Lavarleap56 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I was very vocal after the first two preseason games about Ramsey not looking the part of a NFL starting QB. I have watched the Pittsburgh game a few times and saw alot of positives from Ramsey abd some things he still needs to improve on but i think he will be fine as our starter. If the trend continues and Ramsey can get his downfield throws on target then i think we can be dangerous all across the board this year. :dallasuck :bearsuck: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat~man Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 i agree , i admit i was doubtful after the first 2 games , and although im still not 100% sold i do think we will be ok and he just needs to get in tune a bit and we should make a good run ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanevan Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 i also gained confidence in him...just with the speed of our recievers he should be leading them way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 not sold yet either, although i am pleased with his progress over the course of the games... Here's my deal, and I think this is what us people who aren't entirely sold on Ramsey have felt so far. There's no doubt he did well at the end of last season. Made good strides. So what did people expect from him when camp opened this year? The same level of play, and if we were lucky, maybe better. Lets be honest, we didn't get that from him. Reports from camp were bad, the first two games were bad (at least in my eyes, and if you disagree, well then tough). I was annoyed because it looked like he had regressed. After all, camp drills shouldn't be that much of a challenge if he's as good as some people want to believe, right? Same with the scrimmage and the pre season games. So why had he shown a regression from last years play? Expectations for him were up because he finished off last year on a positive note. Thats why I think people were/are frustrated with him in the pre season. However, I am pleased with the progress that he's made from game to game, hopefully he's errorless against the Ravens and he can start 2005 with a bang. HTTR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 heh.. I dunno why this is funny to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Spiff, instead of making the observation you did, go further and ask why . . . and I'll tell you why . . . new offense, two new WRs, and an emphasis on working on his touch . . . the last thing is probably the hardest thing and it can really manifest itself in some ugly forms when he's learning that on the job . . . the only example that comes to mind is Darryl Kile, the Astro pitcher, a while back . . . the Stros had him working on his curve while during the season . . . while he was learning, he got shelled, but once he got it down, he turned out to pretty damn good . . . (of course, that was also in the Astrodome . . . the fool then signed with the Rockies and watched a bunch of balls sail out of the park) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Spiff, instead of making the observation you did, go further and ask why . . . and I'll tell you why . . . new offense, two new WRs, and an emphasis on working on his touch . . . the last thing is probably the hardest thing and it can really manifest itself in some ugly forms when he's learning that on the job . . . the only example that comes to mind is Darryl Kile, the Astro pitcher, a while back . . . the Stros had him working on his curve while during the season . . . while he was learning, he got shelled, but once he got it down, he turned out to pretty damn good . . . (of course, that was also in the Astrodome . . . the fool then signed with the Rockies and watched a bunch of balls sail out of the park) I was more talking about the decision making. But I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I was more talking about the decision making. But I see your point. I think the decisionmaking is a product of Ramsey finally landing in a real pro system for the first time last year. He'll need time to do that. I really hope that Ramsey does well this year, so that he'll be around in 2006, his final year of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 heh.. I dunno why this is funny to me LOL, me too. It's like a skins fan confessional thread. I'm sure Gibbs will be happy to hear that the fans are with him on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project myu Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Remember last year.. WE WANT RAMSEY. WE WANT RAMSEY. Then when he started warming up, the crowd went wild. This was one of the few times I had ever felt such electricity in the air (considering the Redskins had only won in the opener up to this point). And you have to admit, even though we still ended up losing to the Bengals, this was the turning point of last season. Thanks to Ramsey, we were able to see two more victories at home. We could've seen a third if it weren't for that HORRIBLE throw at the end of the Eagles game, but yeah.. We were right there with them, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I just watched the game for the third time, (man I am tired). I support Ramsey and believe that we have the right qb starting for us this season. The only thing/things that have had me nervous alot when Ramsey drops back to pass, are a couple of bad habits. The staring down the wr thing and still passing to him even when he is well covered. I don't care what anyone says, Sellers would have walked into the endzone on that Cooley td. Don't get me wrong, the throw was tight and it was a fantastic catch, but it was a risk. The possitive thing that I saw (which leads me to believe that he improves the more he plays) was how well he was able to elude tacklers. He also seem to stay very composed while doing so. I think with more game time and good coaching, Patrick Ramsey will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 not sold yet either, although i am pleased with his progress over the course of the games...Here's my deal, and I think this is what us people who aren't entirely sold on Ramsey have felt so far. There's no doubt he did well at the end of last season. Made good strides. So what did people expect from him when camp opened this year? The same level of play, and if we were lucky, maybe better. Lets be honest, we didn't get that from him. Reports from camp were bad, the first two games were bad (at least in my eyes, and if you disagree, well then tough). I was annoyed because it looked like he had regressed. After all, camp drills shouldn't be that much of a challenge if he's as good as some people want to believe, right? Same with the scrimmage and the pre season games. So why had he shown a regression from last years play? Expectations for him were up because he finished off last year on a positive note. Thats why I think people were/are frustrated with him in the pre season. However, I am pleased with the progress that he's made from game to game, hopefully he's errorless against the Ravens and he can start 2005 with a bang. HTTR! Before last game, you dudes were saying how terrible Ramsey was, and now it's that you're "not entirely sold on him" :laugh: Read back through your post here and maybe you'll see why it doesn't make a lot of sense. A few things: 1. Very few players ever play at the same level at the beginning of preseason as they did at the end of the previous season. In other words, all players develop a little rust in the offseason. There's a big difference between preseason form and end of the season form. 2. Ramsey has 2 new wrs he's getting used to. Of course there are going to be some miscues, but with time, they should get that straightened out. He's already looking more comfortable with Patten. 3. Gibbs has Ramsey working on different things then last year. Other than maybe the Pitt game, Gibbs hasn't been trying to win as much as he's been trying to develop the long pasing game. 4. Players are just people, not machines, They have good periods and bad periods. They get on rolls, and they get in slumps. Sometimes, younger players might even regress a bit. OMG! It seems like the second a Skins player shows some struggles, half of the extreme community is ready to dump him. Ramsey struggles early and it's time to start Brunell. Rogers gets tired in his very first game and after recovering from an injury and he's deemed a bust. Have a little patience people, and show your team some support. Now I'm not saying Pat is a lock for the probowl. He's still got a a way to go, but to give up on him after the first 2 preseason games is just silly. How about giving the best coach in the history of the NFL a little time to work with his QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I just watched the game for the third time, (man I am tired). :paranoid: bored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I commented in one of the other 2 dozen Ramsey threads that it seems like the staff is trying to emphasize more touch on his passes this pre-season, which he doesn't seem comfortable with and seems to take away from his accuracy. - In that TD drive against the Steelers he seemed like he just let loose again and his accuracy improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDICTOR Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Some of these comments, wondering why players aren't sharper at the beginning of pre season than they were last season in the final game, man, you guys must be young kids just starting to watch football. You guys are really precious. Don't lose than innocense. But really, ask your parents why athletes have to play and work out constantly and can't sit around for 6 months, playing video games and partying with their friends. Especially in teams sports when you have to play with NEW players and your success is dependent upon other people who you have just met. And by all means remember, don't take rides from strangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Pease Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Patrick is trying to develop touch on the longer passes and to change ones habit is not natural and will take some time to become second nature. Staring down the intended receiver and making poor decisions I think are largely due to his past experience of not having good pass protection and so had to quickly get rid of the ball. With the OL we hopefully have this year he will have time to look for other receivers and time to make a good decision. Bye the way, I think he looks much better in the shotgun (which I understand he was used to in college). I think he will develop into a really good QB; I just hope that will happen starting with the first regular season game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 thank god we have someone like you Predictor to remind everyone! you may have accomplished nothing of substance in your short, little life....but you're imminently qualified to lecture the rest of us!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da#1skinsfan Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Who cares if you can admit it... Can you admit that youre jumping to conclusions WAY too early about whether or not hes the man? Once you can admit that, you'll see both sides are equally ridiculous. Give it some time....3 preseason games, 4 preseason games, 3 season games....NOT ENOUGH TIME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 thank god we have someone like you Predictor to remind everyone! you may have accomplished nothing of substance in your short, little life....but you're imminently qualified to lecture the rest of us!!!! :laugh: Maybe theres a secret crush on Pat? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Who cares if you can admit it...Can you admit that youre jumping to conclusions WAY too early about whether or not hes the man? Once you can admit that, you'll see both sides are equally ridiculous. Give it some time....3 preseason games, 4 preseason games, 3 season games....NOT ENOUGH TIME! Um, that's why he put the word "may" in the title...how is saying Ramsey MAY end up being good enough afterall jumping to conclusions "way too early"? Good lord, it's getting that even admitting to having optimism in our favorite team's starting QB must immediately be met with ridicule... "Hmm, Ramsey's actually improving from game to game...couple that with his play at the end of last season, and he might turn out to be pretty good afterall.." "DON'T YOU THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY TO BE PUTTING HIM THE HALL OF FAME??!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 heh.. I dunno why this is funny to me Hmmmm, I wonder why.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Oh, please. We haven't even played a single game of the regular season. He didn't do enough in the pittsburg game to warrant wanting to still make a change, but that still doesn't mean he's the future of this franchise. If we go 2-0 into the bye week, I'll shut the hell up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Before last game, you dudes were saying how terrible Ramsey was, and now it's that you're "not entirely sold on him" :laugh: Read back through your post here and maybe you'll see why it doesn't make a lot of sense. A few things: 1. Very few players ever play at the same level at the beginning of preseason as they did at the end of the previous season. In other words, all players develop a little rust in the offseason. There's a big difference between preseason form and end of the season form. 2. Ramsey has 2 new wrs he's getting used to. Of course there are going to be some miscues, but with time, they should get that straightened out. He's already looking more comfortable with Patten. 3. Gibbs has Ramsey working on different things then last year. Other than maybe the Pitt game, Gibbs hasn't been trying to win as much as he's been trying to develop the long pasing game. 4. Players are just people, not machines, They have good periods and bad periods. They get on rolls, and they get in slumps. Sometimes, younger players might even regress a bit. OMG! It seems like the second a Skins player shows some struggles, half of the extreme community is ready to dump him. Ramsey struggles early and it's time to start Brunell. Rogers gets tired in his very first game and after recovering from an injury and he's deemed a bust. Have a little patience people, and show your team some support. Now I'm not saying Pat is a lock for the probowl. He's still got a a way to go, but to give up on him after the first 2 preseason games is just silly. How about giving the best coach in the history of the NFL a little time to work with his QB? :applause: :applause: :applause: :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 :paranoid: bored? Very. I was injured on the job and have been home for about 5 months now. I'm going nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Oh, please. We haven't even played a single game of the regular season. He didn't do enough in the pittsburg game to warrant wanting to still make a change, but that still doesn't mean he's the future of this franchise. If we go 2-0 into the bye week, I'll shut the hell up. Boy, am I glad you weren't around for the '87 season when Gibbs played musical chairs with the QBs before HAVING to settle with Doug Williams (who won a Super Bowl, if I remember correctly). You would have been b!tching that whole year! Let Ramsey do his thing & let Gibbs run the team the way he sees fit, not the way you see fit. Relax, Ramsey is & will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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