's see what Larry Centers has to say about that. Larry? Larry: :cuss: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posse81 Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Big Daddy is never going to finish first in sprints, but I think what SS means is that he is where he needs to be, as far as conditioning goes, in game situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 How imagine the fun SS could have with Larry Centers. It would be sick. Marty is such a fat head. Cutting Larry Centers just for spite epitomizes Marty. He knew that with the offense would need a guy like Larry, but he cut him anyway. Surely he knew that move would have a detrimental impact on the offense, and if he didn't, he's dumber than he looks moron :gus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W&M Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 A lot of peole say college coaches can't make it in the NFL because they can't use the same Comando tactics, and scare teh hell out of Veterans. Well, obvously, Spurrier's success isn't premised on a Coughlin-esqe approach, the vets seem to love him. It's never an issue for a coach to demand all of his players to show up and work in the off-season, but allow the true veteran stars the slack they need to stay happy and productive. But I think Spurrier will easily find his way ... and he doesn't mind being so direct and saying "Big Daddy can get away with it ... but you can't". Still, I don't want to get to happy about this. It's nice that Spurrier can accomdate the occasional Big Daddy & Bruce Smith who like to do it on their own ... but for the most part, I'd prefer to have veterans like Coleman, Lavar, Jansen, and Trotter leading the charge in the weight room & demanding full participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Sway Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Man, this guy is so savvy about how to repair bridges deemed burned beyond repair. He came out hard against Big Daddy, but is not so vain as to have a pathological need to always be right. Being man enough to say "I stand corrected" with one player while indirectly alluding to another (Pat Ramsey) goes a long way to show that he's not nearly the egomaniac people think he is. How many other coaches in the NFL would take such a step, and deftly defuse two problems with one quote? I love this dude. HTTR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 I always thought that Marty was so freakin' dumb about the voluntary workouts. Let's be serious here: if Lavar or Champ decide not to show up for offseason workouts, they're not getting cut. Period. With marginal players, you can say, "Hey, show up and work your butt off, and it will help you make the team." With stars, the best you can do is say, "Show up, outwork everyone else, be a leader, make the Pro Bowl." They've got to be internally motivated. If they act like Big Daddy, you should be honest and admit that there's not much you can do about it. Shoot, Gardener could have made $200K just to work out in the offseason with the Dolphins, and he couldn't be bothered. But who really cares? If a veteran like Bruce Smith says he doesn't need training camp, and HE PROVES IT ON THE FIELD (which he has), then take his word for it. If a mid-round draft pick who really needs the conditioning and the coaching tries that, you cut him. Life isn't fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 If Marty was here this year, Big Daddy would be gone. It's sad, but it's the truth. :shootinth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Having a double standard is not hypocritical if there are valid reasons for the double standard. Its pretending you don't have a double standard that's hypocritical. Spurrier isn't much for pretending he's something he ain't. Of course, Marty was no hypocrite either about how he treated players. He just did it the hard way, one standard for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Wilkinson might luck into a few of those "blind" sacks where the QB runs right into him fleeing for his life from Arrington & Co.. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Blind sacks? Dan Wilkenson had 7.5 and 8 sacks his first two seasons here, when he saw more single blocking because of Dana Stubblefield's presence. Ray Rhodes unexlicably took Wilkenson out of the game on passing downs. Still can't figure that one out, because Big Daddy has been far and away the best interior pass rusher here for years. After playing at about 315lbs or so most of his career, Wilkenson has carried more weight the past couple of seasons. It might have something to do with the constant double teaming he has seen recently. But even at the weight he's playing at, now, he's amazingly quick off the snap, and he has very good closing speed when rushing the passer. Who care's if he doesn't win any wind sprints. That's not what he's asked to do during games. Look, Big Daddy has never lived up to his hype coming out of Ohio State. But he's been very good since coming here. He's got the underachieving tag slapped on him because he can be one of the best, if not the best DT in the league. And he has been dominating at times. Just not consistantly. But you shouldn't underestimate his value. It should be very interesting to see Wilkenson teamed up with Gardener. If teams choose to double team Gardener, Big Daddy could have a double-digit sack season. And the same in reverse. These are two, big, powerful, and agile men that will make you pay for single blocking. I will dare to say that this is probably the most talented pair of defensive tackles the Skins have had since I've been watching in the 70's. Talking strictly talent-wise, now. Both are on the underachieving side, however. But even if they loaf, they are very good. Gardener formed one of the very best DT teams in the league with Tim Bowens. They helped Zach Thomas become an All-Pro, and they were virtually un-runnable on. Dan Wilkenson is much more talented than Bowens. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted August 10, 2002 Share Posted August 10, 2002 Smootylicious, Hear Here!! Couldn't have said it better myself!! THE BIG point here is NOT if Big Daddy is winning wind sprints or how many sacks he has but rather the fact that SS is/was willing to admit that maybe he doesn't know EVERYTHING. The more I hear about and from the guy, the more I like him. I never really understood the rap against him. Hey, I'm from MD. My teams are the Terps, the Skins and was the Senators. I had to jump ship and root for the Os after the Seantors left. Ya just gotta root for the home team! But as a football fan, I, of course, would have an opinion about the big college teams. In the contests between Florida State vs Florida, I went with the Seminoles. Yes, basically cuz they were indians too!! But whenever I heard SS talk or watched his team play, I was impressed. Kinda like the old Giants teams of LT, Sims and Bavaro. Yes they were the enemy but I could still respect them - unlike the Cowboys OF COURSE! Bottomline: I never disliked the guy. I never thought of him as arrogant but rather CONFIDENT and successfull in competition - kinda like #28 said last night! But now that I've had the opportunity to learn more about him, I am TOTALLY impressed! Gotta give Snyder credit! He knew the deal and had the cajones (and the cash) to make it happen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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