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      ES Coverage: Giants vs Redskins 
       
      12/9/18
       
      DEFEAT!!!
       
      Giants 40 - Redskins 16
       
      Greetings friends, JimmiJo here, and I am joined by my shivering partner, Spaceman Spiff. Together we will bring you this all important NFC East divisional matchup between the Washington Redskins and New York Giants.
       
      When I was last with you the Redskins had command of the division and there was optimism to spare. Since, devastating injuries to quarterbacks, linemen, and cornerbacks has left this team losers in 4-of-5 contests.
       
      But there is still everything to play for, and if they can manage a victory today and the Eagles to the same Washington will once again have a share of the lead.
       
      I can dream can't I?
       
      On paper, the future looks grim. A continued collapse will start the questions about the future of personnel and perhaps leadership. Yes, we can certainly point to injuries as the primary reason the team is struggling. But the record earlier in the year was masking some issues with the squad. No real arial threat. An inconsistent running game. And a defense that has been anything but consistent.
       
      But these are questions for another time. Today, it is just two teams looking for a win.
       
      See you at the half.
       
      Follow along on Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 32 RB Samaje Perine
      o   No. 46 RB Kapri Bibbs
      o   No. 52 LB Ryan Anderson
      o   No. 63 C Demetrius Rhaney
      o   No. 66 G Tony Bergstrom
      o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley
       
      JimmiJo
       
      I was happy to see players like Josh Johnson and Byron Marshall in the game. The marquee guys did not earn the right to play following the disastrous first half. It was historically bad.
       
      Never before had the Washington Redskins trailed by as much as the 34-0 deficit they entertained today at the half.
       
      I remarked to one of the writers that in 13-seasons I had never seen this team so outplayed as today. The offense led by Mark Sanchez was throw-up in mouth bad. At no point did you feel like they would or could score.
       
      I tweeted before the game that it is time for Daniel Snyder to replaced head coach Jay Gruden. Yes injuries are the headline. But the offense was poor before the injuries.
       
      No aerial threat and an inconsistent rushing. They only seemed to score 20-points per game.
       
      What they did do well was hold on to the ball. And the defense was a takeover machine the first half of the year.
      But turnovers tend to even out.
       
      So I was more than glad to see those ‘backups’ play. All they did was show they should have been playing in the first half.
       
      Especially Johnson. Take a look at your Redskins’ starter the rest of the way. From his first snap the offense looked different. There was energy. There was life.
       
      And there was threat.
       
      Johnson played with more command, accuracy and imagination than Mark Sanchez. He looked much more the accomplished quarterback.
       
      A word on Josh Doctson. You are an idiot. Without the stupid penalty you are not letting the safety out-position you to make the pick with 5-minutes left.
       
      Following this game, staring at the standings and considering possible scenarios for getting in the playoffs is fools’ gold. It is all about assessing who it worth keeping for next year.
       
      I don’t believe head coach Jay Gruden is going to make the list. Nor should he. He has had nore than enough time to do something here. He had Kirk Cousins’ starting over 3-full seasons.
       
      He had his chance.
       
      I tweeted before the game team owner Daniel Snyder should let Gruden go and bring in Mike McCarthy. Washington Post writer (and friend) Rick Snider made a great counterpoint to that idea:
       
      “Why would McCarthy want to come here? He has better options,” he said.
       
      That sure feels like the truth. And if so, it may explain why Gruden is fast becoming one of the most tenured coaches in the league.
       
      This was my last game for this season. I would like to thank Extremeskins and the team for the opportunity this year. I will see you guys next year.
       
      Let me go on the record now and say I do not think Jay Gruden's position here is secure. Not with the likes of Mike McCarthy available.

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Official extremeskins list of all the "experts" incorrect predictions?

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I just don't have the patience to do it myself - I would but I have to finish some stuff up here at work, and the search function isn't up and running, so I can't look for the ones that were already posted on this board. But I was thinking that it would be a good idea to set aside a sticky thread or something of that nature with all the media "experts" predicting that the Redskins will finish last in the NFC east, that they won't even have a winning record, etc.

The reason behind this is to see what all the experts say when the Redskins make the playoffs this year. Who owns up to their mistake and who doesn't? There's bound to be dozens.

Off the top of my head: Street & Smith, TSN, SI's Peter King, CBS Sportsline, and of course everyone's favorite Lenny Pastabelly from ESPN...just to name a few, have all predecited the Skins to finish last in the NFC east - just like they all predicted the Chargers to finish last in 2004...and how they predicted the Ravens to finish ahead of the Steelers...and the Colts to win the Super Bowl...and the Seahawks would make it to the NFC championship game...

How about it guys? Bubba, you up for it?

Ok, I'll get it started, in no particular order:

411: "This team might take another step back this year." (Ryan Smith)

S&S: prediction: last in NFC east (don't have the mag to get a name)

TSN: prediction: last in NFC east (Dan Pompeii)

ESPN Sports Nation predicts O/U for wins: 6

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Gosh the list would be endless. I have yet to hear anyone pick them to do anything this year as far as the experts go.

Of course the players always have their say.

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Good idea. I have one thread bookmarked on my other comp, I can link it here later.

Sticky this for the season then we can all send hate mail when we make the playoffs:laugh:

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if you were these guys what would you honestly think, yes we as fans see something different, but untill the skins can show differently we are going to be taking very lightly

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if you were these guys what would you honestly think, yes we as fans see something different, but untill the skins can show differently we are going to be taking very lightly

I agree. These experts don't have the insight and incredible foresight that we do. But seriously, some of these guys are "fans" as well...just not fans of the Redskins. Everybody had a favorite team growing up and they are going to be influenced by that. Ron Jaworski always favors the Eagles and Michael Irvin always favors the Cowboys. However, Troy Aikmen seems to be one ex player who is able to be impartial and view the Skins differently than most analysts and different than all ex Cowboys players.

But getting back to the topic....we all have a different pair of rose coloured glasses on.

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Clayton is a Cowboys homer. Pasquarelli is a Steelers homer. Pompeii is a front-runner for the Patriots and Eagles (insert 2005 winner for 2006 predictions). Zimmerman is part of Raider Nation.

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Clayton is a Cowboys homer. Pasquarelli is a Steelers homer. Zimmerman is part of Raider Nation.

That explains everything, he is still mad over Jay :laugh: :laugh:

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Basically anything more than 5 wins and we will outperform the entire expectations of any media outlet in the known universe.

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Its gonna be great if the skins make the playoffs this year and make all of those losers look like fools

They already look like fools ;)

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technically we don't know if their predictions are 'incorrect'... i expect them to be wrong, and they better be wrong, but we don't know for certain

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I wonder what would happen if we forwarded a million copies to each critic is a nano second? :evil:

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In the NFL nearly every team can make the claim of having a chance at becoming if not great at least pretty good/competitive....maybe all the experts are predicting us to go no where....but what the experts say means jack S***....the steelers last year were predicted by few to be make the playoffs, a majority saw them as a team that would struggle to reach 500.....they went 15-1....honestly if we end up making the playoffs, even win the division that would not be nearly as big a shocker as what the Steelers were able to do.....the experts put their foot in their mouth every year on many teams, what the 'experts' say is not really a reliable prediction more so an educated guess due to the parity in the NFL....I am not looking forward to having the experts put their foot in their mouth rather I just want to see the skins win and enjoy every single momment!!! I posted this a couple weeks ago thought this might also apply:

You will find this in the MLB/NBA for instance through out the regular season but when you get down to the playoffs team chemistry/momentum and the collective will is not as formidable an opponent over a five or seven game stretch in two or three consecutive series. However in the NFL team chemistry is probably the most necessary element needed to succeed, with it you have a good chance to win or at least put up a fight every game. Without it your season is doomed, no chance what so ever. In the NFL momentum and homefield advantage is ten times more of a bigger element to succeed compared to the NBA/MLB. You do well in the regular season you still are going to have to win on your opponents home field/areana....however in the NFL homefield is everything.....

Because of the parity in the NFL teams have a chance in every game they play=possible winning streak=winning makes players/coaches happy they build comrodery=become even stronger through chemistry=season only being 16 games you get a decent lead in your division you are hard to bring down=you get homefield advantage which is key for playoff success

Lets be perfectly honest on paper there is not that much difference between the Patriots and the rest of the league, talent wise.....but they have been able to take their abilities as a cohesive unit and play as a unit.......people go about saying well the Patriots disprove the theory that a dynasty can not occur in todays NFL, I would say that what the NFL has done is stopped there being a seperation between the top and bottom market teams, stopped big market teams from buying up players over and over again while small market teams selling their fans short.......the Patriots are not like the Yankees who just constantly buy new players, the Patriots are proof that money does not come from success, sucess in whatever you do is still persistance/perserverence....

PERSISTENCE

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

1932 Calvin Coolidge

http://www.calvin-coolidge.org/page...ns/quotesp.html

What I am trying to say is that with the NFL if someone says I know this team has no chance or this team can not be beat.....they really do not know what they are talking about....teams have their advantages going into this season do not get me wrong.......but every team in the league, as the cliche goes, is starting tied for first.....

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Its gonna be great if the skins make the playoffs this year and make all of those losers look like fools

It would not make them look like fools. If we make the playoffs this season, we will have come out of nowhere. Nobody looked a fool last season when the Chargers broke out. It was just unexpected.

Everyone needs to stop taking this stuff so personal. Until we start showing something, nobody is going to pick us to do anything.

Besides, those "analysts" are just like weather men, they all say the same thing with very minor variations. Sometimes a weather man says it's gonna be a clear day and the next thing you know, we have 2 feet of snow.

The point is, they really have no idea what they are talking about. It is just that we seem to listen even though they have a 50% chance of being right or wrong. Who cares what they predict for us. 9 times out of ten, it is going to be incorrect.

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seriously it would be easier to post 8-8 or better predictions

:doh: I forgot there isn't ANY!

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Athlon Sports Mag prediction: 3rd in East

"The offense should be better with Jansen returning to the line, but the team did little to address its lack of playmakers on the perimeter....the defense should again be among one the league's best under Gregg Williams. But there are too many deficiencies on offense to challenge for a playoff spot."

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