B_carney Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 I have 2 plays that people might forget that make Mr. Redskin the Better CB. 1. Rookie season against Dallas Tony Dorsett sure tochdown running down the side line no one in sight when out of nowhere from the other side of the field DG tackles him inside the 5 still love seeing that play on Dallas/Washington Monday night games. 2. Eric Dickerson at the time was supposed to be the fastest and one of the best power rbs in the game stiff arm to Green putting him down only to see DG get up and catch him and make the tackle before he scored the TD. Now in anyones opinion who knows of these plays can you honestly say that deion ever did that, could do that, or more importantly would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz That being said, if I were to say who was better in their prime, than I would have to go with Sanders. I've never seen a corner dominate the side of the field like he has. That's because you never saw Green in his prime. He would completely shut down the game's best on a regular basis. On top of that, he was great in run support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan080 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 In their prime, Sanders was better than D. Green. I think Green was able to keep his game at a higher level for a longer period of time. However if you put them each at their best, I think Deion Sanders was the better corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Green was an important ingredient in the defense, Sanders was just icing. Dallas probably would have been about as good without Sanders than with him. Green's TD return against the Bears was when I knew tha only the Redskins could stop the Redskins from wining the Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtyler42 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 As much as this hurts to say I have to give the edge to Deion b/c he was a better playmaker than DG... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by B_carney 2. Eric Dickerson at the time was supposed to be the fastest and one of the best power rbs in the game stiff arm to Green putting him down only to see DG get up and catch him and make the tackle before he scored the TD. Haha, I remember seeing Deion when he was with us try to tackle someone from behind. I can't remember who it was against, but whoever he tried to tackle carried him for two or three steps before another Redskin came in and finished him off. One of the funniest things I've ever seen, Deion was just hanging on for dear life. Deion was a better playmaker. I remember those years when he was on the 49ers and Cowboys, it was like every weekend he returned an interception for a touchdown. But gimme DG. Carney is right, those two plays were incredible. Also the return against the Bears. First ballot hall of famer and if he doesn't get in a la Monk then heads will roll. Hail :logo: :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by RDSKNfaithfull Green had more consistency(sp?) but nobody was a better cover corner than Dion in his prime including the great D.G. I saw Art Monk school Deion when he was in his prime and Monk was old. Deion got burned for over 100 yards against Monk. Deion played on some great teams in Dallas and S.F., but he was the #2 best CB ever behind Darrell Green. Being a great playmaker doesn't make you the best. Darrell Green was a better CB during their prime and throughout their careers. If anyone says Sanders was better, they are just looking at his man-to-man coverage. I'm sorry, but there is more to being a CB than just playing man defense. Darrell actually tackled people and made TD saving tackles. If you want to talk about intangibles, talk about punt returns. Deion had his share, but Darrell did it when it mattered most. Think playoffs...Chicago Bears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Darrel Green, not because he was a Redskin, because Darrel Green always made the sure play... Always Dion got burnt a few times because he liked playing aggressively.. Which is fine he made an awesome career out of it But DG is the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFischer37 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Deon, although a horrible tackler, changed games all by himself. Doesnt touch DG in the class category though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz As somewhat of an impartial viewer, I hope to add my opinion here. I think it's hard to analyze that fairly, because Green played longer at a more consistent level than Sanders did. It is tough to weigh that type of longevity in the equation. It adds a twist into the "which corner had a better career" question. If that is the question at hand, you could make a case for either player, based simply on preference (gritty versus flash). That being said, if I were to say who was better in their prime, than I would have to go with Sanders. I've never seen a corner dominate the side of the field like he has. Though he was far from the most physical player in the game, his toughness was rarely tested because of the lack of passes thrown his way. I'm not attempting to slight Green, since he is, undoubtedly, a hall of fame cornerback, but I'd take Sanders in their respective primes. Grrrrrrrr..... :slap: :nutkick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin Actually, when facing the best wideouts in the history of the game, even at an old age Darrell Green came out on top or drew even. When facing Jerry Rice, Deion Sanders got smoked on a regular basis. Instead of analyzing how Green did against "push-off" Irvin, how about analyzing the fact Moss said "he's the best I've ever gone against" when Green was in his LATE THIRTIES. Or how about Rice's opinion of Green and how well Green played him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Just wanted to give a BIG :finger: :finger: FU to all the people saying that Deion was better. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Anyone who says that Deion was better either doesn't remember Green in his PRIME or has been blinded by Deion's bling. Stats don't mean everything. :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Once again I must remind everyone the quote from Phil Simms "Coach Parcells told me if I even look like I was going to throw in D. Greens direction he would personnelly come on to the field and take me out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Deion was good, but not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachSkinzFan Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by CowboyzSuckAzz Just wanted to give a BIG :finger: :finger: FU to all the people saying that Deion was better. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Anyone who says that Deion was better either doesn't remember Green in his PRIME or has been blinded by Deion's bling. Stats don't mean everything. :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck Amen that is exactly right. Stat's don't mean everything. There is not a stat out there that will make me think that Deion was better than Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by flashback I'd be interested to see the stats when Darrell Green and Michael Irvin went head-to-head. I seem to recall Irvin having some monster games against Green, but my memory may be a little faulty there. Well, that may be because by the time Irvin was emerging as the top WR on the Cowboys, Green was 31 years old. This is the problem I often see when comparing Green to Sanders. Green played and started for so long that people think of his play in the 90s as his play in his prime (see Eagles-Legendz post.) They don't remember that in the 80s Petibone would put Green on the opposing offense's top WR, ignore him, and then just coach his other 10 guys. That is the definition of a 'shut down' corner. In the early 80s it was Green. In the late 80s it was Woodsen and Green. In the early 90s it was Sanders and Green. If you want to look at Green in mid-late 90s, you have to look at Deion NOW, and Green was MUCH better at that point in his career. Personally, I never saw a cover corner as good as Green. He stuck to the opposing WR like glue. Sometimes a perfect throw and a perfect catch would beat him, but it wouldn't be because Darrell wasn't there. Deion payed the game differently. He'd give a cushion. He could cover well, but he'd also sometimes bait the opposing QB into throwing his way and use his amazing ability to make the play anyway. He was so dangerous at doing this that even if he was out of position on a certain play the QB wouldn't throw his way anyway. It was a different style than Green, but it worked just fine. Green was also a much more complete defenseman. His rookie year he led the team in tackles, and he was always in on a play that involved his side of the field. His ability to chase down anyone, from Tony Dorsett to Barry Sanders to Curtis Martin, was unparalleled, and probably saved as many TDs as that old high-stepper Deion scored. Whatever their playing style, either CB in his prime is a top choice. I'm a Redskin fan, so I'd take Green for his durability, longevity and the fact that he never took a play off. Plus he doesn't come across as a pompous ass, which I personally find more tasteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by CowboyzSuckAzz Anyone who says that Deion was better either doesn't remember Green in his PRIME or has been blinded by Deion's bling. Stats don't mean everything. Originally posted by Henry Personally, I never saw a cover corner as good as Green. He stuck to the opposing WR like glue. Sometimes a perfect throw and a perfect catch would beat him, but it wouldn't be because Darrell wasn't there. Deion payed the game differently. He'd give a cushion. He could cover well, but he'd also sometimes bait the opposing QB into throwing his way and use his amazing ability to make the play anyway. He was so dangerous at doing this that even if he was out of position on a certain play the QB wouldn't throw his way anyway. It was a different style than Green, but it worked just fine. Green was also a much more complete defenseman. His rookie year he led the team in tackles, and he was always in on a play that involved his side of the field. His ability to chase down anyone, from Tony Dorsett to Barry Sanders to Curtis Martin, was unparalleled, and probably saved as many TDs as that old high-stepper Deion scored. You guys got it right. Green might have been the best ever. The only other player I thought was as good was Rod Woodson in his prime with Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Henry put it correctly if you compare Sanders now at his age to Green at the same age there is no comparision Green wins easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Deon changed the position, loved green but Deon was on a different level in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essex03 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 No contest. Darrell tackled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Hey essex dont discount Deion so easily he did "get in the way" I mean all those towels flying around tied to his waist were quite a distraction to the guy running the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Never could understand the headband around the neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinToWin Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 DARRELL...PERIOD!!!:wewantd: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by jbooma Deon changed the position, loved green but Deon was on a different level in his prime. Exactly how did Deion change the position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trez Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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