The Hangman- C_Hanburger

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    Welcome to the Redskins Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    Waiting to see him play in preseason...lots of good press! I just don't believe that the media is not gen'ing this up for a QB battle just for "clicks". The Washington Press sucks
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    IF that is all that was done..why claim the medical issue. Why did this get into the Media...I already posted they should do some compensation adjustment for Trent. I'd like to know who (whose camp) put the medical stuff out there if this was only about Money. Who created the flap....or was it the media making chit up. That is not a fair negotiation IMHO
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    I just keep thinking of the News the other day of the 911 1st Responders on the Hill asking for *some* help in covering their medical bills. Guys on a City Salary who ran into collapsing buildings KNOWING of all the chemicals and asbestos in the air that cause cancer. The construction people knee deep in that toxic crap...and then I read this *stuff* about how much risk these players take and NEED to be compensated for that RISK... Just Sayin
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    But you can't. I think EVERYONE would agree..lets do *something* extra for Trent regarding money. *I* think had he approached it that way...nobody would be complaining. Also, IF there is Medical Staff incompetency, then name names and situations involved and again people can assess the validity. BUT it APPEARS the two have been convoluted with NO RESOLUTION unless Trent gets a release from his contract for the next 2 years and that is an unplanned critical shortage for the Skins. THAT is not fair to the Skins who have compensated Trent VERY HIGH during his tenure. So unless Trent gives specifics..I am siding with the Skins as being the aggrieved party here. We all have seen accusations that have been a fabrication. Why do *some* people reflexively blame Bruce. HE is NOT the Doctor and HE has to assess the impact to the team before granting ANY contract relief. It's frigging June guys..there is all kinds of time to resolve this. Bruce has kept his conversations with Trent Confidential...Trent has NOT I just don't like the lopsidedness of this whole thing.
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Get a Grip
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    There is something to be said about trust too. I am willing to wait until training camp (while looking for talent via trade at the right price for the Skins). If left with a choice of a bad trade deal for letting Trent sit. Let him sit. The Skins HAVE to STOP this type of extortion. We got screwed by KC and set a perception that the Skins can be had. Trust is shot as far as I can see. Lets see some Pittsburgh Steeler back bone here. If they can do it with Bell and Brown..2 legit superstars back to back....we need to grow a pair. Time for this franchise to make a statement IMHO
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    It IS the Matrix. Deja Vu all over again
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    I have ! I have ! Uh OH!!!
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Obvious you didn't read my statement I see. I SAID KC would have to provide space 3Mil to cover the cost..12+3=15 which would make Trent happy. Without KC willingness to cut a deal and restructure (for his OWN financial benefit in 2020 in negotiating a new contract) THEN you would be right. BUT the WAY I premised the scenario would work. We won't know anything until Trent makes a move. If Trent wants/demands a TRADE, what is so off the wall that he'd maneuver to go to a contender with his good friend AND get paid? Vikings need a LT..you don't deny that do you?
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Top 2 words WHAT IF Last 3 words Think About it If you don't think a player will lobby another player then YOU are naive. Trent and KC are/were tight. Get a grip
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Agreed. But their starting LT is 12 Mil now so they ONLY have to come up with what..2-3mil+ That is where I theorized that KC would do something with his cap # to allow that so that HE will benefit from his better performance with Trent watching his blind side so NEXT YEAR he can recoup those $$ negotiating an extension in his last contract year. If KC sucks this year because of a bad OL, he could loose ALLOT of future $$ negotiation his next contract That's why I said this could be a Win-Win-Win (Skins/Zimmer/KC) It's no slam dunk but it is a Business Case to be argued I think. I'm not arguing that a #2 is the going rate...I'm arguing that desperation can bump that up some so don't go in at a low #
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    They are talking about cutting the 2nd year player who is their "starter". Our asking price is our asking price. How we arrived at it does not concern the Vikings. IF we have the leverage, use it and get what we can
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Starting negotiation price. Selling points is KC knows and trusts Trent. They have ALLOT invested in KC and we got nada for him so looking for some comp+ isn't too outrageous. Zimmer is in a WIN now so he *may* be desperate to save KC and his job. They got NADA an LT now. Their LT is 12 mil this season, Trent wants 14mil....not a big makeup/risk for big upside. If you believe Zimmer's job is on the line and KC enters next year negotiating for an extension..Both could free up cap space in 2019. We'd have the leverage I would think. The best deal is likely to come from the Vikings if we HAVE to part with Trent. Asking vs getting. I just don't know if the Skins would do it with the Vikings at any price... It's all speculation without knowing the "truth". This *could* be a win-win for us and Trent and KC
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    So you wouldn't call the vikings and offer Trent for their LT and a #1 and #2 in 2020...Also, why waste your time?? https://riggosrag.com/2019/06/06/redskins-3-teams-that-could-trade-for-trent-williams-after-reported-trade-demand/2/ Dumb huh...I just checked and it's all over the place as a possibility
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Trent should come out and address this then. I hope it's media BS but the longer he stays silent the more speculation will occur and sour the team/fans. That could be the plan though..make playing here a non starter...who knows. Something is going on that is not good
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    WHAT IF: Kirk: "Hey Trent...I'm getting my head handed to me here! I Need you real bad" Trent: " I have 2 years left on my Contract" Kirk "No Problem, The FO is a bunch of pansies and they will fold if you hit them with a complaint about being mistreated and disrespected. Demand a Trade and they will fold for pennies" Trent Fine but you guys can't afford me Kirk. I I don't perform here, I'll be toast. I'll redo my contract and cover the extra couple Mil https://www.vikings.com/news/2018-vikings-position-recap-offensive-line https://thevikingage.com/2019/05/26/minnesota-vikings-reiff-surprise-cut-2019/ Think about it....
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    And WE win with Draft Picks commensurate with his career OR he sits out and loses 13-14mil AT LEAST. Put him on did not report to camp and use his 13mil cap
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    These guys make MILLIONS. They can afford to get 2nd opinions and/or HIRE their own doctor. It is THEIR Body..they should act accordingly. If I got an opinion that effected my health significantly..I world corroborate it. We've all done it. I'm callin BS. Just looking for a foil for leverage IMHO
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-kirk-cousins-wont-sign-a-long-term-deal-as-long-as-bruce-allen-is-with-redskins/ Substitute Bruce for the (fill in the blank). Find a foil and leverage it to get your desired results PPS. Where is the complaint to the Union Rep. Seems like this is a CBA issue
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    I agree 100% . I LIKE Trent. I would have preferred he came out himself with this complaint AFTER registering it with the FO . Now that it is all over the place, he SHOULD make a statement. IF not...then I'll just assume his agent is following Cousins roadmap of making up a transgression claim so as to leverage a release or trade where the Skins get little to no compensation. If this is Coisins 2.0, the FO should send a message..if you don't show..you won't play- ANYWHERE for the term of your contract. I *hope* Bruce doesn't falter and get a BS Draft Choice in a trade. Get GOOD Compensation..TRADE if Trent wants out
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    This is BS. Trent needs to go on record with his gripe. Cousins pulled the tactic to extort a release. Stop this now! Enough already! Trent is a WELL PAID PLAYER not a baby that needs coddling. If you wanted to be traded the time was before the draft to ask for it. Thanks Cousins 2.0
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Whose job would it be to communicate with Trent about how he's being taken care of? Seriously, The Coach (s), Allen, Snyder, Someone in HR or Medical Staff...Seems there would be a specific person in medical to be in contact 24/7 with Players in treatment??? Did Trent want Snyder to send flowers???? Did Snyder send flowers???
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Callahan did pretty good with scrubs. Let Trent consider sitting and loosing 13mil PLUS. Would he have to sit for the 2 years till his contact expires if we don't trade him? Just wondering.. Anyway...I'll wait until training camp before I consider casting aspersions...
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Stay the course and compensate for 2 years a "reasonable" offer like I said before. If things go south..trade for a #1 WR and get some "Average/GOOD" Blocking FA TE's or convert talent to a TE and RUN the "F" out of the ball. Quick outs and play smash mouth ball control and let the D give you short fields. You telling me Trent can block better than a Good LT and TE together....with our RB's we should be able to play short field ball with a 2 TE set. Turn the D loose. What the hell..that would be watchable football. Pay Trent a little more recognizing his past contributions..but don't pay a ransom. We don't NEED a aging Pro Bowl LT that may/may not stay healthy at a cap crippling cost. Bruce will pay hardball *I* think...We don't need a "Cousins II"
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    New development: Trent Williams wants to be traded/released

    Depends on how long and guaranteed money. Give him top 3 money for the two years left in his contract- NO guarantee with an injury provision that he be on the field X number of games..... In two years we can negotiate. I hate these contract BS..I like Trent but with the CAP hit for Alex I wouldn't go "Hog" wild. The question is will Trent sit out if he doesn't get what he wants. At his age..I don't think so. BUT As a REDSKIN that played hurt and well..give him a commensurate bump for the next 2 years. THAT won't kill the CAP.