tvo14 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 This will be the first time in a quite a long time that Brunell has had two weeks practice in a row with the first team offense. This can only make the offense better and get him some much needed timing with the new wideouts. Is it me, or is Cooley not getting as many balls thrown his way? We saw also saw Portis being used in the passing game a bit more against Dallas. Why don't they put him in the slot more and use his talents much like Philly does with Westbrook? Hopefulll Musgrave can convince Gibbs to add that West Coast wrinkle to the play book. Can you imagine any linebackers covering Portis one on one is pass coverage? It would be be nice to see more play action on First down too. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I don't think they really went to work until this Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvo14 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 I meant two weeks from Dallas Week and this weeks prep for Seattle. If you include the bye week, then that would've been 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I don't think they really went to work until this Monday. They practiced Wed and Thurs of last week I believe and all this week. Someone should confirm because I might be wrong, but I could have sworn Gibbs said he gave them Fri - Sun off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrentonboy Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I agree with you on the timing thing. Gotta have the reps with the wideouts. It'll take longer than a couple of weeks to get it down, though. But it's a start! Cooley was Ramsey's go to guy. I think he needs to be Brunnell's guy as well. They kinda run him from the slot, but he is in motion most of the time. He'll go in motion and then run his route from the slot. Portis catching passes is definately dangerous to any defense. Getting him in open field is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 This will be the first time in a quite a long time that Brunell has had two weeks practice in a row with the first team offense. This can only make the offense better and get him some much needed timing with the new wideouts. This is a great thought and I'm surprised it's not being discussed more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzRool Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 With all of the success that Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison have had together, I'm suprised that more QB/WR combinations don't duplicate their training. Every day after practice and also before games they will run 10 reps of the basic 9 pass routes (starting with the slant and ending with the fly pattern). Brunell should be doing this with Moss and/or Patten to get their timing is down as well. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASON NEAL Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I Still Am Not A Big Brunell Fan. I Wathched Him Play The Sorriest Eight Games Last Year That I Have Seen A Quarterback Play. I Am Going To Take A Wait And See Stance On Brunell. At Least The Shakey Feet Are Gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Wow, I don't believe I've ever seen anyone use caps to start every word in a sentence -- four sentences running. That takes some serious finger dexterity, Jason! :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nneece Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 This will be the first time in a quite a long time that Brunell has had two weeks practice in a row with the first team offense. This can only make the offense better and get him some much needed timing with the new wideouts. Good, Moss and Patten can learn to slow down to catch Brunell's passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Good, Moss and Patten can learn to slow down to catch Brunell's passes. :laugh: Moss seemed to have to have every last step of speed to get to those two on Monday night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb mul-key Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 This is a great thought and I'm surprised it's not being discussed more. unless MB gets a tired arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 :laugh: Moss seemed to have to have every last step of speed to get to those two on Monday night... I agree. The first TD pass was a 45 yarder but if look at the replay Brunell lauched it from the Skins 45 and hit Moss perfectly in stride 5 yards deep in the endzone. If I can add that means the ball traveled 60 yards in the air. Brunell simply was not capable of that last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvo14 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 Lets not forget he was hurt most of last year also. I'm not making excuses but if you can't step into a pass then you will have no zip on the ball. His hamstring really hurt him last year. Much of his game throughout his career has been the ability to move around in the pocket. Something Patrick Ramsey will never learn. Look at Plummer on Monday night, when he is moving around in the pocket with bootlegs and rolling pockets he can be dangerous. The same can be said of Brunell to lesser extent and give the offense more looks to throw at opposing D's. Lets hope that Brunell can show some consistent play. 18-25 200yds and no picks is all we need to be successful with our Defense and Running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Excellent point about getting more production out of Portis TVO. I have been saying this for some time except I compared it to how the Lambs use(d) Marshall Faulk. Either way, Portis creates an incredible matchup problem for any LB and most safeties. It is pretty sad that we don't do more to get him the ball in space. It would create more opportunities both for him and the receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afkidd Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 putting portis in the slot leaves the backfield open to blitzes, which our line can't pick up on too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I do think Cooley should be getting more looks than he is... When he began to come into his own last year it was with Ramsey, I think Brunell has to develop that same conneciton with him, and being the kind of passer Brunell is, I think they will probably complement each other very well. As for Portis in the slot, I dont think he is a good enough receiver to do that. He's ok catching a few passes out of the backfield but his hands arent as good as say, Westbrooks. That and on alot of plays we need him to block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 This will be the first time in a quite a long time that Brunell has had two weeks practice in a row with the first team offense. This can only make the offense better and get him some much needed timing with the new wideouts.Is it me, or is Cooley not getting as many balls thrown his way? We saw also saw Portis being used in the passing game a bit more against Dallas. Why don't they put him in the slot more and use his talents much like Philly does with Westbrook? Hopefulll Musgrave can convince Gibbs to add that West Coast wrinkle to the play book. Can you imagine any linebackers covering Portis one on one is pass coverage? It would be be nice to see more play action on First down too. :dallasuck Cooley is on pace to get 40 receptions this year and the bulk of those receptions come from Brunell. Cooley not getting into his pattern soon enough (I think he ended up having to block longer than planned) was the primary reason Dallas was able to make a play on the first quarter missed TD to Moss. Cooley's skinny post was the action that set up our first TD. Also, Cooley's specialties last year were red-zone and short-yardage. If Brunell can make DB (especially the FS) respect his arm, Cooley will have a field day running skinny posts into that area since the FS will have the choice between taking that away or helping the CB when Moss burns by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I posted about moving Portis into the slot sometimes during the summer. I've hear that Portis is not adverse to this. We can keep the run threat by keeping in Betts as a RB, go empty backfield (I'd love to see what Portis could do with a WR screen) or keep a run threat using Cooley. With Betts and Portis (maybe Nemo or Rock are capable here), we can also action a dive with a toss outside (or the opposite, if needed) so they need to go with a form and personnel that can deal with a power play while we can break into a 3, even 4 wide set with the same people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmic Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 i still dont think we use portis the right way ie...faulk,westbrook,LT,holmes and aman green....(sweeps-screens-off tackle-slot reciever-motion wide-reverses-spread delays) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FS36 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 i still dont think we use portis the right way ie...faulk,westbrook,LT,holmes and aman green....(sweeps-screens-off tackle-slot reciever-motion wide-reverses-spread delays) I agree. LT was more effective as a running back when he was receiving also. LT doesn't line up in the slot, but gets the ball in the backfield or on short patterns designed out of the backfield. If you have someone on the team who can make a defense look silly, you need to get the ball in their hands as much as possible. If opposing team defenses have to worry about Portis running the ball, going on a screen, or a short hook pattern down the middle all coming out of the backfield, that would make the defense less willing to all out blitz Brunell. But I'm sure Gibbs has considered all this and weighed the pros and cons, he just needs to give it more of a chance. Just take the Cowgirls game. Portis has trouble getting the run going, but he averaged 6.3 yds per catch out of the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openallnight Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Not only will the added week help Brunell's timing but, I'm really looking forward to some revised game planning to cater to Brunell's strengths. 1. Look for more roll-outs especially to the left side. I think all the designed roll-outs against Dallas went right. - Brunell is MUCH more accurate especially in the midrange, 15-30 yard passes, when on the move. - Brunell is short and sees the field much better outside the tackle box. 2. Look for more play-action boots to take advantage of the defenses overreacting to Portis. This could be a key weapon especially down in the red-zone. I also like what people are saying about getting Portis out in the slot. I was calling for this all off-season as well. Imagine, Patten and Moss split wide. Jacobs or Thrash in the slot. Cooley at TE and motion Portis out wide like another slot. Again, Gibbs doesn't like leaving his QB exposed but, this is a formation we can run with a sprint out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangee7 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 good thoughts...we gotta quit playing scared... some risks are worth taking. Joe will get it all sorted out. Keep the Faith! HTTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matador36 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 i still dont think we use portis the right way ie...faulk,westbrook,LT,holmes and aman green....(sweeps-screens-off tackle-slot reciever-motion wide-reverses-spread delays) Gibbs said he watched the first half of the chargers game. Hopefully we use Cooley more like Gates and CP more like LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Since we're speculating... The Brunell roll-outs aren't effective because he's no threat to run and his tendency is to toss a short touch pass into a predictable area. Basically, the safety knows where to go as soon as Mark takes off. Portis is a shaky receiver. Look for Ladell Betts on swing passes West Coast style (which can also be run from the shotgun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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