The Hangman- C_Hanburger

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  1. 17 hours ago, volsmet said:


    The notion that a game plan would need significant altering, because Dunbar & Fabian were out, is hilarious. 

    Ya..THAT is BS..if you have a suspect PRESSURE!! Don't let the QB settle and pick them apart...playing soft zones is the most stupid game plan for that that I can imagine. I don't understand this statement at proves to me they are clueless and probably as predictable as the sun coming up. Too many "perfect O Calls" for what the D runs...Dak's run for containment

  2. 52 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:


    By my count this is their 6th month dealing with this.  How much time do they need to process it?  I follow the Dolphins closely since i am in South Florida and Minkah pretty much just became an issue as for his discontent a few weeks ago.  They made a decision.  They acted and now likely have a top 10 pick for it.  It's not rocket science.   


    I'd be very surprised if Trent's value stays the same in the off season.  If I were another team my interest would not be as high.  In the off season, you got Trent now going to be 32, only one year left on his contract and most importantly a draft that's potentially very rich at LT and FA in front of me, too.   

    I don't disagree about trading him NOW..if you can. I just don't want to see him go for a 3rd round or worse. LT's are going down ..if you get a chance go for it..just don't get fleeced. If they knew TW was this adamant prior to the draft..yea..major screw up. I sure a heck don't know the facts here

  3. 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:


    I'd add three things that might make this even crazier if its all true


    A.  The Redskins will levy and not forgive the fines on Trent (according to one report)

    B.  Trent will likely do the same song and dance next year and might hold out again (according to D. Hall from his conversation with Trent directly)

    C.  Strong impression (multiple sources) that Trent will not resign here when his deal is over


    Ok if all of this is true.  Let's say Trent comes back and they antagonize him further by not waiving off the fines.  We go through this dance all over again next year and then he leaves after that.  Forgetting the stupidity of forgoing an opportunity to upgrade the team with a high pick or two in a draft that might be special at LT -- they also are attracting constant drama to the team.  As some have pointed out who cover the team, Trent returning after all that has happened will have an edge to it.   You want Trent in that locker room when he supposedly has a beef with the medical staff and FO -- talk about awkward?   Plus a round 2 of this might be coming?






    I doubt the FO would be stupid enough not to trade him in the off season. I don't know if the FO had any inkling Trent was going to do this prior to the draft. Yea..there may have been "issues" but the holdout caught the FO off guard. Penn IS a Cheaper and adequate solution until he get hurt or worn down. If you can't get a #1..then deal with it in March 2020...The team has MUCH bigger issues in 2019 than this. At least we/re not alone..jets/miami/giants....The Jets thing makes me reconsider Gregg...I'll pass on him for that showing alone...

  4. 2 hours ago, goskins10 said:


    Hmm..   I said even 1/3 of what Miami got for Tunsil. We know teams wanted him. So are you really willing to accept that with Houston giving 2 1sts and a 2nd for Tunsil a throw away player and 4th rd pick, the redskins could not have a gotten a 1st rd pick? It does not take an insiders view to know that the Redskins could have at least gotten that. Bruce could have moved him - and if he truly weer toxic why not move his ass for anything you can get? So again spare me theatrics.


    Trent a toxic commodity? Are you kidding? His teammates have never had a bad thing to say about the guy. He has been named captain year after year. All the young guys look up to him. He is one of the prime leaders in the clubhouse both by his relationships and his work ethic. 


    Toxic? That is nothing short of ridiculous. But thanks for he chuckle...  🙂  



    So you don't know what IF ANYTHING was offered....OK..point made and as for other FO's that would have to deal with TW's money demands..not the YES *I* would be hesitant to trade picks for him not knowing if he'd play under his current deal and/or what he would want as $$....


    chuckle all you want...EVERYTHING you said is opinion...just ask AP(Good friend) who needs the incentive $$ what he thinks of Trent's holdout. His interviews are not a full throat-ed support of his business partner...are they?

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  5. That is just trash football on D. You have guys signaling...LB's looking backwards to DB's while the Boys are SET at the line..everybody is waiving/patting....Just NOT SET in the D you are going to run. Looks like they are just over thinking this...too many coverage schemes...and they are ALL WRONG.


    I swear...they looked panicked. The D WAS supposed to be an asset...

  6. 52 minutes ago, goskins10 said:


    Please spare me the blindsided Bruce stuff. They have all already admitted they knew Trent was not happy as he and Bruce talked almost every day. But let's assume for a moment the poor innocent bruce was totally caught off guard and never knew his best player was unhappy. He had a chance to move him for a pretty good haul - even if they just got 1/3 of what Miami got for Tunsil after Trent made his intentions made. He did nothing. So **** bruce.  


    Again, in normal organizations, even if there is no new deal the fines are typically waived as a sign of good faith. But we are dealing with a mental moron so Bruce may intend to keep the fines in place. if I were Trent I would tell him to stick it in his ear. But that's just me. 

    You don't KNOW what was offered for Trent...RIGHT? If you much...all this is conjecture about the Texans "Offer". Seems the Texans would disclose what their offer was...why haven't they? *I* think Trent was/is a potential toxic commodity for any team..just my opinion

  7. 15 minutes ago, goskins10 said:


    If he does come back as they stated - typically those fines are waived in the renegotiated contract. So he will not owe the team anything. 

    I think if they were negotiating a new deal..that would have come out. I think Bruce is holding new contract..possible trade..but those fines will happen. Given Trent blindsided Bruce when his job may be on the line..why would he play nice...


  8. 4 hours ago, benskins26 said:

    With the lame duck coach, all the insane injuries and medical issues, TW, Bruce Allen, etc etc, this is the first time I truly just don’t care. I’ve said it before, many times, but I actually feel it. I no longer plan to prioritize a skins game.


    I’ve been putting off doing the annual negotiating with direct tv for Sunday ticket, and here I am the day before and I don’t think I care enough to even put the effort in for the phone call. My son has a hockey game at 345, and my wife took him last week but this week I think I’m just gonna go. It’s more fun. If I see the game, so be it. But I’m not going to make it a priority. It’s not fun anymore. 20+ years of this nonsense has killed my joy, and I’m not sure it’s capable of coming back.


    Sure, we have another RG3 type breakout season some day, I’d get on board the train and enjoy the fun of the moment. But i don’t think the days of me gettin hyped up, wearing gear, living in the game day thread, smoking a pork butt all day in buildup etc are ever coming back. I’m just kinda meh on the whole thing now. 


    ETA- the more I think about this, the more I recognize things that are different than even say 5 years ago. For example, I don’t do any of the superstitious stuff I used to do. I don’t know when that stopped, but I don’t do any of it anymore. 

    Dallas Week with George Allen and Tom Landry...Riggo/Riggo's rangers and Randy White...the whole town would go berserk. Now....meh...not even "Meh"..disgust...

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  9. 4 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:



    The whole FO thing hinges on Dan’s ability to hire an improvement on Bruce.  Which is far from a sure thing.

    I would *think* Dan would confer with Joe Gibbs on a move like that or someone with that level of Cred.... *I Hope*

  10. 52 minutes ago, JoggingGod said:

    Lol you guys are really falling for the tough head coach meme

    Just someone who hates to lose and shows it. Someone who will hold players accountable and motivate (yea..bounty gate was over the top but at least he thinks out of the box)

    All the HC should do is Hold the OC and DC accountable to the game plans and adjustments. I think Gregg can do that. Rex Ryan could if he gets away from the details/play calling and leads. I like Gruden's system and concepts....BUT he doesn't have the personality to scare/motivate coaches and players to excel. What sticks in my mind is Buddy Ryan punching Gilbride before halftime ...where is the passion?

  11. 1 hour ago, illone said:

    I didnt read every post in here, but I dont see very people defending the grudes.


    Who should be the next HC/DC?


    We missed the boat on McVay/Bowles so who else is out there?

    If it were me..I'd ask Gregg Williams for HC. Attitude is what we are missing...just devoid of aggression..everything if soft..playing probabilities like Madden. Not trying to scare people into mistakes. Rushing 3 for ANY REASON is soft play. A good QB with good receivers with enough time can make a completion as we saw 13/14 times. Most people would get a clue 3 outa 4. 13 outa 14 is just plain STUPID

  12. 7 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:


    E.  Sheehan today is saying he hears Jay is VERY frustrated with the coaching and performance of the defense.  Finlay saying he wouldn't be shocked if Manusky is seriously under the gun.



    Just think of ALL the draft capital Jay invested in the last 2 drafts on D when HE could have used those for OL and WR to HELP HIM...Ya..he has a right to be pissed. But again, all words..might as well stamp his feet and yell at the moon if he not going to do anything about it. Man up Jay....for once in your tenure here..Man up.

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  13. 1 hour ago, SkinsFTW said:


    It's probably not his decision. He complained about the defense last year too. Why would he say us and them if it was his moronic decision?


    I hope he has the authority!! If not..say so. That would be BS if he couldn't manage his staff. I think Jay thinks he a goner anyway so he's being a good guy to Manusky. If he needs Bruce or Dan to tell him to change DC then he should quit IMHO

  14. I just wonder if Gruden is so stubborn that he'll kiss his job goodby by keeping  Manusky as DC...when will he make the change? It needs to happen today! We saw the SAME old BS against the Eagles...and NOBODY has been held accountable..just words..weak words at that.


    Does anyone have any ears inside the team?? Yea Gruden's presser made a point of talking about the defensive failures..WHAT's he going to do about it?? Is Dallas the last chance for Manusky??

  15. 10 hours ago, BoycottEuphemisticFans said:

    i know everyone wants Manusky gone and Gruden gone and I understand that.  But as much attention should be given to the fact that they played an eventual SuperBowl contender on Sunday in the Eagles.  Its not Manusky's fault that he is employed by a horrific front office.  The Eagles are just much better equipped to succeed and their team?  I mean, look at it: 

    They have a franchise QB who when healthy is one of the best

    They have a TE, who unlike in Washington, always is on the field and catches a 100+ balls a year.  You cant even LET Jordan Reed catch that many because it would be detrimental to his health.  

    They have DeSean Jackson, Alshon Jeffrey......they hit you with a wave of backs with perhaps the NFL's best offensive line.  And a coach that knows how to coach them.  I mean, Jesus, give the credit first to Philly, that is an EXTREMELY TOUGH team to play especially in their park.

    Exactly WHY you put PRESSURE on Wentz..lots..all directions. Don't let him sit back and play. WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO LOOSE???? You force errors..

    Manusky doesn't understand that for some STUPID reason..he thinks this is Madden. Change things up..go all out. Especially when the eagles got things rolling in the 1st series. I swear Manusky would stroke out if he called a blitz on 3rd and long..


    Gotta think..if you are going to loose to a BETTER Team playing Straight..WHY play straight...geeezzzz

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  16. Didn't see the game ( They had it on Fox and switched to the RAMS as the last second) but sure sounds like Manusky and his Frickin PREVENT Defense blitzing right....soft bump at LOS...why can't you press Jackson at the LOS..the dude is 2 inches tall...geez

    Man, I liked him as a player...but his D sucks. Give me Rex, Give me a chipmonk..just get rid of Manusky. Anybody interview him?


    Glad I did other stuff Sunday....wake me when we get a new DC

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  17. 31 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:


    I am concerned about that too...


    If that's his plan, I would love the Redskins to just sit him out or not activate him for those final games. Because if he sits out 10 games and comes back just to move the needle to the final year of his contract, **** that ****. What a dick. 

    THIS..Keep him front getting any contact on him to claim being hurt and trade him in the off season. And YES conditioning drills all weeks he is here. Don't put him in a game, period!

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  18. 11 hours ago, KillBill26 said:

    That would be an awkward situation, but they would have to accept him and keep him on the 53.  They definitely shouldn't cut him just so he goes away, bc you are forfeiting any compensation and you are giving the holdout exactly what he wanted.   I guess he could exaggerate an existing ailment ie knee and claim to be done for the season, that way he gets paid and get his credit for a season.  Then he would be facing off with the medical staff again.   That could get interesting.

    I see haynesworth conditioning tests if Trent pulls that....just sayin

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