The Hangman- C_Hanburger

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    Extending Season to 18 games

    I just saw that the Players Association said the expansion to 18 games would be bad for players. I started to think about that and came up with some reasons as to why the Players Union should embrace that IF: 1) Rosters are expanded from 53 players to X number (63?) 2) Limits on quarters a player can play (say 16 games). That would allow some playing time fro 2nd tier and coaches to prove themselves 3) Keep players from playing hurt with #1 being said Seems the union has some leverage to get concessions and expand it's membership What am I missing?? Allot more money and 2 less preseason games to risk injury I'd support it if I was a player if they get something in return beside game checks
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    Serious Question: Do you regret letting Cousins go?

    Gruden would still be here and we'd continue to see the pansy play and pampering that got us NADA. Gruden's input MADE the Cousins debacle. Should have traded him after the 1st tag. So getting rid of Cousins and Gruden is a 2fer
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Ya..thats the way I read it too. 2 years on his contract for next year Trade. I can't see how such a simple fraud could be executed on the NFL...too easy
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    The growth..cancer or no..is a NON Football Injury. No way is that caused by playing ball or football contact. Like appendicitis...s*it happens THAT and he could have had that checked way before now....
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    The ONLY precedent on this type of issue was Galloway. The arbiter ruled as 8 games player = accrual IN THAT CASE. There is no legal verbiage in the CBA that says 8 games. Trent is relying on a single finding as case law....Another arbitration hearing could go against HIM with these facts..who knows but that 8 game BS is a crap shoot from what I'm reading. Could go either way and Dan has better lawyers and a league that doesn't like this trend in player actions https://www.nytimes.com/2000/02/11/sports/nfl-roundup-seattle-galloway-wins-but-may-be-traded.html
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    YUP..GO FOR IT! After all, Danny loves to play in the court system! He wins there (Billionaires have more fun). Also, as was said the League wants this to stop..if not in the courts..then the new CBA
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Correct me if I'm wrong but Clev didn't trade for any LT at the deadline so the NEED is still there in the off season. Nothing has changed really...Trent will STILL be Trade bait in March. ES was asking for a 1st and a Player...that's funny..you condemn the FO for doing your bidding... I want to see how this plays out on accrual. Lets see some hard ball so in the OS Trent will still have 2 full contract years as trade value.
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Which if done he would NOT get the 1 yr accrual. That is what I suggested a # of pages back..suspension for conduct detrimental and not put him on the roster. That's my tack on how to deal with it (if legal)
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    What is stopping Danny from suing for breach of contract? Is there an arbitration clause in the CBA?
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    I thought for a long time that Jay's offense was VERY predictable and the DC's were feasting on it. Glad he's gone but the damage was done. That and the talent really sucks. Doctson (if not on IR) is better than Richardson..especially in Red Zone attempts.
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    For NO money! Fines taken from game checks. Every minor infraction = fines. Conduct detrimental to team suspension. Daily conditioning drills...anything and everything the Coach can throw at him. THEN do it again next year..screw the draft pick 26bcdc4b-f017-4a4f-b124-a82a57a56b48.mp4
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    I'm wondering if Trent has to PASS a Physical and meet some weight/fitness metrics. What happens if he's fat as a toad and not in football shape. Is simple reporting enough? Or does he have to be "evaluated"?? Seems like in a CBA, simply showing up is not something the owners would accept...just thinking
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    For God's sake trade the guy...don't repeat Cousins. Trent's words mean nothing here, look at the actions and think REPEAT.... Don't be Cousin'd AGAIN...
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    If it's not a first..wait for off season.
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Now THAT would be stupid.......IF TRUE Dan and Bruce just may be saying FU to the media, Skins Fans who trash him at every opportunity and they really don't care about the "Franchise" anymore. Hell, Dan is making money putting trash on the field. I hate to think an owner "hates" his team's fan base that much...but if he's as petty as you all claim. Who knows. IF they are rejecting a 1st for Trent...that's my only response to that. *I* HOPE that is not true. I'd be through with this team if that is shown to be true. You won't get better than a 1st (1-32) after the season. Trade his ass already..(assuming Trent will accept a trade and not continue to hold out)
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Maybe you don't see the value in waiting..but I see value in waiting to get a #1 this season. A 2 or 3 would be my asking price in the off season. Collins came here in the prime of his career...and *I* don't think a player who refuses to play, abrogates a contract, is hurt all the time and blind sides a franchise is as valuable as you seem to think. It might be that other GM's see that and say hell no to a #1. So we'll wait for the off season
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    DING DING DING. He got his guaranteed money for the contract he signed. So he was paid. The contract he got was lucrative at the time. The rest of your statement is (to use your term) ridiculous. All those factors are in the negotiation and settlement at the time. Short career span is a norm in the NFL. Don't try and tell me TW was not compensated for the last 2 years of injury plagued performance. Give me a break..
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Exactly, Trent can withhold his services, the FO can withhold pay. Leverage is subjective. The FO's asking price has not been met so Trent hasn't been traded, simple. This team is such a trash fire that arguing over Trent's trade value is like fleas arguing over a dead dog. This team/organization is not worth fretting about anymore.
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Honor his contract. A VERY Lucrative contract when he signed it. He's been paid VERY WELL for his services. The TEAM planned on having him and thus drafted accordingly. By most of the comments on here..he's been injured/not playing up to his pay check the last 2 years...ES words not mine break agreements he signed and was paid UP FRONT? Where do you draw the line? which players are OK to break contracts. How can a team plan? If you think it's OK for all 53 players to abdicate on their contracts at their discretion, then you are the sucker not me. It's not Oct 29 4PM yet either
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    I'm waiting to see what happens at or before 10/29 4pm. And you don't "understand" his reaction? Someone pisses in your corn flakes and you are OK with that? Examples/Precedents have value and influence people who may think about taking a similar path. If positive reinforcement fails, negative reinforcement is the other option. Problem is...you guys blame Bruce more...*I* blame Trent more in THIS holdout. I blame Bruce/Scouts/Jay for the offensive trash they've put on the field. Too many High picks gone south.
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Again, the Browns said the cost was too high...so Bruce gave them a price. I would think all inquires that were a #3 or worse would be rebuffed. I wish somebody from the Texans would come out and say it..if they hate Bruce that much in the league I would think that would leak out... I'm not defending Bruce, Just saying if I can't get better than a 3rd before Oct 29, then wait till March. I'm no fan of Bruce but Trent put the team in a bad situation with his gambit. We are not going anywhere for a while (years) by the looks of this *whole* offense. Payback at least gives Bruce a little satisfaction. I can understand that response...especially if he thinks he's gone next year (Just like Vinny, Bruce has allot of pressure being put on him) Even Dan has to see we are NOT CLOSE to a winning team after today. Defense...yea..Offense no way. The Oline is a mess, Richardson is a joke, AD is OLD and even if Smith comes back 100% the QB situation sucks. Trent's "value" won't solve all those holes but his "example" may dissuade future contract breakers....there is a value to that.
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Patriots 1st = 2nd Round Equiv. Too early in August to accept that. We DON'T know what Texans and Browns offered (except the Browns thought the ASKING pick# was too High, so we are negotiating. A 3 is too low because we *should* at least get a 3 in the off season.) You guys are slamming the FO on conjecture. If we can't get better than a 3..wait till spring. Makes sense to me at least
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    OK..I'll bite...NAME a serious offer...what was IT???
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    Browns also said price too steep..so which is it. If all they are offering is a 3rd..hell no..wait till March. Up the pick..then lets talk..maybe
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    !!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

    The more Trent stays at home watching TV the more the weed looks awful tempting...I said earlier that Trent wouldn't accept a trade without a new deal that replaces the lost money. If a 3 is all that the Browns have offered...wait for March. If he reports, look for any reason to suspend for conduct detrimental to the team...Don't play him and keep him away from the locker room