Dweezel Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Are you still going to moan about pulling PR if the skins make it to the playoffs, or at least have a winning record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunellSuperbowl Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Since you're so big on last year...I don't recall Ramsey doing any better vs. the Cowboys during his "magical" late-season run last year...19/29 for 158 yds 1/2 Seems pretty pedestrian to me. Ramsey was just as bad as Brunell. People say he was 3-4. Well he lost the Bengals game since he started the last 3 1/2 quarters. He lost the FIRST Giants game He only won 3 meaningless games. Vs the Giants, Vikings and i do not even remember who else WHAT WAS THE THIRD GAME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Pride is pride...pride goes before a fall, and a haughty spirt before destruction. I didn't say it, Blache did. I don't even know what that's supposed to mean, but it appears you are inventing things and listening only to whatever agrees with you're flawed theories. We'll see. If that's what it is, it seems nobody told LaVar.9 games. Brunell stunk it up for 9 games. Worse than Ramsey has EVER played in a Redskins uniform. Ramsey got one quarter. I just don't buy it. Right...but Ramsey had a different line and different play-calling, right? Lavar said he was ready last year too, so apparently he doesn't know best, huh? Read this slowly, and several times if you need to. YOU saw 3 drives, Gibbs has seen him every day for NINE MONTHS. He threw how many INT's in 5 quarters of the pre-season against defenses that weren't even doing anything exotic, then in 3 drives in his first game, has 3 turnovers. - Gibbs gave him the job, he promised him the chance - he got the chance. Gibbs never promised he'd get the chance to ruin the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 AJSKINS. POOR PATRICK. I HOPE U GO FEED HIM MILK and cookies. I FEEL SO BAD FOR HIM. NOBODY LIKES HIM. Spurrier and Gibbs were out to get him. ALL HE NEEDED WAS A CHANCE TO THROW 5 INTERCEPTIONS A GAME FOR A FULL SEASON. And if he got hurt in the season that doesn ot count. WE HAVE TO WATCH HIM STINK FOR 16 GAMES. YOU KNOW WHY? Because Patrick Ramsey is the only QB in the world that can be a star.With his special talents.Shut the hell up. Nobody gives a damn if Ramsey can throw a hail mary. He was never good on any level. He was never a bluechip prospect. He bearly made it in the first round (only because Snyder liked his arm) He has done nothing in the pros in 4 yrs. He gets beat out by QBs that are not even that good. Im tired of Ramsey fans It is almost like because Ramsey looks like a little innocent boy , his fans try to treat him like he is 16. He is not going to become a superstar. He might win games but what you see is what you get :yawnee: It's about what's best for the team. It's not about Ramsey being spectacular, it's about Brunell being spectacularly bad. As for what this thread is about, which is not the QB situation solely, it's about why Brunell got 9 games and Ramsey only got one quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Ramsey was just as bad as Brunell. People say he was 3-4. Well he lost the Bengals game since he started the last 3 1/2 quarters. He lost the FIRST Giants gameHe only won 3 meaningless games. Vs the Giants, Vikings and i do not even remember who else WHAT WAS THE THIRD GAME? He beat the no-account 49ers with the help of a defensive TD and a bunch of FGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunellSuperbowl Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 :yawnee: It's about what's best for the team. It's not about Ramsey being spectacular, it's about Brunell being spectacularly bad. As for what this thread is about, which is not the QB situation solely, it's about why Brunell got 9 games and Ramsey only got one quarter. Are you part retarded? Ramsey sux. He has never been good his whole career. Gibbs is going on the past to give hope. Of course a QB who is a borderline hall of famer will get more games then a QB who has done nothing in college or the PROS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Or perhaps they just feel that Ramsey and Arrington make too many mistakes. Ramsey with his turnovers and bad decisions, and Arrington with his freelancing. Took the words right out of my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 Read this slowly, and several times if you need to. YOU saw 3 drives, Gibbs has seen him every day for NINE MONTHS. He threw how many INT's in 5 quarters of the pre-season against defenses that weren't even doing anything exotic, then in 3 drives in his first game, has 3 turnovers. - Gibbs gave him the job, he promised him the chance - he got the chance. Gibbs never promised he'd get the chance to ruin the season. Why did Brunell get a chance to ruin the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Shut the hell up. Nobody gives a damn if Ramsey can throw a hail mary. He was never good on any level. He was never a bluechip prospect. He bearly made it in the first round (only because Snyder liked his arm) He has done nothing in the pros in 4 yrs. He gets beat out by QBs that are not even that good. Im tired of Ramsey fans It is almost like because Ramsey looks like a little innocent boy , his fans try to treat him like he is 16. He is not going to become a superstar. He might win games but what you see is what you get Do you get beaten up a lot in real life? Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 :yawnee: It's about what's best for the team. It's not about Ramsey being spectacular, it's about Brunell being spectacularly bad. As for what this thread is about, which is not the QB situation solely, it's about why Brunell got 9 games and Ramsey only got one quarter. Give it up. Gibbs was interviewed yesterday on the NBC News by George Michael. George asked him if he cut Groom based on the one poor kick in the Cowboy game. Gibbs said he NEVER makes those types of decisions based on one play or even one game...they are made on a cumulative basis including practices, games, etc. So, Ramsey did not just get one quarter...both he and Brunell have been continually evaluated since training camp of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Do you get beaten up a lot in real life? Seriously. I know he's on my side of the QB debate but.... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 Are you still going to moan about pulling PR if the skins make it to the playoffs, or at least have a winning record? That's a hypothetical, so I'll give you conjecture. If Brunell plays the way he played against the Bears and Cowboys, I don't think there's any chance we finish over .500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunellSuperbowl Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 He beat the no-account 49ers with the help of a defensive TD and a bunch of FGs. so the 3 games meant nothing . Had no pressure on him. All the teams did not even have playoff positioning when playing Ramsey. And add to that he played most of the Bengals and Giants games. I put 2 more loses on him. He blew both those games by himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 so the 3 games meant nothing . Had no pressure on him. All the teams did not even have playoff positioning when playing Ramsey. And add to that he played most of the Bengals and Giants games. I put 2 more loses on him. He blew both those games by himself Regardless of how you want to rate the way he played last season, it was last season and holds very little merit (good or bad) when it comes to his playing time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunellSuperbowl Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 That's a hypothetical, so I'll give you conjecture. If Brunell plays the way he played against the Bears and Cowboys, I don't think there's any chance we finish over .500. who cares what you think? What you think is pretty worthless. You are on a message board crying over your crush Patrick Ramsey. While Joe Gibbs has won 3 super bowls with 3 different QBS , been to 4 , 5 NFC title games and is in the football hall of fame. BUT U KNOW IT ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 Got to like it when you ask a complex question and the answer you get is: RAMSIE SUX!!! These kids are lying about their age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands11 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I don't think the two situations are necessarily the same. It may appear that way, but with one I think it's play, the other is a guy who whined about being brought back too soon, and now there are some concerns because he did have to have his knee drained and they want to make sure he's 100%.I hope so, at least. Agreed. 2 different situations. Greg Williams said Lavar is in a lot of packages. Its just the way Dallas was playing, he wasnt in the packages used. I believe Williams. Mostly. That being said, we have a couple stud LBs. Marcus is everything we ever hoped LaVar to be only I dont think he makes nearly as much. I hear William ranting about Shawn Taylor all the time. Not so much about LaVar. I totally agree with the coming back to soon. Lavar complained last year that we rushed him and now he wants in earilier. LaVar is cool and all but he is a bit of a whinner. Whats going to finally make him happy ? I think he is still adjusting to his possition on the team. It must be tought to have been the big cheese and now he isnt. Back to early. Not back soon enough. To many coaching changes, then Gibbs comes and he act like a malcontent. Then he was screwed on the contract. As of right now, LaVar has a lot to prove if we are going to keep him for that kind of money. Again, this D is awesome without him. Our weakness is 2 DE and 1 DT that cant get a pass rush. LaVar isnt LT regarding a pass rush. If he could be, then he would make us assume. But as just another good LB, I dont think this team needs 10M worth of another LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Why did Brunell get a chance to ruin the season? Brunell won 3 games last year while hurt, Ramsey won 3 games last year while healthy. How is he that much better? How many turnovers did Ramsey have in the pre-season and in his 3 drives as the starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 who cares what you think? What you think is pretty worthless. You are on a message board crying over your crush Patrick Ramsey. While Joe Gibbs has won 3 super bowls with 3 different QBS , been to 4 , 5 NFC title games and is in the football hall of fame. BUT U KNOW IT ALL How old are you? Seriously. Because you're not 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Brunell won 3 games last year while hurt, Ramsey won 3 games last year while healthy. How is he that much better?How many turnovers did Ramsey have in the pre-season and in his 3 drives as the starter? You can't bring up the preseason around here because apparently those tendencies exhibited in the preseason have no merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunellSuperbowl Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Regardless of how you want to rate the way he played last season, it was last season and holds very little merit (good or bad) when it comes to his playing time this season. he has been worthless since we got him. He was not as good as Tim Hasleback last couple of years. He is the third best QB on the roster now. He only is attractive to teams and fans because he throws the ball hard( but not accurate deep) and is young looking. Other then that he is worthless. Hassleback was a much better QB then him. He was just as young yet did not have all the sack problems and turnover problems. He was a perfect back up. The only thing i blame Gibbs in is giving Ramsey this long of a shot to turn around. He should have been traded a long time ago. Ramsey is going to be along with Coles , Gardner and Mccants as worthless players. All 3 of these guys people cried that Gibbs was not giving them a shot. BLABLA. They still suck on 3 different teams and Gibbs is not coaching them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 You can't bring up the preseason around here because apparently those tendencies exhibited in the preseason have no merit. nor to facts:whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Give it up. Gibbs was interviewed yesterday on the NBC News by George Michael. George asked him if he cut Groom based on the one poor kick in the Cowboy game. Gibbs said he NEVER makes those types of decisions based on one play or even one game...they are made on a cumulative basis including practices, games, etc. So, Ramsey did not just get one quarter...both he and Brunell have been continually evaluated since training camp of last year. AJ, if you're sick of bickering with someone you think is immature...tackle this my above post. You say Ramsey only got 3 drives (one quarter), but Gibbs says the staff is continually evaluating the personnel...any remarks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKiNz Jus 2 sick Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I really don't have that much simpathy for Ramsey because he's too turnover prone and i'm tired of people makin' excuses for him like he's a rookie. I don't care how many coaches he's had, in your 4th year in the NFL you should be better than you were in your 1st. Ramsey still doesn't look like a starting NFL QB IMOAs far as LaVar, I totally agree. If they are tryin' to send some kind of message I hope they're done with that. Because plain and simple, if LA is healthy then he should be on the field, PERIOD! But if it's a matter of the staff thinkin' he'll hurt the D by his freelancing, then put him in and give him a shot to prove he can stay within' the system. I think LaVar is a Redskin at heart and he's played his heart out for us, he deserves a shot. Look at it this way Would you feel comfortable in the pocket if you had a coach who didnt believe in protecting the QB Spurrier tried to run a college O in the NFL and ontop of that he tried to replace Stephen Davis with Trung Canidate so... no O Line No RB who is gonna succeed with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunellSuperbowl Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 How old are you? Seriously. how old are you? You should be with your family, or on eagles message board or something. I am 20 like it shows in my profile. You are a nerd who is spends days and nights crying how Ramsey should be given charity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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