Dirk Diggler Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Looks to me like a tipped pass and three false start penalities didn't hurt the redskins field goal team from beating the rookie QB. False starts are self-induced. They are not tough breaks or bad bounces. Meanwhile, the Skins were getting the shaft on every judgement call possible in the first half. See the difference? Not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBlog Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Um, ok. What is your point? That the Bears were the only team to make mistakes in this game? Try to be more than a troll. Perhaps use your own words. Or did you not see the game? No, my point is and has always been that the bears probably should have won that game. You posted a bunch of stats pointing out the redskins dominance and the fact that the bears only got into the red zone once. I just simply showed you that the bears missed three opportunities to kick a field goal and be 1-0 this week. If the rookie was in his 2nd NFL game, they probably would have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Orton, starting because of an injury to Rex Grossman, appeared calm in the pocket and made a few clutch throws, but his last three drives ended badly. A poor throw was deflected and intercepted by Lemar Marshall in the end zone, then came the drive with all the false starts, and then he lost a fumble when he was stripped of the ball by Cornelius Griffin with less than two minutes to play. He completed 15 of 28 passes for 141 yards. "The interception was a big play, but I still thought he did good for his first time out," Chicago coach Lovie Smith said. "We have to do some other things better around him. Even with all that, I thought we were in great shape in the fourth quarter. We were in position to at least be able to get a field goal -- and the three penalties really knocked us out of it." Maybe the mods realize I have contributed more actual football knowledge than some of self proclaimed troll hunters on this board. (you) Looks to me you do a good job of copy and pasting. Have an original idea of your own or this it? Aside from agreeing with what you may have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Our offense has been the reason why no one believes we have a chance. The media ignores the fact that with our defense, we have a good chance to win every game the Skins play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBlog Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 False starts are self-induced. They are not tough breaks or bad bounces. Meanwhile, the Skins were getting the shaft on every judgement call possible in the first half. See the difference? Not likely. Thats my point exactly. This skins d had nothign to do with it, just lucky they didn't give up 21 points or more to a rooke qb playing on the 31st ranked team in the nfl. Not exactly dominant defense. To be honest, Redskins probably have the 3rd best defense in the NFC east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Our offense has been the reason why no one believes we have a chance. The media ignores the fact that with our defense, we have a good chance to win every game the Skins play. Exactly, but don't tell that to our resident spammer troll. :dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBlog Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Looks to me you do a good job of copy and pasting. Have an original idea of your own or this it? Aside from agreeing with what you may have read. You idiot, I had to copy and paste becuase I already personally wrote the fact that the redskins intercepted a ball in the end zone and nobody believed me until copied and pasted another article. How would you have me do it next time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 With any matchup with the Redskins I love the possibilities and often fear the realities. With our play at QB it is difficult to be confident in our team's ability to win any game. An advantage we have in this matchup with the Cowboys is we drastically improved the football team we have as compared to any point last year in terms of personnel and fit, while maintaining great consistency (19 guys starting who were starters at some point a year ago).The matchups are intriguing given the Cowboys got bigger at the corner and we got smaller at the receiver either they will dominate us and swallow our small guys up or we will use quickness to exploit them. Our defense is the only true dominating unit on the field in this game, but, it all boils down to our QB play. Brunell has to have a good game or we'll lose. If he does play well the Cowboys will get beat here. Turnovers are the key IMO. Everyone knows the Skins have a great D.. but they will have to be Ravens good on Mon. night for the Skins to win. By this, I mean the D will have to create turnovers and help the offense with short fields/and or score. This is the great nuetralizer/momentum shifter. If Dallas does not turn the ball over I really think this could be a long night for the Skins. Dallas will be anxious to prove that their D is in the same league with Wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBlog Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Exactly, but don't tell that to our resident spammer troll.:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck:dallasuck I have actually presented a pretty good case as to why the redskins defense is not that good. As of yet, I haven't been refuted. Just called names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Thats my point exactly. This skins d had nothign to do with it, just lucky they didn't give up 21 points or more to a rooke qb playing on the 31st ranked team in the nfl. Not exactly dominant defense. To be honest, Redskins probably have the 3rd best defense in the NFC east. So your a crack smoking spammer troll? We're learning more and more about you every post. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 No, my point is and has always been that the bears probably should have won that game. You posted a bunch of stats pointing out the redskins dominance and the fact that the bears only got into the red zone once. I just simply showed you that the bears missed three opportunities to kick a field goal and be 1-0 this week. If the rookie was in his 2nd NFL game, they probably would have won. Ok dude. You win. You've proven that you are beyond help. The closest the Bears ever got was the 34 before they started going backwords. If that's 3 chances at a field goal, I'm not sure what planet you are from. I can't believe I even entertained this this long. Thanks for coming out :thumbsup: And thanks for being a complete waste of cyberspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBlog Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Ok dude. You win. You've proven that you are beyond help. The closest the Bears ever got was the 34 before they started going backwords. If that's 3 chances at a field goal, I'm not sure what planet you are from.I can't believe I even entertained this this long. Thanks for coming out :thumbsup: And thanks for being a complete waste of cyberspace. Dont leave just because you have been proven wrong. What yard line were the Bears on when that tipped pass was intercepted in the end zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Yes, the media and fans are definately taking the Redskins game for granted. "To be honest, Redskins probably have the 3rd best defense in the NFC east" I believe the stats show we are number 1..........in the league!!!!! We finished number 1 in the NFC East last year. Until such time another team actually posts a higher ranked defense, the Skins defense is the undisputed top ranked defense in the NFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I think it has a lot to do with everyone else in the country besides the members of this board realizing how horrible the bears are with their 16-year-old rookie qb that should have beat the redskins last week. why? the touchdown came from a kick returner fumbling a ball and it be returned to like the 10 yard line. It should of ended 9 to 0... By the way the kick returner got released earlier this week thank god, he sucked all preseason dropping bombs from ramsey and his KR numbers arnt that great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Yes, the media and fans are definately taking the Redskins game for granted. "To be honest, Redskins probably have the 3rd best defense in the NFC east" I believe the stats show we are number 1..........in the league!!!!! We finished number 1 in the NFC East last year. Until such time another team actually posts a higher ranked defense, the Skins defense is the undisputed top ranked defense in the NFC East. Cowboyblog is pretty high right now so he won't see that fact. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 You idiot, I had to copy and paste becuase I already personally wrote the fact that the redskins intercepted a ball in the end zone and nobody believed me until copied and pasted another article. How would you have me do it next time? Thanks for making it easy. That's 10 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Dont leave just because you have been proven wrong. What yard line were the Bears on when that tipped pass was intercepted in the end zone? Everyone is right about you, you are a complete moron, one thumb up your ass, and you use the other hand to copy pointless articles to try and claim a weak defense. I'm very suprised you haven't been banned yet, maybe the mods find it amusing that you're so incompetent. So just keep posting your trash, because it'll get blasted EVERY SINGLE TIME. :finger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 It could have gone either way. Same as the Dallas game. I think the skins got an INT in the end zone, if I remember correctly. Now that's your first quote. Not one person came up saying that was bs. Not one. Thats my point exactly. This skins d had nothign to do with it, just lucky they didn't give up 21 points or more to a rooke qb playing on the 31st ranked team in the nfl. Not exactly dominant defense. To be honest, Redskins probably have the 3rd best defense in the NFC east. To use your highly original way of debating, let somebody else do the arguing. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20050911_CHI@WAS "I guess they know we're a blitzing team," Washington linebacker Marcus Washington said with a smile as he recounted the sequence. "A couple of times we're looking like we're going to come, with one foot up and eyes big. Those guys, they kind of panic a little bit, and they say, 'This Washington defense is coming.' Whatever it was, we were glad we were able to back them up a little bit." Now you were saying something about the Redskins D not having anything to do with the penaltys? You idiot, I had to copy and paste becuase I already personally wrote the fact that the redskins intercepted a ball in the end zone and nobody believed me until copied and pasted another article. How would you have me do it next time? Actually, all this does is substantiate what I was saying. You saw something written, formed an opinion based on that, and when that "opinion' was perceived as questioned, you refered to that which you had read. Gee. How original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Thanks for making it easy.That's 10 . lol, damn Art I was just going at him and you took out the trash before I finished my post :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 It's fitting really. I feel like Stockton right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Looks to me like a tipped pass and three false start penalities didn't hurt the redskins field goal team from beating the rookie QB. Like i said before....If Antonio Brown didnt fumble...it would have been a shut out. 2nd, when the bears "cover" corner hugged cooley cuase he was giving him some love or somthing , cooley pushed him off and that was a supposedly pass interferance call. But you know, who gives the **** about the skins? - Referees (who didnt throw the yellow flag after lance briggs close lined patrick ramsey which took him out of the game along with a few crappy calls.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Turnovers are the key IMO. Everyone knows the Skins have a great D.. but they will have to be Ravens good on Mon. night for the Skins to win. By this, I mean the D will have to create turnovers and help the offense with short fields/and or score. This is the great nuetralizer/momentum shifter. If Dallas does not turn the ball over I really think this could be a long night for the Skins. Dallas will be anxious to prove that their D is in the same league with Wash. The game is in Dallas so the advantage certainly tips to your side for that alone. If the game is played relatively cleanly by both teams I don't actually expect we'll have a long night at all. If you take the incomplete snapshot of last year's first game where you guys didn't have a turnover, the game was largely decided by a game-changing call that went your way giving you points early, and a game-changing call that went your way removing points from us late. Things have obviously changed since then, and not necessarily for the better on your end. While you will continue working in new, young players and fitting the pieces together, we have relative roster stability which is an advantage you had a year ago. If Mark Brunell throws for 300 yards, barring surprising calls, it won't matter really how well you play in terms of avoiding turnovers because all things being equal -- meaning a clean game both teams play well in -- the advantage is ours due to a superior, proven defense at this point. Now, this statement ASSUMES Brunell is capable of performing well still. That, I grant, is an open question I don't know the answer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 The game is in Dallas so the advantage certainly tips to your side for that alone. If the game is played relatively cleanly by both teams I don't actually expect we'll have a long night at all. If you take the incomplete snapshot of last year's first game where you guys didn't have a turnover, the game was largely decided by a game-changing call that went your way giving you points early, and a game-changing call that went your way removing points from us late.Things have obviously changed since then, and not necessarily for the better on your end. While you will continue working in new, young players and fitting the pieces together, we have relative roster stability which is an advantage you had a year ago. If Mark Brunell throws for 300 yards, barring surprising calls, it won't matter really how well you play in terms of avoiding turnovers because all things being equal -- meaning a clean game both teams play well in -- the advantage is ours due to a superior, proven defense at this point. Now, this statement ASSUMES Brunell is capable of performing well still. That, I grant, is an open question I don't know the answer to. :applause::applause::notworthy:notworthy :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I have a buddy who happens to be a Cowgirls fan. Poor guy can never obtain "friend" status for that simple reason. We talk friendly trash back and forth but earlier today he mentioned how confident he was in a W for MNF. So confident, indeed, that he placed a 1K bet on his team, giving the points too. Here is to my buddy losing 1K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeKnowsBest Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 This could be our time to shake up the Cowboy loving world if the refs call an even game. :whoknows: Yeah, really. Ain't that the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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