goldenster95 Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 From the Dallas Morning News . . . Quarterback Quincy Carter had a horrible practice Tuesday night as the Cowboys defense threw some aggressive blitzing schemes at him. He failed to hit the hot receiver or find the safety valve on most occasions, and even threw a pass directly into the arms of defensive end Peppi Zellner on one play. Several other times, his passes were errant. How bad did it eventually get? Some fans inside the Alamodome started to boo him. • • • The sequence on one of the 11-on-11 drills: Play 1: Quincy Carter pass intercepted by Peppi Zellner Play 2: Hand off to Emmitt Smith Play 3: Carter completes short pass in left flat to Joey Galloway Play 4: Carter rolls right, has his pass tipped by linebacker Kevin Hardy, incomplete Play 5: Carter throws pass into ground to avoid heavy pressure Play 6: Carter throws ball away with safety Roy Williams in his face Play 7: Pitch right to Smith Play 8: Chad Hutchinson slips while dropping back, throws incomplete Play 9: Hutchinson hits quick pass to James Whalen in right flat Play 10: Smith handoff, runs off right tackle Play 11: Pitch left to Troy Hambrick Play 12: Safety Pat Dennis blitz stops Smith in the backfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Thanks for the report! Bad news about the Cowsh*** is almost as fun as good news about our Skins.:wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyaparanoia Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 The day and play in the life of a freakin Cowboy player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 You don't understand...it's not Quincy's fault. It's because guys like Pepi Zellner are such studs. Of course, if Zellner, Hardy and Williams are looking so good, I wonder about that All-Pro Offensive line we keep hearing about from the Dallas fans. Hmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 I'm sure it's all a fluke. If you guys listened to QCard and co you would know that Carter is bound for the hall of fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Hmmmm.... Big fat offensive linemen in front of him are not blocking very well. Must be complicated blitz schemes the Cowgirls run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 It will be interesting to see how they spin things on HBO tonight. Of course, I'm sure they have to have at least a modicum of positive footage to make a team look good so maybe they'll just focus on the defensive side of the ball. Wouldn't want "America's Team" looking like crap for all to see :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Quincy Carter is the best thing going for the........... Redskins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 uggggh, It's only one day of Camp. As a Rookie, he beat us. I can't laugh right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennState11 Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 QCard seems awfully quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF4L Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 F*ck the Cowboys and their tired $hit. I think we are finally assembling a defensive front to deal with their fatboys. What I want to know is... Who's the babe at the bottom of Bufford's posts? Yowza!!!!! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith22 Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Originally posted by codeorama Quincy Carter is the best thing going for the........... Redskins... I was saying that same thing last year while I was sitting in Fedex watching the game.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith22 Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Originally posted by Bufford uggggh, It's only one day of Camp. As a Rookie, he beat us. I can't laugh right now. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 "I was saying that same thing last year while I was sitting in Fedex watching the game." I would certainly hope so, while you were watching Emmit and Hambrick run.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierskin Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 THE STREAK WILL END! Can you imagine what Quincy is going to do against our linebackers in real game conditions. Victory is so close I can already smell it. The Redskins now have that killer instinct with Spurrier. The sharks are already circling and maybe Spurrier will have another Vanderbilt to beat up on. Dallas will not be our Georgia (Philly will) they will be our Vanderbilt! Spurrier is going to change the NFL forever, just like he revolutionized the SEC! Hail to the Redskins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyskinsfan Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Releasing that kind of info will not reassure me of squat. As stated before, by Bufford, he beat us as a rookie. He actually survived the whole game!!!! The way to beat them is to play to win, not play to protect something that aint there. SOS has the right idea and the onslaught will continue whether we are leading by 3 or 300! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith22 Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Originally posted by Park City Skins "I was saying that same thing last year while I was sitting in Fedex watching the game." I would certainly hope so, while you were watching Emmit and Hambrick run.. Actually, I remember seeing a certain "pro bowl" corner getting smoked, with Quincy completing the pass to win the game. You must not have stuck around long enough to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoDrill Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 After 9 losses to the Cowboys, I'm not going to talk trash about a huge win, only to get disappointed. It's too exhausting. I'll wait and see. That being said, I do think Spurrier understands the nature of rivalry and will take it both personally and seriously. Jimmy Johnson did when he came from Miami. In many ways the Spurrier hiring reminds me of my Ohio State Buckeyes: --we had a painful losing streak against our most hated rival (1-9-1 against Michigan), --we hired a coach from a level below (Jim Tressel from AA Youngstown State) --The new coach was a proven winner and national champion at the lower level, but there were questions as to whether he could handle "the big stage" --The new coach began his tenure by commenting on the rivalry, and all but guaranteeing a victory ("And, most of all, you will be proud of our players ... in Ann Arbor, Mich") --Existing players gained instant respect for the new coach, his ethics, his integrity and his methods. --Potential recruits, who would have passed on the team before, now are eager to sign up and play for a new coach with a new energy (Tressel, after just one year, amassed the consensus second best recruiting class in the country) The result? The Buckeyes won in Ann Arbor for the first time since the late 1980's. They won even starting a freshman with no game experience at QB. They ran all over Michigan, even though it was obvious that they would have to rely on the run. I won't make predictions, but I sense something similar afoot with Spurrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoDrill Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Speaking of the rivalry with the Cowboys ... Norv and Marty just never "got it". Norv succeeded early on against them, mostly using his knowledge of the 'Boys against them. But even then, he was, in a sense. trying to prove to his former employer that he could make it on his own. He could never truly hate the Cowboys. He couldn't make it a life-or-death personal battle. Marty arrived after retiring from the AFC west, where he put his heart and soul into that conference and its rivalries. He never seemed to show humility towards the history and traditions of the NFC East. It seemed like the Redskins were just another team to conform to his "proven" methods, not a venerable institution. Spurrier gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Actually smith, wide awake, all present and accounted for oh that play. Seen it several times since then. Want to know what happened on that play? Read this: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10371&highlight=Champ or this: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10321&perpage=15&display=&highlight=fade%20pattern&pagenumber=3 Better to be lucky than good sometimes huh? About the Oline. As if we haven't discussed this before. Food for thought. (no "so shat's allowed). 3rd ranked Running offense: put up 8 rushing T.D's for the season. ranking 25. Total pts a game: 15.4 dead last. If you want to be the man, beat the man. Dallas played only 4 teams ranked in the top 10 in run defense. Denver #6: Smith 5-17yds Hambrick 4-24 yds San Deigo # 7 Smith 17-85 Hambrick 2-6 N.Y. Giants # 8 Game 1 Hambrick 30-77 Game 2 Smith 22-62 Hambrick 4-16 Wiley 4-15 San Francisco Smith 26 -126 Hambrick 4-6 Record 2-3 Rushing Average 85.8 yds a game. (note, San fran was a good game for Dallas). That average is 30yds less than the season average. Next best team. Tampa Bay # 12 Smith 13-40 Hambrick 1-10 Dallas played 8 games against teams that were ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league in rushing defense. 3-5 against these teams. I wouldn't be hanging my hat on that bit of info if I were a Boys fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcard Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Well, I could produce every training camp report from 4 or 5 different sources that show Quincy Carter is in fact having a very impressive camp and has shown some much progress or I could wait 38 more days for the season to start. Feel free to bash Quincy Carter when he has his first dissapointing offesnsive series on training camp. So far Dallas has had 5 days of training camp with about 20-25 practices and the first blurb of Quincy Carter struggling is news. I guess a couple of more bombs against your ALL-world All- Pro CBs should shut you guys up. 38 more days!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin S. Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Park City Skins: You are very good at extracting stats that fit your purpose but they hold little water. Face it, Dallas' O-line is good - very good. Live with it. Give props where props are due. I wouldn't think of pulling out stats against the linebackers the Skins have. They are awesome, who cares what type of Offenses they are going against? As far as the Denver game you are so fond of bringing up, we fell behind early and that forced us into throwing a lot. Now, Q had a bad practice. So what? Let's see how he progresses. Maybe if Campo gave him what blitzes were coming, SS style, Q would do better.:laugh: And the play Rocket burned Champ was a TD in a game that wrapped things up. I know you would rather see Rocket fake the out and then take it up. I know you would rather see Q do a sommersault while avoiding LaVar and then throw a dart to Rocket (maybe then you would give him props) but that's not football. Quincy threw a strike and it was a touchdown. Champ was burned. He blew the coverage. If he didn't and he picked off the pass then it would be different. That is football. Stop with the excuses and the exhaustive analysis. It only makes you seem petty. Bottomline: both times you lost your "star" players blew it. Davis fumbled in game one and Champ blew the coverage in game 2. Champ is still an awesome corner but what happened, happened. Live with it. That's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 You Cowboy fans really need to get over that one pass when Champ got juked and Carter floated the ball in there. I can remember back in 95 when the Skins were an 18 point underdog and Heath Shuler took the SKins into Dallas and walked out with a W. That sure did wonders for his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin S. Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 But hey, let's give Heath is due. I'm not going to say that it was all luck or didn't count. He won the game. I'm not saying that one pass makes Q's career but you can't try to explain it away. It happened. That's all I'm pointing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 This is a silly topic. One day of camp does not a career make ... any more than one supposed good pass against Champ Bailey. As to our chances against the Cowboys this year, I'm with Bufford. Not saying a word until we actaully beat them for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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