hallelujah!!!

[TK]

Do me a favor. When your balls finally drop. Enlighten me with your opinion.

Yes, I am hating. :stfu:

Brunell is washed up and Gibbs is covering his mistake for signing this over the hill, mediocre (at best) qb. Remember these words? "Patrick Ramsey is the starting qb for the Washington Redskins"

Talk about a total falsehood of a statement. :no:

I'm going to effing love going to the game in TX next week watching us get killed, while you're at home popping zits. :finger:

Am I pissed???? need a text book to figure it out kid??????? :jerk:

That's a pretty disrespectful post. Pissed or not, I never thought I'd see something like that from you Bill.

Did someone hack your account?

[Johnny Punani2]

He was healthy for most of last season and he could still barely throw for 100 yards a game.

Brunell can't throw the ball down field period and thats the major component we lacked last year

I cant wait till we get destroyed in Dallas because brunell cant get points on the scoreboard

This is simply not true. Brunell still wasn't 100% all last season after that bad hamstring pull. That is the reason why he had no "zip" on the ball. You would be surprised how much you need your legs to throw a football. Now that he is healthy you can see a big difference in the strength and accuracy of his throws. He also doesn't make the mental errors Ramsey still has a problem with. Brunell can throw accurate short and medium range passes and has a better touch on the ball. Ramsey couldn't do this to save his life.

Brunell give us a better chance of getting a win then Ramsey. That's reality...

[TheLongshot]

Everyone keeps talking about Ramsey's turnovers. Granted, the one pick is an overthrow. The fumble was an illegal play and should have been overturned. You know the league has already heard about this one. Pat was moving the ball throwing which opens up the running game. That ain't gonna happen with "scott". Brunell got his chance last year, why can't Ramsey have his? This is crap. Gibbs has alzheimers. And from the sound of it, he'd better have police protection because there are some angry fans.

Not to mention the overthrow wouldn't have been an INT if Patton cleared out. I have no clue why both Moss and Patton were in the same space.

The same that Brunell didn't lead the offense to three field goals. All he had to do was hand off...

Jason

[Gregpeck99]

Ramsey's "improved" performance at the end of last year was a head fake. The coaching staff knew this and addressed it by drafting Campbell. When Brunell played as well as PR during the pre-season, Gibbs made the decision to go to Brunell as a caretaker until Campbell is ready. The Bears game was to be the decisive test (i.e. excuse). The same decision would have been made even if PR didn't get hurt in the Bears game and he merely had a sub-par game. Gibbs is obsessed with beating Parcells (or looking competitive agianst him) and wants to go into Texas with his strongest hand. Campbell will begin his carreer as the next great Redskins QB by starting on the road possibly at Denver. While prospects for this year are dubious at best, 2006 will be another story. There is no reason Campbell will not be able to match the progress of B. Leftwhich.

[Eparadox]

Yeah, I'm gonna love seeing 8 men in the box on every down, Clinton Portis getting stuffed at the line, and us losing most of our games 14-10, 17-13...oh joy

[WVSkinsfan]

So if I search this entire site, I won't find one post by you in support of PR being the future QB of this franchise?

Exactly Hehateme,all these guys that are glad that Brunell is starting next week are the same ones that was calling for his head last year and wanting Ramsey to start. :laugh: :laugh:

[Skins11]

Haha. Hilarious. Cheering for Brunell to start. If ANYTHING good comes of this, it is maybe Campbell getting some reps.

You were honestly tired of Ramsey? I was downright angry with Brunell, what with the worst QB rating in the league last year, a sub .500 completion percentage, a fear of getting hit, and lame duck passes that murdered our receivers. Let's all forget how much better the team did with Ramsey last year.

Being tired of Ramsey but not Brunell is just ludicrous blind homerism. Maybe Gibbs is a genius and knows something we don't, but supporting the sentiment the way you did is just nonsensical.

[Skinned]

Yeah, I'm gonna love seeing 8 men in the box on every down, Clinton Portis getting stuffed at the line, and us losing most of our games 14-10, 17-13...oh joy

Yeah, because Ramsey has been just lighting it up lately... :doh:

Aside from the Bears game where we ran the heck out of the ball and played conservatively to get a win, Brunell has put the ball in the air the entire preseason. I fully expect to see him throwing the ball downfield next week. We didn't get Moss and Patten for nothing. Don't forget that Brunell threw sweet deep balls in the preseason to Farris for a TD and to Brown (which he muffed).

[method man]

Ramsey DID.

Trade him to Arizona.

So I can buy his Jersey.

He may still be young enough to be the young guy Denny Green grooms into a star. I feel Warner is gonna break Green's heart and McCown sucks ass so I feel Ramsey for an Arizona No. 3 is possible. If this does indeed happen, we have to get a quality backup because Brunell will get hurt sometime. I'm advocating signing Charlie Batch or fellow noodle-arm Tim Couch, which is pretty sad because he is the best one out there.

[HeHateMe]

Exactly Hehateme,all these guys that are glad that Brunell is starting next week are the same ones that was calling for his head last year and wanting Ramsey to start. :laugh: :laugh:

Its true.

But why bother?

Brunell is the man now, and when he gets pulled for Campbell, we'll be right back here doing this all over again.

[The Bounty Hunter #21]

It doesnt really matter bc we all know who the future of our franchise is...Mr. Cambell please stand up....

[flexxskins]

Wow, I can't believe how even this poll is. I voted Brunell simply because I am backing the head coachs dicision. However, I would have wanted Ramsey to get another chance.

[jtyler42]

I like Ramsey but I have to admit I'm tired of his mistakes, he makes to many of them...I think Brunell is what we need right now...

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

As I said before Ramey would get sacked 7 times by Dallas if he started against them. And when Patrick gets sacked there's always that heart stopping moment when you expect him to drop the ball as he's going down. He's always done that.

[medicio]

So Brunell did enough to win the job??

70 Yards passing in 3 qtrs damn we are in bad shape!!

[ST21]

If Ramsey is not the starter it should be Campbell not an old 38 year old who cannot even throw the ball past 20-yards. I would rather have a losing season with Campbell or Ramsey than win 9 games (if he can do that) with Brunnell. Mark my words.......

[ST21]

If Ramsey is not the starter it should be Campbell not an old 38 year old who cannot even throw the ball past 20-yards. I would rather have a losing season with Campbell or Ramsey than win 9 games (if he can do that) with Brunnell. Mark my words.......THERE IS NOT WAY BOOONELLL LEADS THIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS....THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER. The guy needs to retire or be the backup period.

[fansince62]

while I thought PR deserved another few games to dispell the notion he could make it through 4 quarters without an INT or fumble.....the obvious has been set in motion: the JC era by mid-season. couple thoughts:

1) Earnest Byner pointed out that this was a decision arrived at by the entire O coaching staff....not just Joe

2) PR did it to himself....too many turnovers for far too many games.

3) We'll find out what sort of person PR is should MB be hurt. I think he'll rise to the ocassion if called upon....even if his future with the Skins is not long-term

4) The PR reactionaries are comical in the extreme: it's not about MB. He deserves and will get the same critical oversight. If he doesn't cut it move on to the next option. The point was that PR wasn't getting it done in the eyes of the coachin staff.

This was all very predictable - except for the timing - since the first preseason game when JG left PR in for an abnormally lengthy period of time. That was a clear "I aint happy signal." The bottom line is winning - I don't much care who is QB so long as the ledger reads as it should.

[rdsknbill]

AH HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!

I can't wait for the dallas game. And I'll remember this post, too. :laugh:

Now that I've had a good night sleep and have calmed down a little. Remember that post. I will be in Dallas Monday night at the game. I would love to be wrong, but I just don't see Brunell being effective against the Pukes. :2cents:

[kmast000]

I have to think that Brunell gives us a better chance on Monday night. Patrick has had the whole preseason to get it right. He just isn't looking off his receviers. All we need is decent QB play. We have a great supporting cast. The line is doing great, the running backs are great, and the defense is holding strong.

[Skinned]

If Ramsey is not the starter it should be Campbell not an old 38 year old who cannot even throw the ball past 20-yards. I would rather have a losing season with Campbell or Ramsey than win 9 games (if he can do that) with Brunnell. Mark my words.......THERE IS NOT WAY BOOONELLL LEADS THIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS....THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER. The guy needs to retire or be the backup period.

So you would rather see us have a losing season than make the playoffs???? :doh:

Open your eyes people!! The big picture is still that we all (or most of us) still want the Skins to do as good as possible no matter who is behind center. That is Gibbs decision to make. I think Gibbs is scared of losing out on the Brunell of old which is what he has looked like all preseason! Don't judge Brunell by the Chicago game just because Gibbs ran a conservative offense; he did so because he knew we would need minimal offense to get the win, yet a loss was a possibility if we opened it up at all and made a mistake. I don't expect to see this same game-planning against most other teams on the schedule.

HTTR! :point2sky

[rdsknbill]

That's a pretty disrespectful post. Pissed or not, I never thought I'd see something like that from you Bill.

Did someone hack your account?

NO TK, I was just furious at the change. I came on to the site and unloaded on Renegade. I apologise for the venom but the emotions at the time were running high.

I know better

I apologise

[TimFolk]

That's what I got to say thanks to the past couple of days. I'll admit, I had a very overrated weekend, missing the skins game working and all. But to not only have them win, but the future of this franchise officially set for success, I just want to cry tears of joy. I've been tired of Ramsey, and so is Gibbs. It's time for Brunell to earn his paycheck, being a servicable veteran, and then step aside for the true future Jason Campbell. Face it, Ramsey was never in the picture. Too many turnovers at the worst possible time. Brunell is just better, and it's time to move forward. Basicly, Ramsey goes, I won't miss him. We'll be to busy moving foward to being a respectable franchise again.

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

THANK YOU GIBBS FOR MAKING MY DAY!!!!

I was thinking the exact same thing, weirddd

[TimFolk]

Exactly Hehateme,all these guys that are glad that Brunell is starting next week are the same ones that was calling for his head last year and wanting Ramsey to start. :laugh: :laugh:

Not I offical Ramsey hater since '02

[cuchip703]

Face it. Neither one of these two would have been the Redskins starter 2 years from now. Basically the qb position is a lame duck position until Campbell is ready in 2007. While the decision to pull Ramsey angers me in that they didn't give him the chance they gave Brunell last year, it might be the right decision in the long run. What we saw of Brunell on Sunday was remarkably similar to what we saw of him last year. But lets remember two points. 1) the gameplan was for Ramsey as QB, not for Brunell. He did lead us on all three of those FG drives. (how many 3 and outs did we have on Sunday) 2.) Gibbs called plays with the confidence that his defense could stop Chicago at will. He had a conservative approach and it worked...a win is a win. Lets wait and see until Monday night whether this was the right decision. Brunell could come out and whip the ball around the field to Moss and Patten like he was in the preseason, or we could have the 2004 display on hand. He only thows the passes the coaches call. Its really up to Gibbs to drop the conservative approach he has with Brunell.