Art Monk Fan Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Funny, I don't remember hearing you call for firings when BS was being reported by the AP on the slow Federal response to Katrina or any number of other articles. But let them say something bad about a leftist loon and it's the gallows :doh: Don't worry, I'm sure the opening paragraph will be changed soon Small problem Sarge, the AP didn't say anything "bad" about Sheehan, they just told the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie4redskins Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Why should she be fired? Sounds pretty accurate to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Just wait until you lose a loved one in a war you didn't agree with and then we'll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 In answer, let me say this: I have no problem with her opposition to the war. I disagree, but I fully support her right to protest this war, including her position as a leader of the proteset and the march on Washington this weekend. I think she's wrong and that she is horribly short-sighted in her thinking, but she's totally entitled to be as wrong as she wants, as loudly as she wants, for as long as she wants, provided she breaks no laws in the process.What I have a major problem with is the way she has used her son's sacrifice to further her politcal goals. He did indeed volunteer for the armed services. He also reinlisted just prior to his death and volunteered for the mission on which he was killed. From all accounts I have read, her son supported this war and died for his convictions. What she has done dishonors his sacrifice and disrespects what he has given for our nation. The AP lede is the most completely honest bit of reporting I've read in a long while, so it's probably a mistake. :doh: You might be right but lets not forget that she knew her son better than me, you or anybody in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiroguy1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'll like to ask some people on this board something. How would any of you feel if you lost a child or spouse in a war you didn't agree with? And I don't want to hear the standard copout "they join the military to serve there country and they knew this going in". I applaud what she's doing. I'd feel about the same and react about the same as Cindy Sheehan... but every soldier should expect that this can ultimately happen to them if they're deployed. If they don't have that level of commitment, giving their life for their country and its policies then they shouldn't serve the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Monk Fan Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You might be right but lets not forget that she knew her son better than me, you or anybody in the media. The boy's father left her over this, and I think her son's actions speak volumes -- he reinlisted and volunteered for the mission on which he died. I'll take his actions over her words everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Still don't believe it. Satisfied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 So basically you won't accept any answer other than ones you find agreeable or jibe with your own?Par for the course, I guess. At least you're embarassingly consistent. And that's not what many of you do? I know a lot of posters here who never get on a topic where they know they're in the minority. Remember this, it's easy to take a stand when you have plenty of backup, but a real man should be able to stand by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiroguy1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 why does everyone hate sheehan? she's not a terrorist last time i checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 And that's not what many of you do? I know a lot of posters here who never get on a topic where they know they're in the minority. Remember this, it's easy to take a stand when you have plenty of backup, but a real man should be able to stand by himself. nobody is questioning your resolve or your guts, thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Monk Fan Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 why does everyone hate sheehan? she's not a terrorist last time i checked. I don't hate her, I just think she has no honor. Whether she agreed with him or not, her son died for his convictions and now she invokes his name (Camp Casey, etc) to fight against the cause for which he gave his life. Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't hate her, I just think she has no honor. Whether she agreed with him or not, her son died for his convictions and now she invokes his name (Camp Casey, etc) to fight against the cause for which he gave his life. Classy. Yeah, and it's great to see that the right-wingers of the world aren't stooping to her level. Some of you people disgust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I see the liberal's yip yappin chihuahua found another way to get noticed. I wonder if Hubby used her anti american agenda as grounds for divorce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiroguy1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't hate her, I just think she has no honor. Whether she agreed with him or not, her son died for his convictions and now she invokes his name (Camp Casey, etc) to fight against the cause for which he gave his life. Classy. i get what you're saying.... probably not a classy thing to do with your mindset, but heroic to others depending on your ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiroguy1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I see the liberal's yip yappin chihuahua found another way to get noticed.I wonder if Hubby used her anti american agenda as grounds for divorce? come on, do you really think that everyone that doesn't support a war is unamerican. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I dont see right wingers siding with terrorists making anti semitic statements and spewing blatant lies about this nation and president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiroguy1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I dont see right wingers siding with terrorists making anti semitic statements and spewing blatant lies about this nation and president. you must not watch foxnews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I dont see right wingers siding with terrorists making anti semitic statements and spewing blatant lies about this nation and president.I saw them attack Clinton for "wagging the dog" when he tried to do anything because it was much more vital to the country that we continue to drone on endlessly about his sexual habits. So if you don't see it you're just blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Monk Fan Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 i get what you're saying....probably not a classy thing to do with your mindset, but heroic to others depending on your ideology. I think you're missing my point,so I'll give it one more try: Standing up for what she believes in is heroic in my view, even if I think she's totally wrong. She can and should protest as much as she wants. What lacks honor (and class) is using her son's name and his death while she does this. Losing her son may have been the motivation behind her activism, again I have no problem, but using his name (Camp Casey) and using her identity as the mother of a slain soldier to get extra credibility is just plain wrong. She dishonors her son in doing so and I don't think it has anything to do with my mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Monk Fan Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I dont see right wingers siding with terrorists making anti semitic statements and spewing blatant lies about this nation and president. Antisemitism is now acceptable provided the Jews you are deriding either live in Isreal or work for the current administration. The appropriate code words are: "Occupier" and "Neo-Con." Didn't you get the memo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiroguy1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think you're missing my point,so I'll give it one more try:Standing up for what she believes in is heroic in my view, even if I think she's totally wrong. She can and should protest as much as she wants. What lacks honor (and class) is using her son's name and his death while she does this. Losing her son may have been the motivation behind her activism, again I have no problem, but using his name (Camp Casey) and using her identity as the mother of a slain soldier to get extra credibility is just plain wrong. She dishonors her son in doing so and I don't think it has anything to do with my mindset. No, I got your point completely. You weren't unclear at all from your first post but my point that others that don't necessarily buy into your ideology and actually believe that she's heroic and pure class went sailing over your head. I might not necessarily agree with her and the method of her activism but at least I have the iq to understand that they're other opinions besides my own. **horray for run on sentences!** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 If her son could come back, do you think he would support her? Or tell her to shut the he!! up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiroguy1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 If her son could come back, do you think he would support her? Or tell her to shut the he!! up? ...and what if the easter bunny and santa claus were here? What would they tell her? We can play that game all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 No more obscure than the "what if it was your kid" scenarios being bantered about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 If her son could come back, do you think he would support her? Or tell her to shut the he!! up? He'll probably say: "I love you mom". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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