hallelujah!!!

[Chachie]

I support the move, but not in a celebratory manner. I simply feel more comfortable with a healthy Mark Brunell under center.It's not that I think Patrick is a bad QB. I think he has the arm and the guts to be an awesome QB. But guys- he and Lavar Arrington have NEVER had the time to grow in the NFL under ONE offense with ONE coach. They have spent EVERY season as a "rookie." Imagine having 2-3 high school coaches in your 3-year run. Do you think you'd learn much about the grand scheme of the game? I doubt it.

Patrick Ramsey is an exciting talent but he's NOT ready yet to use it as a consistent asset to the Washington Redskins. He makes a fantastic #2 QB! I said the same thing about Brunell when Joe announced Ramsey as the #1. We have 2 really good QBs- one young and one VERY experienced. We also have what looks to be a VERY promising talent in Campbell who WILL have the time under ONE coach in ONE system. We're DEEP and we still have room to grow. We're also 1-0 and even though we have to go into the heart of Texas on Monday Night, at least we're going in with a QB that has seen it ALL. The Cowboys have one under center that's waiting for us.

[Hog Lover]

I think Ramsey

[Renegade7]

I think Ramsey

And I think you're crazy. :insane:

[Spaceman Spiff]

Brunell doesn't make as many bad decisions.

Brunell doesn't throw as many interceptions

Brunell is more mobile.

Brunell knows what it takes to win.

Brunell has been to the playoffs.

Do the math.

I know someone will come back and say "His arm isn't as strong, his arm isn't as strong!!"

To which I'll reply "It's not all about the arm strength"

[rdsknbill]

That's what I got to say thanks to the past couple of days. I'll admit, I had a very overrated weekend, missing the skins game working and all. But to not only have them win, but the future of this franchise officially set for success, I just want to cry tears of joy. I've been tired of Ramsey, and so is Gibbs. It's time for Brunell to earn his paycheck, being a servicable veteran, and then step aside for the true future Jason Campbell. Face it, Ramsey was never in the picture. Too many turnovers at the worst possible time. Brunell is just better, and it's time to move forward. Basicly, Ramsey goes, I won't miss him. We'll be to busy moving foward to being a respectable franchise again.

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THANK YOU GIBBS FOR MAKING MY DAY!!!!

Do me a favor. When your balls finally drop. Enlighten me with your opinion.

Yes, I am hating. :stfu:

Brunell is washed up and Gibbs is covering his mistake for signing this over the hill, mediocre (at best) qb. Remember these words? "Patrick Ramsey is the starting qb for the Washington Redskins"

Talk about a total falsehood of a statement. :no:

I'm going to effing love going to the game in TX next week watching us get killed, while you're at home popping zits. :finger:

Am I pissed???? need a text book to figure it out kid??????? :jerk:

[skinstzar]

Brunell cause Joe Gibbs said so

[Renegade7]

Do me a favor. When your balls finally drop. Enlighten me with your opinion.

Yes, I am hating. :stfu:

Brunell is washed up and Gibbs is covering his mistake for signing this over the hill, mediocre (at best) qb. Remember these words? "Patrick Ramsey is the starting qb for the Washington Redskins"

Talk about a total falsehood of a statement. :no:

I'm going to effing love going to the game in TX next week watching us get killed, while you're at home popping zits. :finger:

Am I pissed???? need a text book to figure it out kid??????? :jerk:

AH HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!

I can't wait for the dallas game. And I'll remember this post, too. :laugh:

[mookie0720]

If Gibbs had named Ramsey the starter the results of this poll would be completely different.

Some of you need to form your own opinion instead of just thinking whatever Gibbs thinks.

[TheLongshot]

Kinda hard to have confidence in a guy who could barely throw for a 100 yds a game last year.

All you Brunell lovers, you got your wish. At least two years before we have the potential for great QBing again, since Campbell isn't remotly ready.

Jason

[triple6mafia]

I don't know if this thread was a joke, but i am really sad right now. I almost feel as though we are giving up on the season becuase Campbell will be in there soon when brunell continues to play poorly.

[redskin48]

good move gibbs. Mark will be a lot better now that he is healthy

[jomo983]

He was healthy for most of last season and he could still barely throw for 100 yards a game.

Brunell can't throw the ball down field period and thats the major component we lacked last year

I cant wait till we get destroyed in Dallas because brunell cant get points on the scoreboard

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I agree with others. This is just the first move to usher in the Campbell era.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I cant wait till we get destroyed in Dallas because brunell cant get points on the scoreboard

stop talking out your keister. you'll be just as mad as the rest of us if we lose. Does this mean you're pulling for Dallas?

seriously guys

PR's in his 4th season yet people excuse him like a rookie. He will never be a star in this league.

[TheSteve]

Aren't lowered expectations great? With Ramsey, we were expected(from our fans) to challenge for a playoff spot. Now, with Brunell, we might just eek in if we dont turn it over. Oh well. Here's to another rebuildment and we have a championship defense getting wasted to boot.

[myzhi]

Brunell doesn't make as many bad decisions.

Brunell doesn't throw as many interceptions

Brunell is more mobile.

Brunell knows what it takes to win.

Brunell has been to the playoffs.

Do the math.

I know someone will come back and say "His arm isn't as strong, his arm isn't as strong!!"

To which I'll reply "It's not all about the arm strength"

Lets do the math:

Doesn't throw TD either.

Mobile = rings. Look at how many Vick has.

3-6 under MB.

Sure as hell didnt come close to making the playoffs.

Think it's time to go back to pre-school kid. Maybe writing "Veteran and Safe" 1 million times on the chalkboard will win us a super bowl in about 10 years.

[Phat Hog]

Why did so many of you cry and moan about the media saying this exact same thing only to now openly admit it?

:doh:

Is 'irony' a good word here, Destino?

[fpickering]

Brunell doesn't make as many bad decisions.

Brunell doesn't throw as many interceptions

Brunell is more mobile.

Brunell knows what it takes to win.

Brunell has been to the playoffs.

Do the math.

I know someone will come back and say "His arm isn't as strong, his arm isn't as strong!!"

To which I'll reply "It's not all about the arm strength"

Here is some math....

Brunell had 70 yards passing in 3 quarters of play on Sunday and each pass was for an average of 5 yards.

Brunell passed for 1194 yards last season in 9 games last season, 133 yards per game. Each pass was for an average of 5 yards.

He failed to pass for 100 yards in 5 games. His game against Dallas was his best by far and was almost 1/3 of his TOTAL SEASON YARDAGE.

How anyone can forget these simple facts is beyond me.

[Walking Deadman]

Jeeze.....I'm just kinda stunned by this one.

I supported MB last year until the Bengals game

I supported Ramsey after he took over.

Now I guess I'm supporting Brunell again.....I hate to say this, but I didn't see the "zip" in his arm yesterday that we saw in preseason. Brunell did manage the game better than PR (yes, less turnovers), but Patrick seemed to hit more bigger plays....

This is a hard one......I'm not taking sides like many of you want to do.

I just want the Skins to win damn it!!!!!!!!

Go D, Go Clinton Portis, Go Betts, Go Dirtbags.......just win fellas and beat Dallas

[Skinned]

I think Gibbs reasoning is probably simple. With the way that Brunell has played this preseason, Gibbs does not want to miss out on the opportunity to have the QB he dreamed about having when he traded for the guy. I know many of you will say all the usual comebacks (70 yds passing, can't go deep, etc.), but I think those are all weak arguments. I think the 70 yds passing was because Gibbs knew this game would be won in a grind it out fashion and he didn't want to take too many risks. As for the arm, I protest. He showed a great arm in the preseason. How quickly we forget the TD to Farris as well as the bomb that Brown muffed.... Brunell defintely has an adequate arm and the superior accuracy. I just don't think that Gibbs feels he has the time to waste to "experiment" with Ramsey. He wants to have the QB he thought he was getting last year. i don't think he can take another 5-11 or 6-10 type year. He needs to contend now!

I loved Patrick's heart and effort, but I too want to win, and feel that Brunell gives us the better chance of doing so.

[Lil Kenzo]

IF we start losing. I say we put in Campbell, let him start to develop early, and start planning for next season.

[HeHateMe]

I wished he was the future. You'll find plenty of post stating that. Let me know what you find.

I know, I'm just messing with ya R7.

But I know from experience (Quincy Carter) how it stings to wish then be very disappointed in the end.

[Stucon]

He played less than one half and had an interception, and two fumbles (one we recovered). He scored no points. He is ineffective in play action and he can not disguise the handoff from a pass. He is susceptible to sacks because of his lack of mobility and inability to read defenses. His pre-season stats reinforced this.

Gibbs know this. Its better to make the move know prior to the big game coming up. If Brunell is ineffective, lets go to the rookie. Ramsey is NOT the future.

[sammino]

He played less than one half and had an interception, and two fumbles (one we recovered). He scored no points. He is ineffective in play action and he can not disguise the handoff from a pass. He is susceptible to sacks because of his lack of mobility and inability to read defenses. His pre-season stats reinforced this.

Gibbs know this. Its better to make the move know prior to the big game coming up. If Brunell is ineffective, lets go to the rookie. Ramsey is NOT the future.

Very well put.. this is what I am seeing as well but it seems a lot of people fail to see.. they say well he had 100 some yards.. he didnt have enough of an oppportunity.. but it seems that every week there is an excuse for him.. hell, every year there is an excuse for him.. i think FINALLY, gibbs put his foot down and said to himself, thats it, enough chances, lets go with what I and everyone else sees, and go with Brunnel.

[Doctorfro]

Everyone keeps talking about Ramsey's turnovers. Granted, the one pick is an overthrow. The fumble was an illegal play and should have been overturned. You know the league has already heard about this one. Pat was moving the ball throwing which opens up the running game. That ain't gonna happen with "scott". Brunell got his chance last year, why can't Ramsey have his? This is crap. Gibbs has alzheimers. And from the sound of it, he'd better have police protection because there are some angry fans.