TheDiplomat Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I usually don't piss and moan on Extremeskins, but my friends are tired of me b*itching to them so I'll let it out on here and see what fellow skin fans think. It seems to me that we have talented playmakers ALL OVER the field. The only facet of our team lacking "play-makers" is our D-line, although Griffin is all pro and we contain runs up the middle fairly well. Looking at our offensive players and weapons, I don't understand how we couldn't put up "any" points against the Giants. It seems as though, although better than last year, our offense is quite predictable. Our passing plays consist of screens, 5 and 10 yard out routes, and hook routes. We Never see crossing patterns over the middle of the field. NEVER. And there is no way you can tell me that we aren't capable of running these plays. And then our running game. Wow. We seem to run on every first down. Teams seem to anicipate this. I know it's Gibbs' style to keep dang near everyone in on running plays, but there are other plays to run than the counter trey. We should try to run more sweeps and let Portis pick his wholes, rather than forcing him through one. Goaline offense has been effective so far. But if I notice that we run on first, run on second, and then bootleg to the left every third down, I'm sure some D-coordinators are taking notice too. This soon wont be effective either. Well that is all. Interject with any reactions or responses. I would love to hear them. HTTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akorn22 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 How does the 2nd rank offense gets no points against the 31st ranked pass D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 How does the 2nd rank offense gets no points against the 31st ranked pass D by turnovers and dropped passes. There is no o0ne area of fault or one person... it was a team wide lack of execution, on both sides of the ball. period. This game has no real indication of how good or bad either team really is, just one of those game when one team can do no wrong, and the other team can do no right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 For starters, every time a drive was about to gain some momentum, somebody dropped a pass or turned the ball over. I mean, one in particular that stands out was the brilliant job by Brunell to scramble and get out of pressure, throw a perfect laser on the run to Patten, who dropped it. Now, who knows if anything would have come from that, but we'll never know. We never gave ourselves a chance to get going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvan1 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 dropped balls and turnovers.... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO GO SKINS Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Penalties by Samuels, you can almost count on them every week. We do need a more extensive playbook, not the conservative stuff that did not get us a point today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjKam1 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 team-wide failure today. Our o-line needs to give Brunell some time, he tried to look down field but I'm sure the recievers didn't finish their routes. We need a possesion wide reciever for quick inside slants when teams bring the blitz for a quick check off. Also our wide-reciever screen has been pretty effective with Moss, but today the Giants game-planned it perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I usually don't piss and moan on Extremeskins, but my friends are tired of me b*itching to them so I'll let it out on here and see what fellow skin fans think. It seems to me that we have talented playmakers ALL OVER the field. The only facet of our team lacking "play-makers" is our D-line, although Griffin is all pro and we contain runs up the middle fairly well. Looking at our offensive players and weapons, I don't understand how we couldn't put up "any" points against the Giants. It seems as though, although better than last year, our offense is quite predictable. Our passing plays consist of screens, 5 and 10 yard out routes, and hook routes. We Never see crossing patterns over the middle of the field. NEVER. And there is no way you can tell me that we aren't capable of running these plays. And then our running game. Wow. We seem to run on every first down. Teams seem to anicipate this. I know it's Gibbs' style to keep dang near everyone in on running plays, but there are other plays to run than the counter trey. We should try to run more sweeps and let Portis pick his wholes, rather than forcing him through one. Goaline offense has been effective so far. But if I notice that we run on first, run on second, and then bootleg to the left every third down, I'm sure some D-coordinators are taking notice too. This soon wont be effective either. Well that is all. Interject with any reactions or responses. I would love to hear them. HTTR. Attn: Diplomat, The following response isn't directed at you personally. It's a culmination of a bunch of things I've seen on this board since the game. I think it's cool that you don't usually piss n moan. Some is normal, a lot is not attractive to anyone :laugh: . Sigh. Were some of you guys alive last week? There was article after article, talking head after talking head, analyst after analyst, who used the niner game as the capper to our previous games, starting from the last 5 minutes in Dallas, to proclaim how varied, balanced, complex, and effective our offense had become game by game, even in our two losses. Did they overstate it? Sure feels like it after today, but we have run all kinds of offensive plays for crissakes. And with a little success, even before SF from what I remember. Especially when compared to last year. Remember our offense last year? Golly, outside of today, it seems like we made considerable progress from then. Sort of like we all hoped we'd see signs of by now. I think I saw signs. I know some other people who think they've seen signs. Whew, had to reassure myself. The above quoted listing of what our offense runs didn't begin to cover the formations, routes, schemes, options, and variety of things we've done until today. Today we blew. That's the whole story. It happens sometimes. It should be unacceptable but in the real world it can happen to almost anyone. We blew even worse than other teams who have also have blown recently. But then maybe not, if you believe that we're just no good (like many posters are acting today) and Philly, Giants, NE, Bengals, Denver, Steelers, etc. are more the real deal. In that case then, I guess it evens out to where they've blown REALLY bad too in some games in recent history. Wowsie, imagine that. Hey, I know ! How about waiting a few weeks for further horrible blow-outs and THEN deciding that our top players (who almost everyone thought were great 24 hours ago, in and out of the media) have become bums who need to be cut, and that we have now magically mutated coaches who devolved from excellent to incompetent, stubborn, blind fools. Ack. Next week will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bullocks Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Lack of stability on both sides of the ball in the trenches. Sorry, your front 4, and your O-Line are not that impressive. Ill give it to you, maybe you guys really did just have an off day, but the way I see it, a better team finally came out and played alot better than you guys. It's the truth. You guys are literally about 2 plays away from being 2-5. I'm giving you my honest oppinion, this team is too weak in the trenches. I like your LB's, your secondary, and your D-C, but your line play will cost you games, offensively and defensively. Someone said it on here, you guys draft too many CB's, not enough DL depth. Your front 4 really isn't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluadan Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 You gotta run the ball, 10 attempts for the entire game and only 4 by Portis just isn't going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bullocks Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 You guys fell behind pretty quick as well. But yeah, you guys didn't stick with the run. I'm not sure what your guys deal was today. I mean, I think you guys are overrated, but not THAT overrated. I think NYG are a better team, however, they arent that much better. This should have been closer. Blame execution and all that, but there is not an excuse in teh world for your guys perfomance today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Our play calling wasn't really the problem, it was the fact that we couldn't execute any of the plays we were told to run correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ænima Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 No scheme or play calling will work without solid fundamentals, and ours were just plain awful today on both sides of the ball. I can't remember a game with so many missed tackles and dropped passes by a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giovani75 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Nah, let it go. It was simply a case of a bad day, plus the fact that some guy died and they had to get as many game balls as possiable to his grandchildren. I'm not worried. In Gibbs we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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