Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/WWHI/2005/wwhi2011.htm Redskins QB Patrick Ramsey officially became the first quarterback benched in the 2005 season, being replaced roughly 20 minutes into the team’s 9-7 Week One win over Chicago because of an injury, but later finding out that head coach Joe Gibbs would make him a healthy scratch in Week Two. Gibbs decided to stick with Mark Brunell, who replaced Ramsey against the Bears, even though Ramsey’s neck injury was no longer a factor. This move almost certainly signals the end of Ramsey’s time in Washington, whether the end comes before the trade deadline or after the season. League sources say the Redskins probably wouldn’t be able to get fair market value for Ramsey through a trade this season. But some question what Ramsey’s value really is. One NFL official, whose team is in the market for a quarterback, told PFW his club has no interest in the fourth-year QB’s services. “He’s a quitter,” the official said. Ramsey’s proclamation last week — “I’m still a Redskin” — appeared to be more a statement of current fact rather than an indication he’d like to stick with the team. “What’s said between (Gibbs) and I, it’s between us,” Ramsey said. “I haven’t specifically told Coach I want a trade in any way.” C Casey Rabach, the man snapping the ball, took a diplomatic approach to the change but did say Brunell has the edge in experience. “They are both drop-back QBs. The only difference between the two is that Mark’s got that experience and that confidence in himself,” Rabach told PFW. “The one thing about (Brunell) is that he brings his experience, and I don’t think anything can rattle his cage.” It has been clear since Gibbs returned to Washington that Ramsey was not his guy. First, he signed Brunell to a seven-year, $43 million deal before last season, and then he drafted Auburn’s Jason Campbell with the second of two first-round picks this spring. The clock is now ticking on when Campbell might take over. The thinking in Washington is that an injury to Brunell — which, in some observers’ eyes, is more a matter of “when” than “if” because of Brunell’s age and injury history — would lead to Campbell’s promotion, especially if it occurs after the Redskins have dropped from contention. It’s too early to call any team out of the playoff race, though, so there’s speculation that Ramsey could replace Brunell if an injury were to happen in the next, say, three weeks (the Redskins are on bye this week). An interesting quirk of the Redskins’ schedule, however: The team finishes the season with the final three games against the Cowboys, Giants and Eagles. Would having three divisional opponents to end the year make the Redskins more likely to familiarize their young QB with future foes with an eye on next season? Or would having half of the Redskins’ NFC East schedule, with a possible playoff berth hanging in the balance, prevent Gibbs from pulling the cord on Brunell in favor of Campbell? We should have some answers very soon after the bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 quitter how? ramsey maybe a lot of things, but i don't think being a quitter is one of them. he's had plenty of chances to bow out and quit under spurrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Remember, this is coming from PFW. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 "Quitter" is kinda harsh and not fair at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 This kid took lick after lick. A low sense of confidence and quitting are two different things. How many times have we seen Ramsey squinting on the ground in pain only to get back up and take the next snap? How disrespectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Sonny J. said it best last night... The kid has to be better, and ****ing about getting demoted isn't gonna make that happen. I have stayed away from most of the ramsey talk, but a quitter? I don't think you can lay the blame enitrely on him although I do think that he should have thicker skin. If he was half of the player people around here think he is he would have shown it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hey, atleast Ramsey isn't some gutless "official." If this guy who called Ramsey a "quitter" has no interest in Patrick, why doesn't he come out and show some guts and say who he is instead hiding behind being an "official." I'm all for Brunell starting, but there are no quitters on this team and that most certainly includes Ramsey. HTTR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Ramsey is a "quitter" like PFW is an "information source". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I've never seen anything from Ramsey that would lead me to believe he was a quitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Remember, that quote came from an official in another club, not from PFW itself. At least that is how it is being reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Holding on to the ball to long, not making the right read or not making the most accurate throw yes, a quitter no way. Ramsey has worked very hard to improve himself. I think this official is mistaking the professionalism Ramsey displays with the current QB that plays for his team. Anyone shopping for a QB must not have a good QB on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet daddy Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 If your going to call someone quitter...then you should have to name the source....I bet there is no source. If there is one he should be called out because he doesn't know Patrick Ramsey and apparently hasn't been close to the NFL for the last 4 years. PFW made this up! Sources tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Sway Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 That's a load of bull. We all watched him take lick after lick in Spurrier's offense. He never once hung his head, let alone quit. And if Ramsey sucks so bad, why is this tough-talkin' official remaining anonymous? Hmmm? Coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayCee Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Remember, this is coming from PFW. :doh: I think you guys are confusing PFW with PFT. PFW is Pro Football Weekly and they are usually a pretty good news source. Pro Football TALK is an entirely different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Ramsey is not a quitter. Period. I wouldn't be so disgusted with that comment if this "official" had at least come up with some type of explanation for his statement. Yet, since we all know he's never been a quitter, the lack of explanation says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I think what the guy meant by "quitter" was this- Every time Patrick Ramsey's job as the starter goes into question, he wants out. If he DID ask for a trade after his most recent benching, then I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Ramsey "was" famous for his heart, until people suddenly turned on him.. I've seem him accused of all sorts of behavior that isn't true.. Weak armed, stupid, arrogant, whiney. Now this.. ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Ramsey may not deserve to be the 'Skins starter at present, but to call the man a quitter couldn't be further from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbeskin Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I think you guys are confusing PFW with PFT. PFW is Pro Football Weekly and they are usually a pretty good news source. Pro Football TALK is an entirely different story. PFT has it's moments, but recently they have been pretty accurate and actually do get scoops on stories. Lenny P hates them and they hate lenny p too, so could they be considered allies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegademrnate23 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Ramsey is not a quitter. Period. I wouldn't be so disgusted with that comment if this "official" had at least come up with some type of explanation for his statement. Yet, since we all know he's never been a quitter, the lack of explanation says it all. I agree, how can this jackoff write an article like that and not qualify what was meant? When did he quit? I was not aware that Patrick walked off the field and gave the starting job to Mark....my bad, thanks for clearing that up Mr. NFL "official". :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Dave Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Kerry Collins is a quiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 especially if it occurs after the Redskins have dropped from contention. This is all I needed to read to know that this is a bunch :pooh: from the PFW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 That rag should be called amateur football weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nneece Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 WTF? Ramsey is anything but a quitter. As far as his reaction to being benched, I think it is a fair one. Sh*t affectively this is the 2nd time he has lost his starting job under Gibbs, and after 2 quarters of football? I mean come on... What's he supposed to say? This is great, this is exactly what I want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitejimmy Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 <sarcasm> Great article </sarcasm>. It calls Ramsey a quitter by using an unspecified source, and provides absolutely no rationale for the statement. That makes no sense at all, just like the following. I'd like to take this post as an oppurtunity to call Patrick Ramsey a Carpet Salesman and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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