Westbrook36 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Redskins: Arrington, Barrow/McCune/Barnes?, Washington Giants: Emmons, Pierce, Griesen Eagles: Dhani Jones, Trotter, Simoneau/McCoy/Adams Cowboys: James, Ngyuen, Shanle/Thorton/Singleton? This is a tough one to rate. I think each squad has potential question marks with players coming back from injury, key players departing, weak links, etc. 1-4, if I had to rate them: 1. Giants 2. Eagles 3. Skins 4. Cowboys What say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Good one. you forgot Holdman though Tough to say If Barrow and L.A. are healthy though there is no question skins by a land slide. Would also say we have a lot more depth than any of the other 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 1) Redskins 2) Eagles 3) Cowboys 4) Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Redskins, Eagles, Giants, Cowboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by RDSKNfaithfull Good one. you forgot Holdman though I have to admit, I used the depth charts on NFL.com to fill in some blanks in my head.....I knew you had a lot of names at the position, just couldn't remember them all. I am impressed with the Giants corps. I don't think they have a weak link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINtil8tin Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 1. Redskins 2. Eagles 3. Giants 4. Cowboys WB, the skins at #3? C'mon, now. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Simoneau and Jones are terrible, how on earth can you rank that corps second and ahead of the Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 With a healthy Arrington the Redskins have the best linebacking group by a huge margin to go with fantastic depth. It's not even close. This is such a clear margin it shouldn't have to be asked. Washington has the top two linebackers in the division. Arrington may well be "overrated" but, he produces in a way few can match at the strongside backer spot, and no one has his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooby Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Redskins (arrington and washington on outside, either marshall, barrow, holdman, mccune on the inside) Eagles Cowboys Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I agree with Art, the combination of Washington and Arrington can't be touched in the division. They more than make up for our lack of a proven commodity in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 A healthy Arrington and healthy Barrow could make this group one of the best in the league. With Marshall and Holdman providing depth I can't think of any team with a better set of LB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refuze Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The Giants LB core isn't that good. Can Pierce really carry that squad without Gregg Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorPickSix Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Skins Iggles Gints Cowpukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 When putting this debate out there, try getting Dallas' linebackers right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Art With a healthy Arrington the Redskins have the best linebacking group by a huge margin to go with fantastic depth. It's not even close. This is such a clear margin it shouldn't have to be asked. Washington has the top two linebackers in the division. Arrington may well be "overrated" but, he produces in a way few can match at the strongside backer spot, and no one has his ability. I agree, Arrington is a phenom (at least physically). But, if the Redskins seperate themselves from the pack in concerns to the LB corps, I think Washington is the main reason. Arrington's a freak, but Washington is the consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by HeHateMe When putting this debate out there, try getting Dallas' linebackers right. I hate to say it, but I love Nguyen (hope I spelled that right). He does nothing amazingly spectacular, but he doesn't do ANYTHING wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 It's obvious by a wide margin that our LB core is one of the most dominant in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamSneed36 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Skins deffinatly top the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by herrmag I hate to say it, but I love Nguyen (hope I spelled that right). He does nothing amazingly spectacular, but he doesn't do ANYTHING wrong. I love him too. But I'm very curious to see who he "adapts" to the 3-4. Taking on lineman 60-80 lbs. bigger than him will be a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Wait, the Skins LBs are the spear of the Redskins defense, they have incredible physical gifts and/or are football-intelligent and were on the best D in the conference by far. And you rate them THIRD in a DIVISION? Marcus Washington is better than any other LB in the division(putting aside guys coming off of injury) Lavar, injury or no, has big-play capacity bigger than anyone else in the division. And we're not even covering the depth players like Campbell, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I don't know how well (Good or Bad) Dallas' 3-4 will be, but: 1. Skins 2. Eagles 3. Cowboys 4. Giants (no shot a Pierce here however, he should have a great season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refuze Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 My list: 1. Redskins - We had Marshall, Pierce, and Washington last year. We have Arrington, ???, and Washington this year. Whoever plays MLB should do fine because Arrington and Washington will cause havoc on the outside. 2. Eagles - They are just well disciplined and overachievers. It's almost like "Insert a linebacker here" and he'll automatically be a good player. 3. Cowboys - Definitely has a decent core, but not the best though. 4. Giants - Pierce may be one good player, but the others he's surrounded with aren't special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsForLife260 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Art With a healthy Arrington the Redskins have the best linebacking group by a huge margin to go with fantastic depth. It's not even close. This is such a clear margin it shouldn't have to be asked. Washington has the top two linebackers in the division. Arrington may well be "overrated" but, he produces in a way few can match at the strongside backer spot, and no one has his ability. What he said. But seriously wasnt washington the only probowler in that group. Oh yea trotter:puke: Anyways a healthy arrington idk what can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 If you're curious about the Cowboys LBs, read on... Nguyen will definitely start inside, Ware will definitely start outside, but after that it gets a little hazy. Singleton will be fighting to keep his OLB job, but I don't think he's what Parcells has in mind as 3-4 OLB. I guess I have to say something nice about him, so I'll call him a "savvy veteran." Bradie James is a talented guy, big (6'2", 240), fast and a hitter, but he has to stop blowing reads in his 3rd season. Could play inside or outside, but probably best suited to ILB in the 3-4. Shanle is a big boy, too, (6'2", 245) who isn't as athletic as James, but was very productive when given a chance last year. Definitely an ILB candidate. Kevin Burnett is the rookie from Tennessee the Cowboys picked in the 2nd round this year. Played the weak-side in college, could play inside or outside. Not a great pass-rusher, but a team leader and very productive. Kalen Thornton is a guy I'm personally pretty excited about. He's a DE/OLB tweener from Texas. He was really impressive in the preseason last year, but didn't get many chances in the regular season. Could push for a starting OLB spot or backup Ware. Eric Ogbogu, from the Under Armor commercials, is trying to convert to OLB also. There are a couple more camp fodder/special teams guys, but I don't think they enter into the evaluation. I think its definitely too early to rank them. We won't have a good idea who's going to play where, and in which defense until we're well into the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by flashback I think its definitely too early to rank them. We won't have a good idea who's going to play where, and in which defense until we're well into the preseason. [/b] You're obviously putting reason into this argument. This is offseason talk man! We speculate to no end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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