goldenster95 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The dude was saying that the Cowboys are a definite playoff team and could challenge the Eagles. He went on to say how Parcells was gearing his team in the offseason to prepare for the Eagles. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Well, I think it's true Parcells is gearing his team and desigining it to beat the Eagles. That would be smart. Gibbs, remember, is the guy said to have created the one-back, two tight-end formation. Why? To beat the Giants. I hope we're building our team to beat the Eagles too . The hype on the Cowboys is a bit troubling given just how awful they were a year ago. We were a far superior team in terms of how we played and how we lost. We're essentially starting 19 guys who were on the team (18 were starters at some point a year ago and one is Jansen) last year. We are not relying on a young player in a key position at the moment, though Rogers could change that. And, we have far fewer obvious, glaring holes than do the Cowboys heading into the year and areas that are not holes for the Cowboys in many cases are not yet as strong as most are for us. The difference is with Bledsoe people can imagine how he might put up 4,000 yards and play well and with Ramsey he's never shown he can do that, so, it's harder to project he'll be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 well said art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epistopheles Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I think people looking at the league greatly underestimate the value of stability. Dallas made a lot of changes this year (they had to), but one of the major things that has me so optimistic about this year is that we haven't been tempted to make some huge overhaul or (gulp) another coaching change. We have the same foundation on offense and defense, people are (for now) quiet about pulling Ramsey as the starting QB. Stability is what this team needed, and what Dallas doesn't have. I'm looking forward to sweeping them this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Sterling was saying they preparing for the Iggles in the sense they were close and the offseason additions were upgrades to put them over the top. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The dude was saying that the Cowboys are a definite playoff team and could challenge the Eagles. He went on to say how Parcells was gearing his team in the offseason to prepare for the Eagles. :laugh: He's wise beyond his years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The dude was saying that the Cowboys are a definite playoff team and could challenge the Eagles. He went on to say how Parcells was gearing his team in the offseason to prepare for the Eagles. :laugh: Good. Hopefully he is looking past us so when we sweep the Cowgirls it'll hurt that much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Well, his lips are lookin' a little bluish-purple these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txkid Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The Skins and Giants are doing the same as the Cowboys. All have been toying with a 3-4 in order to reduce the "matchup" problems that Brian Westbrook brings. The Cowboys simply have more studs in their lineup than the Skins and Giants do so they are getting a bit more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I am not looking forward to facing that D this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLiverpool Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Didn't he say the Cowboys could challenge the Eagles, unlike the Redskins? I recall him dissing the Skins and thinking WTF? Why all the hype on the Cowboys D, when the Skins D is coming off a much better year...I'm not gonna say we're as good as the Eagles are, until we beat the Eagles...but this Skins team is on the rise, having ended last year beating the Vikings and looking much more sound on offense in the preseason(in comparison to last year's preseason..when they looked bad)... An average offense and the same D will get the Skins over .500...it comes down to turnovers, 3rd conversions, sacks and scoring...on both sides. Sterling isn't paying attention...oh well, hopefully the Skins sneakup on some folks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I just want to hear what the excuses for Roy Williams will be if he doesn't return to ProBowl form. I mean, I don't think he is bad or anything, but what if he turns out to be another Terrance Newman, who was really good in his first season and a half, and then coordinators found glaring weaknesses in their game and exposed 'em? Who knows...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The Skins and Giants are doing the same as the Cowboys. All have been toying with a 3-4 in order to reduce the "matchup" problems that Brian Westbrook brings. The Cowboys simply have more studs in their lineup than the Skins and Giants do so they are getting a bit more attention. Dude, you make a statement like that and you've gotta link it. Since when have the Skins and Giants been using or even contemplating using the 3-4??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagletooth Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I agree its sickening, the media views Dallas, as clearly out classing our Skins. Didn't we finish with the same record last year? Seems that they have already reserved a spot for Julius Jones right next to Emmitt in Canton. The Ware kid has looked impressive, but is the Cowboy Defense poised to jump back into the top spot after such a poor season. We made a big jump last season with the addition of Williams and his schemes. But is that the norm? I just don't see Dallas as clearly out classing us. And NY appears to be ranked higher than us too, apparently, having a 2nd year guy with the name "MANNING" alone will propel a team above the Skins and there meddeling owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Well, I think it's true Parcells is gearing his team and desigining it to beat the Eagles. That would be smart. Gibbs, remember, is the guy said to have created the one-back, two tight-end formation. Why? To beat the Giants. I hope we're building our team to beat the Eagles too .The hype on the Cowboys is a bit troubling given just how awful they were a year ago. We were a far superior team in terms of how we played and how we lost. We're essentially starting 19 guys who were on the team (18 were starters at some point a year ago and one is Jansen) last year. We are not relying on a young player in a key position at the moment, though Rogers could change that. And, we have far fewer obvious, glaring holes than do the Cowboys heading into the year and areas that are not holes for the Cowboys in many cases are not yet as strong as most are for us. The difference is with Bledsoe people can imagine how he might put up 4,000 yards and play well and with Ramsey he's never shown he can do that, so, it's harder to project he'll be the answer. Gibbs I don't think necessarily does that with people, he builds with game planning. I remember hearing Donnie Warren talking about that once. The difference in Spurrier and Gibbs is, Gibbs has a specially designed plan for each team. I don't think it's wise to build for one team, then another one will come up and bite you in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Well, I think it's true Parcells is gearing his team and desigining it to beat the Eagles. That would be smart. Gibbs, remember, is the guy said to have created the one-back, two tight-end formation. Why? To beat the Giants. I hope we're building our team to beat the Eagles too .The hype on the Cowboys is a bit troubling given just how awful they were a year ago. We were a far superior team in terms of how we played and how we lost. We're essentially starting 19 guys who were on the team (18 were starters at some point a year ago and one is Jansen) last year. We are not relying on a young player in a key position at the moment, though Rogers could change that. And, we have far fewer obvious, glaring holes than do the Cowboys heading into the year and areas that are not holes for the Cowboys in many cases are not yet as strong as most are for us. The difference is with Bledsoe people can imagine how he might put up 4,000 yards and play well and with Ramsey he's never shown he can do that, so, it's harder to project he'll be the answer. Your first paragraph sounded very intelligent. Of course Bill is ATTEMPTING to fashion and mold his team to compete with best team in the division. In your second paragraph it's hear we go again. You continuously go out of your way to explain how and why the Redskins "are far superior" to the Cowboys and in IMO it makes you sound insecure about another teams progress. I read your explanation of how the Redskins lost better than the Cowboys but you must understand that Cowboy fans and most NFL people just cannot accept the Redskins as being a "far superior team" to the Cowboys. At the end of the day, most see two 6-10 teams with the Cowboys sweeping (yet again). I'm not dismissing your analysis. I'm simply pointing out that in the NFL you basically are what your record says you are in terms of a non-biased outside point of view. The Skins do have continuity in most areas which certainly can be important. Every team is in a different situation however, and IMO one should not dismiss an infusion of new players (vets and rooks) to give a team new life. Redskins fans are so quick to point out that we have a couple rookies playing key roles but I don't know if it's such a bad thing considering the positions they're playing. Rookies can have a positive impact as we all know Carlos Rodgers will be starting soon. Third paragraph I agree with somewhat. When I study strengths and weaknesses of both teams.. I just cannot see the Redskins as vastly superior? Perhaps the second game of the season will prove me wrong? Not an attack... just my :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I agree its sickening, the media views Dallas, as clearly out classing our Skins. Didn't we finish with the same record last year? Seems that they have already reserved a spot for Julius Jones right next to Emmitt in Canton. The Ware kid has looked impressive, but is the Cowboy Defense poised to jump back into the top spot after such a poor season. We made a big jump last season with the addition of Williams and his schemes. But is that the norm? I just don't see Dallas as clearly out classing us. And NY appears to be ranked higher than us too, apparently, having a 2nd year guy with the name "MANNING" alone will propel a team above the Skins and there meddeling owner. To look at the Dallas team, they don't seem to have improved personel wise along their offense.. Yeah they'll get JJ back. but I think they've downgraded at the QB position.. The media maybe looking at who we lost as well. Coles, Gardner, Pierce, Smoot.. That's a lot to lose and have any kind of faith that a team will improve, regardless of what we got. We'll show um. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I think people looking at the league greatly underestimate the value of stability. Dallas made a lot of changes this year (they had to), but one of the major things that has me so optimistic about this year is that we haven't been tempted to make some huge overhaul or (gulp) another coaching change. We have the same foundation on offense and defense, people are (for now) quiet about pulling Ramsey as the starting QB. Stability is what this team needed, and what Dallas doesn't have. I'm looking forward to sweeping them this year. You did a 180 with your receiving core and you lost two key starters on D. Not to say that this won't work but it's not as if you haven't had changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Your first paragraph sounded very intelligent. Of course Bill is ATTEMPTING to fashion and mold his team to compete with best team in the division. In your second paragraph it's hear we go again. You continuously go out of your way to explain how and why the Redskins "are far superior" to the Cowboys and in IMO it makes you sound insecure about another teams progress. I read your explanation of how the Redskins lost better than the Cowboys but you must understand that Cowboy fans and most NFL people just cannot accept the Redskins as being a "far superior team" to the Cowboys. At the end of the day, most see two 6-10 teams with the Cowboys sweeping (yet again). I'm not dismissing your analysis. I'm simply pointing out that in the NFL you basically are what your record says you are in terms of a non-biased outside point of view. The Skins do have continuity in most areas which certainly can be important. Every team is in a different situation however, and IMO one should not dismiss an infusion of new players (vets and rooks) to give a team new life. Redskins fans are so quick to point out that we have a couple rookies playing key roles but I don't know if it's such a bad thing considering the positions they're playing. Rookies can have a positive impact as we all know Carlos Rodgers will be starting soon. Third paragraph I agree with somewhat. When I study strengths and weaknesses of both teams.. I just cannot see the Redskins as vastly superior? Perhaps the second game of the season will prove me wrong? Not an attack... just my :2cents: Actually, insecurity comes in many forms. The most prominent form is a fan of, say, Dallas, attending a message board devoted to, say, Washington, who responds like clockwork to any reference that the Redskins are a better team than the Cowboys. That is the very embodiment of insecurity. Conversely, I'm HIGHLY secure. I've looked at how my team achieved it's poor results last year. I've looked at how your team did. Your team was blown away and overmatched. You had to make major changes. You have made major changes. Our team was competitive and mostly self-defeating in many ways, despite injuries, which allowed a different level of work during the offseason. I have routinely been complimentary of the work the Cowboys have done to improve a horrible team. You needed to do what you did this offseason. Just as we needed to do what we did. Even DOING what you did, you have incredibly noticed, glaring weaknesses or areas with limited upside even still. Areas you hope are covered to improve are to be improved by young players so it's a hard gamble to make very often. We do not know that Rogers will be starting very soon, but, we do know he won't be starting tomorrow. Our advantage is having enough capable, proven starting players to allow us to work out rookies in slowly rather than immediately. That's a measure of how much further along we are than you. There's no crime in that. I can also see where your team could be very successful this year. Just as I can with my team. With my team it is how Patrick Ramsey performs and largely little else given the complete units around him. In Dallas, if Bledsoe improves, and Jones puts together a whole year at a higher level, and your offensive line can surprise people and hold together, and your young players on defense can hold up all year, you'll be good. See the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaldeje Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Your first paragraph sounded very intelligent. Of course Bill is ATTEMPTING to fashion and mold his team to compete with best team in the division. In your second paragraph it's hear we go again. You continuously go out of your way to explain how and why the Redskins "are far superior" to the Cowboys and in IMO it makes you sound insecure about another teams progress. I read your explanation of how the Redskins lost better than the Cowboys but you must understand that Cowboy fans and most NFL people just cannot accept the Redskins as being a "far superior team" to the Cowboys. At the end of the day, most see two 6-10 teams with the Cowboys sweeping (yet again). I'm not dismissing your analysis. I'm simply pointing out that in the NFL you basically are what your record says you are in terms of a non-biased outside point of view. The Skins do have continuity in most areas which certainly can be important. Every team is in a different situation however, and IMO one should not dismiss an infusion of new players (vets and rooks) to give a team new life. Redskins fans are so quick to point out that we have a couple rookies playing key roles but I don't know if it's such a bad thing considering the positions they're playing. Rookies can have a positive impact as we all know Carlos Rodgers will be starting soon. Third paragraph I agree with somewhat. When I study strengths and weaknesses of both teams.. I just cannot see the Redskins as vastly superior? Perhaps the second game of the season will prove me wrong? Not an attack... just my :2cents: I understand what you are saying, and even agree to an extent. From the outside, given the sweep last year and identical records, it would appear that Dallas was and is (given drafting and free agents) better than us. However, I think we have had this discussion with you before. Art is absoluetly correct in his analysis of the teams. The Boys had to make sweeping changes, or face the possibility of a repeat of last year, perhaps this time without the lucky calls, bounces, etc. Gibbs understands we need more time in the same system, etc. I'm not sure I would say we are VASTLY superior, but certainly superior nonethless. But yes, outside the intelligence and wisdom of this board, given a cursory, surface look, Dallas probably does look better. However, given a more in-depth, careful analysis of both teams, one should feel the Skins fan has just as much, if not more, reason for optimism than the Boys fan. That is what so many on this board find frustrating about the media's coverage. Can't wait for week two. You have to promise, by the way, to make an appearance or two even when we beat you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Last I heard, Drew Bledsoe is the starting QB for the Cowgirls......nuff said about their playoff chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobiemiles Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The dude was saying that the Cowboys are a definite playoff team and could challenge the Eagles. He went on to say how Parcells was gearing his team in the offseason to prepare for the Eagles. :laugh: You know to much about smoking crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobiemiles Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The still need a mobile QB. The whole right side of their o-line is suspect. And before Ware is compared to LT, can I see him play a game first. Their D is not better than ours. We will win the battle in the trenches this year, now Gibbs has to work on the referees. The only way Dallas beats us this year is if its given to them by the zebras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef8181 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Why would the media give us any recepect? Yes the D was good last year and should be better but everybody is looking at the offense and wondering...can Ramsey be a productive starter for the entire season? Will a new set of wide recievers make any difference to this offense? Can Portis make more of an impact than last year? Can we eliminate the stupid penalties and turnovers that killed us last year? Until those questions are answered during the season we will continue to get no respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunarluau Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Sterling Sharpe is more stupid than the suits he wears. It's pretty universal though that all of the "experts" think we're going to suck. Dr. Z has us at 4-12. The trendy picks this season are the Cowgirls and Minnesota. I think it's great everyone is counting us out. I think we were picked to come in 4th in the NFC East in 1982 as well, just a game better than the CArdinals. I have the Sports Illustrated at home somewhere. s :eaglesuck :gaintsuck :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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