Skins4SB Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I have the same problem as you do OrangeSkin. I'm 18 years old, I'm about 6'1, and I weigh 150 lbs. I eat A LOT, and I still don't gain anything. I go to the gym almost every day and when I don't I do exercises with the free weights I have at home. It's hard for me to gain a pound. I had a big growth spurt in 9th grade where I gained 25 lbs, but after that I haven't gained much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Man to be 18 again with that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4SB Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Trust me, it really isn't as good as it sounds. I wish I was of average weight for my height. My ideal weight is probably 175-180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Buddy, When I turned 18, I was 5-7 142 lbs. When I was just about 21 and getting out of Basic Training, I was 5-8 138 lbs. Trust me. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4SB Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I'm not doubting that you know the feeling. Your previous post made it seem that it was a good thing which I do not see it as. I am 6 inches taller than you at 18 and I only weighed 8 more pounds. Maybe this is better than other situations, but I hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 In a way, it's relative Skins4SB . Gaining weight, per se, isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's one of those I know it's a long time from now, but when you're my age things. I have to really be careful with my diet now as opposed to when I was 18-25. I get out of line and eat some bad stuff for more than a week, and it starts to show real fast. Now I know that doesn't mean squat to you right now, and I do understand that. I hated it. I was short and thin. I remember working out and eating big macs and drinking beer and not hardly gaining a pound. :cuss: It sucked. I was very body concious, for a guy, at the time. But it's all relative. I also have to say that keep in mind that weight being used for progress when it comes to gaining, or losing weight, is only a part of it and not the most important thing. Go with the way things fit, ect. Adding just 5lbs of muscle or even half that is a very good thing. And it will show. Remember, we're all our own worst critics. And that isn't always a good thing. More than likely, as with most of us, you'll be the last to notice any changes in you as you workout. Others will notice first. "Hey, you look different. You........working out or something?" Or something like that. You do the best you can with what you got. Try to be happy with that. And that's the best any of us can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4SB Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Park City Skins In a way, it's relative Skins4SB . Gaining weight, per se, isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's one of those I know it's a long time from now, but when you're my age things. I have to really be careful with my diet now as opposed to when I was 18-25. I get out of line and eat some bad stuff for more than a week, and it starts to show real fast. Now I know that doesn't mean squat to you right now, and I do understand that. I hated it. I was short and thin. I remember working out and eating big macs and drinking beer and not hardly gaining a pound. :cuss: It sucked. I was very body concious, for a guy, at the time. But it's all relative. I also have to say that keep in mind that weight being used for progress when it comes to gaining, or losing weight, is only a part of it and not the most important thing. Go with the way things fit, ect. Adding just 5lbs of muscle or even half that is a very good thing. And it will show. Remember, we're all our own worst critics. And that isn't always a good thing. More than likely, as with most of us, you'll be the last to notice any changes in you as you workout. Others will notice first. "Hey, you look different. You........working out or something?" Or something like that. I agree with what you have said here. I know when I get older it won't be like this anymore. But when it does stop, I do not want the weight that I can gain to be fat. I'm just frustrated that I have been this way all my life, and it has been affecting many aspects of my life. Even if I weighed 15 lbs more(and lets say it 15 lbs of fat), people would perceive me differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 And therein lies the problem man. How others may perceive you. I really don't mean to sound so damn preachy, but there comes a time when you have to sit back and stop giving a damn how others perceive you. Because that effects how you perceive you. And that's a bad thing in my eyes. As I said, do the best with what you got. You just may be surprised how you begin to perceive you. Cliche as it may sound. I started working out big time 22 years ago, ( not including my on and off times from hs to my brief stint in college). Somewhere along the line, it bacame more about how it made me feel as opposed to how it made others feel about me. All that said, again I do understand about how it feels. I have a few friends who were like that. One or 2 still are. Sometimes it is a bit of an ego stroke to hear the "Hey. You've been working out man". I gained 4-6 lbs. 4-6 lbs in about a year of working out when I was in the service. In that time, I heard a few of those comments. Even better, I was stronger and things fit a little tighter Just 4-6 lbs. After that, it was all about me. Do your best, get some good pro advice, ( not that there aren't a few here who don't know what they are talking about and are good to come to as well), and make some progress. Little by little. Don't set unrealistic goals or expectations. And don't compare yourself to anyone but you. Worry about you and you alone. edit: Keep in mind too that you still have some filling out to do. Many young men don't reach physical maturity, (bones and ligamints become dense and such. Therefore muscles tend to grow a little too if memory serves), till somewhere in the 20's if I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4SB Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I've noticed as I've gotten older I started to care less about what people think of me. The statement I'm about to make may not be in true in all cases, but from the girls I've met, and the guys that I know who are in the same dilemma as I, girls don't seem to be attracted to guys that are skinny. That's something hard to ignore. I really do not no how to approach this. I'm sure there are girls that don't think like this, but I have not met them. Maybe it is the thinking of girls that are my peers. I do not know. I can ignore if a guy teases me about my weight, but this issue bothers me a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Ah. Right. Girls. Why I started working out big time in the first place, ( Well. Top 3 anyway). I was right and wrong in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4SB Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Yep, they always fit in somehow into any topic. I guess I won't talk further about this because I seem to be sabotaging OrangeSkins topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Park City Skins Yeah. I'll expound. I shouldn't have too, being you're a trainer and all and should know this anyway. The body believes in balance. Demands it in many ways. While compound lifts do in fact work the secondary, (supporting muscles), these exercises still don't isolate these muscles with the specific movements that work them out. For specific gains of size and or strength, as well as maintaining the above mentioned balance, these muscles should be included in any excercise program imho. Now, I'm not saying to the degree in which many bodybuilders do, but an exercise or 2 for the smaller, supporting groups would suffice. Those being biceps, triceps, shoulders, (specifically the medial and posterior delts),forearms, and the calves. This not only helps in keeping many of the smaller joints from suffering because a muscle group is so much stronger than the other, but it also will, obviously, give those muscles more strength to support the core lifts. Good points, for sure, but I still disagree with you for the most part. Give me an 18 year old kid and let me get him on a routine of squats, deads, bench, and some back exercises and I guarantee noone will question the balance of his body. A year or so later, then YES, he should start doing secondary exercises. I think you would agree that MOST people who go to the gym concentrate on secondary muscles instead of major muscle groups and therein lies the problem for a majority of people who try to gain weight but can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenmdixon Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Skins4SB I've noticed as I've gotten older I started to care less about what people think of me. The statement I'm about to make may not be in true in all cases, but from the girls I've met, and the guys that I know who are in the same dilemma as I, girls don't seem to be attracted to guys that are skinny. That's something hard to ignore. I really do not no how to approach this. I'm sure there are girls that don't think like this, but I have not met them. Maybe it is the thinking of girls that are my peers. I do not know. I can ignore if a guy teases me about my weight, but this issue bothers me a bit. It's not true in all cases. I'm living proof! See my first post in this thread. The people worth getting involved with will see *YOU* and not just your body, by the way. It really isn't all about your physical attributes - personality has quite a bit to do with it too. Just take care of yourself (take regular showers, wear clean, neat clothes, etc...), exercise regularly - and quit worrying so much about your looks - believe me, they don't matter quite as much as you think. Gain more confidence in yourself, and stop giving a crap about what other people think. This gives you a spring in your step that gives off an air of confidence that is very attractive (well, to me at least - maybe I'm crazy?). Back on topic... Women have the same problems when it comes to weight - where you are judged by being too slim (re: the Lindsey Lohan thread recently) or too fat (re: Kirstie Alley thread recently). I was anorexic in high school - went from being 125 in 11th grade to being 85 in 12th grade over the course of one summer. It was, in part, due to more exercise, buit mostly in part to my stopping eating much of anything. It took me 4 years to get up to "normal" weight - and then my thyroid pretty much gave up the ghost when I was 28. So now it is a struggle to keep weight down (and more often than not I lose a battle or two - but the war is still waging ). I'm finding that if you cut out caffiene, it does wonders for you in the long run. I'm also finding that a steady program of exercise makes you feel better. And I care less and less each year what others think of my body (except my husband, of course) - and I am so mad at the fashion industry who cannot design properly for anyone who is not a toothpick. I guess all I wanted to convey is to stay the course, young grasshopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple6mafia Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 take your body weight, multiply it by 15. Those are how many calories you have to take in. After getting that number, you have to realize that 50% should be carbs, 30% should be protein (whole proteins), and 20% should be fats (good fats, like in nuts, and fish/fish oil pills). You should space it out over 6 meals and keep in mind you should probably take some in shake form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denverdan Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I was the smallest guy on my high school football team, I gained 10 pounds in about a month drinking two protien shakes a day in addition to normal meals and exercise. You will get sick of it, but force it down. I mixed mine with those powdered carnation breakfast drinks. Of course if you want to bulk up, lift weights, but I think any exercise will do, your body will crave fuel and your appetite will increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufumonk Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Get a desk job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huly Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Do you have a high metabolism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4SB Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by jenmdixon It's not true in all cases. I'm living proof! See my first post in this thread. The people worth getting involved with will see *YOU* and not just your body, by the way. It really isn't all about your physical attributes - personality has quite a bit to do with it too. Just take care of yourself (take regular showers, wear clean, neat clothes, etc...), exercise regularly - and quit worrying so much about your looks - believe me, they don't matter quite as much as you think. Gain more confidence in yourself, and stop giving a crap about what other people think. This gives you a spring in your step that gives off an air of confidence that is very attractive (well, to me at least - maybe I'm crazy?). Back on topic... Women have the same problems when it comes to weight - where you are judged by being too slim (re: the Lindsey Lohan thread recently) or too fat (re: Kirstie Alley thread recently). I was anorexic in high school - went from being 125 in 11th grade to being 85 in 12th grade over the course of one summer. It was, in part, due to more exercise, buit mostly in part to my stopping eating much of anything. It took me 4 years to get up to "normal" weight - and then my thyroid pretty much gave up the ghost when I was 28. So now it is a struggle to keep weight down (and more often than not I lose a battle or two - but the war is still waging ). I'm finding that if you cut out caffiene, it does wonders for you in the long run. I'm also finding that a steady program of exercise makes you feel better. And I care less and less each year what others think of my body (except my husband, of course) - and I am so mad at the fashion industry who cannot design properly for anyone who is not a toothpick. I guess all I wanted to convey is to stay the course, young grasshopper. Thanks for the advice. My hygiene is fine though, I wouldn't be able to live if it was bad. Originally posted by Huly Do you have a high metabolism? I assume I do. I don't gain any weight no matter what I eat. I exercise everyday. Last summer, I played basketball almost everyday for about 4 hours. Now that I have a job this summer, I can not do that but I still go to the gym and lift weights and shoot some hoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard saunders Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 How To Gain Weight? Get married and have children.... Have a sex change and become a freshman in college... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 3-5 lbs simply by watching the Food Network. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASkinsfan28 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 I ma not sure if some one has all ready posted this i dont feel like going through all the post, but go to a GNC and get weight gainer shakes or protein shakes or sumthen like that they are not bad i have a chocolate weight gainer/protein shake and it is pretty good but i take it b-4 i workout and use it for muscle gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by Westbrook36 Good points, for sure, but I still disagree with you for the most part. Give me an 18 year old kid and let me get him on a routine of squats, deads, bench, and some back exercises and I guarantee noone will question the balance of his body. A year or so later, then YES, he should start doing secondary exercises. I think you would agree that MOST people who go to the gym concentrate on secondary muscles instead of major muscle groups and therein lies the problem for a majority of people who try to gain weight but can't. I'm trying to shy away from hijacking the thread, ( yeah right), but Westbrook AI have trained those kids. 14,15, up to 18 and so on. Put them on the core lifts. With the addition of the odd arm exercise. And the important part was, their bodies didn't question their balance. Unlike mine, whcih after many years of ignoring the smaller groups, told me about it. Learn by doing. And of course alot of stuff from the ACSM and others to support that. And no, it's been my experience in nearly 30 years of lifting that many people tend towards overtraining depending on goals. Getting bigger, far too many sets and exercises on every muscle group. Too damn many trying for that big bench. And then there are those who are looking to lose weight. Way too much time doing way too much aerobic exercise and not enough with the weights. And then there are...well....you should get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by GASkinsfan28 I ma not sure if some one has all ready posted this i dont feel like going through all the post, but go to a GNC and get weight gainer shakes or protein shakes or sumthen like that they are not bad i have a chocolate weight gainer/protein shake and it is pretty good but i take it b-4 i workout and use it for muscle gain. I try protein shakes, but the increased osmotic load gives me the sh!ts. I've been trying in vein to gain wt as well (was 215 at my best and now hover around 202 - I'm 6'6"), and have been very unsuccessful. The only way I was able to do it was to lift 4-5 x per week, but now that I'm in the "professional" world, I don't have nearly the time for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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