hands11 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 LaVar - been 3 of 4 years. Hurt the one he missed. Washington - made it last year. Springs Patton Taylor - if not in jail Griffin - should have made it last year. Dockery - finger crossed. He could be a stud. If not Dockery, anyone or everyone from our O line. We are so stacked there. And if we are scoring. J Hall. and a possible with A Brown. We have a very loaded team. They just have to put it together. Im real excited. Can we play this next game tomarrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingchris626 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I don't think Patten will make it. Even if he has a good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Maybe the injury, in a way, will give Jansen extra props. Jansen could make his first Pro Bowl as a starter. He should have made one or two already. The thing is, unless you're the Eagles, you don't get to have everyone in your damn team on the Pro Bowl. It's not 1991 anymore. There's a hell of a lot of bias. That Springs wasn't a starter at CB last year is an utter joke. He was shut down AND had 6 INTs and 6 Sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zab Judah Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Clinton Portis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I'd go with Portis, Taylor, and Arrington for now. Remember the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. Portis and Arrington are very popular leaguewide and Taylor is getting up there with his style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmic Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Portis, Arrington, Taylor, Samuals, Washington, Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skin_finatic Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Portis, Arrington, Taylor, Jansen, Washington, Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornWithin Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Portis, Arrington, Taylor. I don't see you guys with more than those 3. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDICTOR Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 LaVar - been 3 of 4 years. Hurt the one he missed.Washington - made it last year. Springs Patton Taylor - if not in jail Griffin - should have made it last year. Dockery - finger crossed. He could be a stud. If not Dockery, anyone or everyone from our O line. We are so stacked there. And if we are scoring. J Hall. and a possible with A Brown. We have a very loaded team. They just have to put it together. Im real excited. Can we play this next game tomarrow. Love your enthusiasm but you're being too much of a homer. Springs was inured last season, he was injured already in camp, and he has always been injured. Despite the fact that he is a solid player when he is on the field, I am not counting on him to make it through the season and 16 games. Griffin, while very good, is not excellent. He also is a very solid player who is just not quite a pro bowl player. He will never have 9 sacks and create havoc. His sack total will always be around 4-6 and he will play the run very well. Dockery hasn't even proven he should be a starter yet. He might have a good year, and not be false starting all the time, but pro bowl may be a year or 2 down the road. It took Nate Newton about 6 or 7 years in the league to become a dominate guard. But still, Dockery can be very good at times. Taylor could make it...but he is a real wild card. He and Lavar are both the wild cards. If both of them are healthy...raise their level of play...make the pro bowl and they both dominate and take control of the game...geeez..what a defense this could be. But thats a lot of if's and woulda shoulda couldas. At this point I would be happy just to have all of those players stay healthy and contribute in their roles as solid gap fillers in Greg Williams defense. I think we may have 2 or 3 potential guys for the pro bowl but the defense might be the best in the league this year WITHOUT actually having a lot of players go to Hawaii....and thats just the nature of our defense. As far as Patton goes...I agree. This guy is near the end of his career and he has something to prove to the Patriots and himself. He has already stated he can be the number 1 receiver for a team. He will hook up with Patrick 3-5 times per game and usually for big yardage. You also left out a big name. Chris Cooley. Its just possible that with the running game and the speed receivers...this guy just doesn't get covered. He could catch 80 balls. And yes...he is that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Will have? or SHOULD have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Depends on how many games the Redskins win by the time voting goes down, or how important they were to being competitive on a weekly basis. Everyone knows this and it is the same year after year. The Redskins win 6 games, no more than 3 players should be expected. The Redskins win 12 games, no less than 4 shoould be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky*13 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Portis cooley could make it. samuels or jansen,the wont give us both. Griffen,anyone says different is crazy. Lavar or washington same as our tackles. springs,he deserved it last season. Taylor,as long as he keeps his cool he cant miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Love your enthusiasm but you're being too much of a homer.Griffin, while very good, is not excellent. He also is a very solid player who is just not quite a pro bowl player. He will never have 9 sacks and create havoc. His sack total will always be around 4-6 and he will play the run very well. Totally wrong here, Griffin had many more tackles, many more tackles for loss and about as many sacks as a couple of the other DT's who did in fact make it to the Pro Bowl last year despite missing a game and parts of others. He was that good and played on the #1 ranked defense in the conference while the players that were actually picked played on some of the worst defenses in the conference. Thats like one of the Bears OLmen going to the Pro Bowl last year despite the horrible offense. Griffin 70 Tackles 6 Sacks 15 Tackles for Loss in 13-15 games total. Glover 41 Tackles 7 Sacks 3 Tackles for Loss and played all 16 games. Rogers 68 Tackles 4 Sacks 7 Tackles for Loss in 16 games. Which has better stats? And now consider that the you must know that the best defense in the conference had many fewer plays run against it overall but even playing 1.5-3 fewer games and having fewer opportunities to make plays Griffin made many more plays than both of these guys. He averaged about 5 tackles a game, a tackle for a loss a game and about a sack every other game. Glover got a tackle for a loss once every 5 weeks and a sack every other while getting a little over 2 tackles a game. Rogers who is supposedly great had a sack every 4 weeks slightly fewer tackles and a tackle for a loss every other game. Our defense was by far the best in the conference against the run. Dallas was the third ranked run defense in the conference yet was just as close to the 16th ranked team in run yards as they were to the the Redskins. Detroit was 5th. Somehow these players make the Pro Bowl and Griffin doesnt. Williams for Minnesota did have better stats on paper (12 sacks) than Griffin yet played on one of the worst run defenses in the conference and the worst pass defense in the conference. Thats like putting a guy like Samuels in the Pro Bowl last year despite the horrendous offense because he gave up only 1 sack all year. Griffin should have at least been the #2 DT picked for the Pro Bowl last year based on his performance and his teams performance upgrade from the previous year because of his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Chris Samuels (Should have gone last year) Springs Washington Bowen Taylor Portis Jansen Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharms01 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Springs Washington Jansen Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Pro-bowls are for the players, I care about our record and our record alone. If we get some probowlers out of it so be it, but who really cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 It all depends on one player on how many of the guys you mentioned go. Ramsey. If he goes to the Pro Bowl then I bet another 5 go with him like Samuels, Griffin, Springs, Taylor, Washington. Portis could also go because I can see him have a 1600 yard season and 10 TDs if Ramsey plays to a Pro Bowl form. Heck the question then is what skin would be the MVP of the superbowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins0128 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Pro-bowls are for the players, I care about our record and our record alone. If we get some probowlers out of it so be it, but who really cares? Amen to that. Its all about winning, as stated earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneskins Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Let's get some WINS under our belts, and then we can talk about Pro-Bowlers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Maybe the injury, in a way, will give Jansen extra props. Jansen could make his first Pro Bowl as a starter. He should have made one or two already. The thing is, unless you're the Eagles, you don't get to have everyone in your damn team on the Pro Bowl. It's not 1991 anymore. There's a hell of a lot of bias. That Springs wasn't a starter at CB last year is an utter joke. He was shut down AND had 6 INTs and 6 Sacks. Right tackles don't make the Pro-bowl. Which is unfortuanate. They should distinguish between the tackle positions but they don't. So with that criteria, left tackle already has the leg up, due to perception that it is a more important position. Additionally two name players already exist in that position and they'll make it no matter what - ie Pace, and Jones (note imo Pace should have only made one Pro-bowl in the last six years look at the #s of sacks he gives up - most All Pro caliber tackles give up from 1-3 a year he gives up 10-12). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoRevs Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Depends on our Record, but this is who I see Washington Taylor Portis Arrington is still not 100 percent. I dont really see him having a probowl year. Our offence in my opinion is still going to struggle, and for a struggling offence, not many players are going to be choosen... And if Portis is not starting the probowl, you know he is going to decline it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 We will have two. One from Offense, and one from Defense. Look at what happened last year. We could have had 4 legitimate probowlers, but we got snubbed in a major way. The media won't select more than two from DC. I know the league wants us to think the fans play a great role in picking the All-Stars, but I'm a conspiracy theorist and I think the league and sports writers play a very large role in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Oh Snap!.....greats stats pull and comparison on Griffin vs Rogers/Glover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoGiK Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 we have a lot of great players but only these people will go to the pro-bowl. Lavar, Portis, Taylor, Samuels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I think we have several guys who can make it, but it all depends on how the team does as a whole. We had a bunch of deserving guys on defense last year who were snubbed because we were a losing team. On offense I think these guys have a chance... Portis Jansen Samuels On defense Washington Arrington Taylor Griffin Springs Dark Horses Moss Cooley I also think that Dockery has the potential to be a pro bowler if he ever lives up to his potential, but I think he'll have to show two consecutive years of good play before he's voted in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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