dragon_mikal Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Taylor won't be in coverage often?? you must know something I dont. I see that you still are around giving your P's and Q's...can't way till after monday, you'll be a whisper in the wind, and if you say something, you'll cry like a little fairy about a bad call or something You would know about that, wouldn't you? After all, Redskin fans do it every freakin' week! :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidyee Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 Please go talk Hockey or Curling? Your football posts are really annoying. :doh: Boy, you guys sure pulled out an intelligent one here. Way to contribute to this board, Sunshine! Make sure your Mom renews your internet service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 ...so how do I beat the Redskins.First, if you don't think I don't know where Portis is at all times, then you don't belong in this forum. Clint doesn't get the chance to beat us. We won't get run over! I stunt my 3-4 at you all day to wear down your o-lne if I can. I gotta get to Brunell becasue I'm going to stack the odds against Portis and ask Brunell to try and beat me. Moss gets no daylight. Patten and the rest of the irregulars have to make the plays. I'm going to shriek at my players this entire week to overcome my mental mistakes. I'm going to win the stats war on penalties and turnovers. It's max protection all the way to protect Bledsoe. If he gets hit he's gonna lay the ball on the ground. I have to protect against that. Look for alot of two tightend sets with both Dan Campbell and Jason Witten. Jason Witten has to get open. If he is game planned for the Peerless Price or Patrick Crayton have to be the difference makers. I'm playing for TOP and field position all game because given the stout Skins defence it could come down to a FG. Who's kicker is better mine or yours. My guess is it's going to be a low scoring affair. The difference in this game may actually be a trick play. Bill what are you even worried about..you got Jerry meeting with the game officials tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidyee Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 Redskins by 90. Here's the simple scientific formula I used to figure that out:Parcells' weight (360) divided by Michael Irvin arrests (4) = 90. Actually given your logic, it may be the Cowboys by 14. I figured the record you guys had against the Boys 1-15, spotted you the one and took the fifteen. That gave us 14 points to spare. Any problem with my science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haawhat Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 ...so how do I beat the Redskins.I'm going to shriek at my players this entire week to overcome my mental mistakes. haha maybe parcells, im sorry, i mean you should not commit that many mental mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I'm having a hard time listening to Die Hard Redskins fans in love with Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell. Fact is that Gibbs started the season with a horrible QB that believed was better than brunell. Something has got to be wrong with the logic. Its simple math If Brunell is the savior, then Gibbs is an idiot If Gibbs is a genious, then Brunell is not that good You cant have both Gibbs being a genious and Brunell being a good starting QB. Mature adults with responsibilities have trouble sleeping when they allow themselves to believe in lazy logic such as this. I know which one it is, but I'm not telling. Your logic is so flawed, you are a poster boy for a Cowboys fan. No surprise there. If you've spent any time on this board, you'll know that Redskins fans aren't "in love" with Mark Brunell. He was dreadful last season. But most of us saw Brunell look surprisingly sharp this preseason, in command, making right decisions, protecting the ball, moving well, and throwing sharp and accurate passes. He's healthy this year, unlike last, and who's to say he doesn't have another good year or two left in him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Actually given your logic, it may be the Cowboys by 14. I figured the record you guys had against the Boys 1-15, spotted you the one and took the fifteen. That gave us 14 points to spare.Any problem with my science? Yeah. Here in the States, we call it math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 First off for the 'Boys fans....Can we PLEASE forget the silly notion that Julius Jones is going to run all over the Skins D? I mean we had the #3 Defense last year and the Run Defense was the STRONGER part of the defense, and now we have Daniels & Arrington back to help with it. IMO, if the Cowboys win, it will be because they win the EXACT same way they did last year, and that is, beat the Skins Defense on a few big plays. The first game, it was the big pass attempt that drew the PI call at the beginning of the game that gave the Cowboys the early edge, and the second game was won on a prayer by Vinny to a below average receiver. I am sorry, but the Cowboys are not going to dictate the game or the clock, now that doesn't mean they won't win, because no matter how good a defense is, they always break down on single plays throughout the game. I am not going to deny that the Cowboys O-line didn't improve, but they aren't the line from the Glory Days, and the Skins D-line is a proven run-stoppper, this isn't just an example of me being a homer, our D-line is proven, so until the Cowboys O-line proves the can push an ELITE run stopping D-line around, there is no way you can just assume it is going to happen. To me this game is going to be close, hard fought, and won in the 4th quarter, basically like all of the games between these two teams have been over the past 10 years give or take a game or two. It's going to be a big play or the first big mistake in the 4th quarter that does one of these teams in. Skins 21 'Boys 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidyee Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 Don't ya mean a Jap play?? Dallas' secondary looks as if they were issued concrete shoes they are so slow. Moss and Patten are going to have a field day...if Brunell can get them the ball. Let's keep the "Jap" jokes out of here. I would expect that this forum has an issue with ethnic slurs and I don't want to be a part of it given that I'm Asian. Unless you guys are going to give me license I could come up with ones just as good if not better. Let's call that stuff off. Let's also see if Moss and Patten have what it takes to get open and fight off the bump. Alot of whether Brunell can get them the ball is exactly that. Is your o-line good enough to protect the guy. Monday will reveal all the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.M.F. Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Don't you people have anything better to do? Cowboyblog-sorry, but you lost all credibility with your other thread. You say we don't know football, but say that dallas will win... what was it, 38 - 9? Go ask your "experts" what they think of those numbers and see if they agree. Is Brunall our savior? Depends on how you meen. Will he suddenly throw like manning? No. Can he come in and not turn the ball over, run the offence and let our D give us a chance to win? He just might. Are the cowpies as good as people think after that win on Sun? NO! The chargers were missing their BEST offencive player, and still put up 24 I think it was. The skins can run on you guys, maybe not "all over" but I'd be surprised if Portis didn't get 100. Go talk smack on your own sites where people may even believe what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Let's keep the "Jap" jokes out of here. I would expect that this forum has an issue with ethnic slurs and I don't want to be a part of it given that I'm Asian.Unless you guys are going to give me license I could come up with ones just as good if not better. Let's call that stuff off. QUOTE] We're simply quoting your guy Parcells. How can you be a fan of a coach who uses ethnic slurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarpon75 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Did you watch the game?Henry was in the running for NFL defensive player of the week. by the way, the hardest hitting man in the NFL will not be in coverage that often. Taylor will so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Thinker's deep kharmic prediction: The team that plays the best with the fewest mistakes and the most big plays will win. Everyone is entitled to a prediction just like they are entitled to an opinion which is similar to another thing that everybody has one of. Mine is that the pukes start out with the advantage given their history of recent dominance against us. At the same time the puke defense is still learning the new defense and their oline is getting older and slower. They have a pretty weak link at the RT position. Bledsoe has shown he can follow a great game with a bunch of tds with a miserable game with lost of ints and fumbles. I think this game ends up being decided very late by a slim margin. Who do I think is going to win? That's why we play the games - to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Let's keep the "Jap" jokes out of here. I would expect that this forum has an issue with ethnic slurs and I don't want to be a part of it given that I'm Asian.Unless you guys are going to give me license I could come up with ones just as good if not better. Let's call that stuff off. Let's also see if Moss and Patten have what it takes to get open and fight off the bump. Alot of whether Brunell can get them the ball is exactly that. Is your o-line good enough to protect the guy. Monday will reveal all the answers. As Dan T. said, I was just quoting you, man! Didn't you post that you are Bill Parcells?! What, are you lying to us? That's not nice! Let's see if Henry is fast enough to get a good bump on Moss! I think he is going to get left in the dirt more often than not. And the Oline is definitely good enough to protect for Brunell. The only question I have is whether or not he is going to be able to get the deep balls to Moss and Patten. Because they definitely will be called. I'd be willing to bet that Moss is gonna have 100+ yards receiving and at least one score. Portis is gonna take the Turds incredible d-line to the woodshed for at least 120 and a score. Cooley's TD and the Sean Taylor INT for a touchdown make it 28-21, Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Considering Roy Williams will be too busy saying hello to Mr. Brunell I doubt he'll be beaten on anything. He isn't asked to cover anymore.For obvious reasons. Finally a Cowboy fan admits the truth. Roy Williams is a one dimensional player. Too many of your brethren are under the impression that Roy is somehow in the same class as Sean Taylor. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyuptx Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 First off for the 'Boys fans....Can we PLEASE forget the silly notion that Julius Jones is going to run all over the Skins D? I mean we had the #3 Defense last year and the Run Defense was the STRONGER part of the defense, and now we have Daniels & Arrington back to help with it.IMO, if the Cowboys win, it will be because they win the EXACT same way they did last year, and that is, beat the Skins Defense on a few big plays. The first game, it was the big pass attempt that drew the PI call at the beginning of the game that gave the Cowboys the early edge, and the second game was won on a prayer by Vinny to a below average receiver. I am sorry, but the Cowboys are not going to dictate the game or the clock, now that doesn't mean they won't win, because no matter how good a defense is, they always break down on single plays throughout the game. I am not going to deny that the Cowboys O-line didn't improve, but they aren't the line from the Glory Days, and the Skins D-line is a proven run-stoppper, this isn't just an example of me being a homer, our D-line is proven, so until the Cowboys O-line proves the can push an ELITE run stopping D-line around, there is no way you can just assume it is going to happen. To me this game is going to be close, hard fought, and won in the 4th quarter, basically like all of the games between these two teams have been over the past 10 years give or take a game or two. It's going to be a big play or the first big mistake in the 4th quarter that does one of these teams in. Skins 21 'Boys 20 First off, for redskins fans....... can we PLEASE stop bringing up, the fact they had the #3 defense last year. Where did it get them? We had the #1 defense in 2003 (Skins were 25th), lot a good it did us in 2004. IMO neither RB will have a huge day, both struggled last year against good run D's. BTW, Patrick Crayton isn't a "below average reciever", he was just a rookie last year and we're expecting big things from him this year. If he sucks so much, why's your "great" defense getting beat, by a fossil and a below average reciever? The best defense will win this game and thats why Dallas will win.:owned: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 How is Dallas the best defense when they gave up 2 rushing and 1 passing TD compared to 1 rushing and 0 passing given up by Washington? If we use your logic about our defense, then we would have to apply the same thing to San Diego's offense. So your claim about having a better defense can only be applied to this year and would therefore be a complete fabrication. That makes it safe to say that you're a liar, cowboyuptx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyuptx Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 You're not making any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 You're not making any sense. Figures I have to explain things to a Cowboy fan. You say we can't keep bringing up our #3 defense from last year. Well then we only have this year to go by. Our defense is ranked #2 right now. Yours is down there in the bottom somwhere. Simple logic. Seems to be something you have problems with. Keep working on that. I'll be by after work to check on your progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyuptx Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 It was the Bears at home.Let me spell it for you, I think our defense will prove to be better (than yours) on Monday night. Your D-line is soft on the pass, no pressure without the blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 First off, for redskins fans....... can we PLEASE stop bringing up, the fact they had the #3 defense last year. Where did it get them? We had the #1 defense in 2003 (Skins were 25th), lot a good it did us in 2004. It astounds me how Dallas fans say the past means nothing except when it is convenient. By your reasoning the 14 of 15 is irrelevant. The Skins D was awful good last year and just as good if not better in the preseason. The Bears' lone touchdown was about a 20 yard drive after a fumble on a kickoff. Including the preseason that was the first TD they have given up all year (Carolina scored on their first drive but 6 starters didn't play in that game.) And to the original poster, if you are going to stack the box to stop Portis how is it you are going to give Moss "no daylight?" 8 in the box means 3 in the secondary which means no doubling. Also, while it is true our D line doesn't bring great pressure with help of the blitz, we do blitz and do it often from a thousand different angles. I expect the Skins D to focus on Pettiti. Parcells knows this so he will take measures to counter it but it will take some away from the offense. I don't expect either team to win in a blowout and like most people who aren't thinking with their heart I expect a tight low scoring affair. Cooley and Witten are going to have big games IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 ...so how do I beat the Redskins.First, if you don't think I don't know where Portis is at all times, then you don't belong in this forum. Clint doesn't get the chance to beat us. We won't get run over! I stunt my 3-4 at you all day to wear down your o-lne if I can. I gotta get to Brunell becasue I'm going to stack the odds against Portis and ask Brunell to try and beat me. Moss gets no daylight. Patten and the rest of the irregulars have to make the plays. I'm going to shriek at my players this entire week to overcome my mental mistakes. I'm going to win the stats war on penalties and turnovers. It's max protection all the way to protect Bledsoe. If he gets hit he's gonna lay the ball on the ground. I have to protect against that. Look for alot of two tightend sets with both Dan Campbell and Jason Witten. Jason Witten has to get open. If he is game planned for the Peerless Price or Patrick Crayton have to be the difference makers. I'm playing for TOP and field position all game because given the stout Skins defence it could come down to a FG. Who's kicker is better mine or yours. My guess is it's going to be a low scoring affair. The difference in this game may actually be a trick play. You forgot one thing buddy. How do you max protect Moss speed when you have Patten on the other side and Jacobs as a 3rd that have almost the same speed? Can you please tell me what DBs you have that can cover one on one those guys so you can blitz Brunell? Because I will tell you right now no way Ware can put pressure on Brunell with Samuels there, especially since Brunell unlike Ramsey can move in the pocket. I think now I see why Gibbs wanted to put Brunell in this game. In fact I dare say if we were playing say SF this week Ramsey might still have a job but I think he knows that Dallas needs a mobile QB and one that doens't make mistakes. Honestly the battle of the game will be Rabach against you nose tackle and seeing what he did last week to a very good Bears D tackle I say you guys are going to have problems in the middle of your D line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIO Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 You forgot one thing buddy. How do you max protect Moss speed when you have Patten on the other side and Jacobs as a 3rd that have almost the same speed? Can you please tell me what DBs you have that can cover one on one those guys so you can blitz Brunell? Because I will tell you right now no way Ware can put pressure on Brunell with Samuels there, especially since Brunell unlike Ramsey can move in the pocket. I think now I see why Gibbs wanted to put Brunell in this game. In fact I dare say if we were playing say SF this week Ramsey might still have a job but I think he knows that Dallas needs a mobile QB and one that doens't make mistakes. Honestly the battle of the game will be Rabach against you nose tackle and seeing what he did last week to a very good Bears D tackle I say you guys are going to have problems in the middle of your D line.Newman, Henry and Glenn will shutdown your recievers. Oh, and ware will pressure samuels, he is too quick for that boy. And Glover had a sack last week and disrupted the pockets consistantly, and with the help of ferg we shut down LT. You guys think you will run all over us? Think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidyee Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 Finally a Cowboy fan admits the truth. Roy Williams is a one dimensional player. Too many of your brethren are under the impression that Roy is somehow in the same class as Sean Taylor. :laugh: Williams brings a different type of game to the league as compared to Taylor. And yes there is one difference between Roy and Sean - Roy hasn't been a disruption in the newspapers. If you think for one second that your team would not improve immensely with Roy Willimas on the roster you would be mistaken. For the Cowboys he has been a class citizen, incredibly dedicated worker and in many ways a game changer on the field. Whether he lays the wood on you or "horsecollars" you (which is illegal now) you will know and feel that Roy Williams has said "hello". As we have all known in Cowboy land Williams is a linebacker at the SS position and he excels in it. I've read alot on this board about Taylor versus Williams, but if you stripped these guys down to shorts you would know who carries the bigger mass. In a head on collision between Taylor and Williams it is fairly obvious who would bring the heavier load to the pile. Just compare the sizes this Monday on gameday when Williams is standing next to one of your offensive lineman. It's not about who is better it's really about the differences in the game they bring to the field. So in trying to denigrate Williams by pumping up Sean I think you have missed the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidyee Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 Yeah.Here in the States, we call it math. As far as your "math" is concerned it seems to be wrong when applied to Cowboys vs Redskins. I think you have misinterpreted the point of my original thread - it was to spur on debate about the upcoming football game in terms of strategy not debase it to a level of Kindergarten sandbox smack. Let's stick to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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