The Hangman- C_Hanburger

So what happens when he HAS to report to get an accrual and he refuses to play...does that change the equation? If he doesn't play..the year rolls over? I don't think it would be that easy....BUT he could be relegated to carrying Bruce's clip board and fetching coffee....WTF the whole team will be blown up next year so Trent's value will be minimized in the scheme of things...

And RG3 had nothing to do with his failures...got it. Shanny at least had discipline..but he screwed the pooch on his DC's. That's what killed him. Not sure if Bruce was responsible for Hasslett, but It was discussed that Haz was a Bruce guy..so I agree Bruce is still the lynch pin of these failures

Needed to be done/ This Oh Shucks attitude had to go. How about Manusky???

They still ban signs at the stadium...thats how they got rid of Vinny...

Leaks happen all the time....it was leaked that NE supposedly offered their 1st..where is the leak that the Texan's offered two 1sts for Trent....That is big news...BTW the Texans Tunsil went down to injury pretty quickly.. IF Bruce turned down that high of draft package..he deserves all the criticism. I don't trash people for rumors...even Bruce

Again,,there is time on the clock. IF someone offered a couple of 1st's...it WOULD have been leaked and Bruce would be a fool. But that hasn't happened..the market has strengthened/grown for Trent not diminished and the supply has not grown for a LT. There is plenty of logic to wait for the deadline. If there is no 1st in the offers..wait till off season is not a bad approach

Put it up here then.....exactly. Show us the Texan's offer to Bruce for Trent. It doesn't exist..all conjecture

No we don't know. The right trade numbers have not materialized for a trade now scenario. Why leave time on the clock when the demand will only grow. You *may* be able to claim that after the trade deadline..but there is NO evidence ANY offers contained a 1st rounder (Maybe NE but I haven't seen that either)

Not all.....how much Cr*p was dished out to those of us who dared speak about his short comings...It got personal and vindictive

Maybe..if its to a scrub team..not a contender or even close or in NFC...with a no trade clause attached. No way a 3rd for a anywhere near good team...

For the money he was looking for, it was a no brainer. We all saw the type of player he was/is. I wanted him traded 2 drafts prior.....why Bruce let himself get played is beyond me...*maybe* Bruce was influenced too much by Jay and that BS is now why Bruce cuts Jay outa player decisions. I don't trust Jay anymore to have ANY input..Dead Man Walking as far as I'm concerned. They all need to go..at least then fans can have *some* hope of the franchise coming back. I won't see it in my life span unfortunately

I don't want these "teams" , owner, FO and coaches to spoil my memories of the Redskins. These are not THE Redskins...not even the "Replacements". I've tuned them out 90% and just check the score and stop that at halftime. I was getting way too upset watching these guys where it effected my attitude on other activities. Like stopping smoking...it was hard but I kicked the habit... I go back to 1969....it took allot to get me not to care. I really wonder if this isn't Danny payback for all the media and fan derision...how could a old fan as he has claimed tolerate this **** show??

I think this team has been soft for most/all of Jay's tenure. They are coached soft..worried about injuries..not playing in preseason..playing not to get hurt..but the players GET hurt because of conditioning..LACK of real practice...Jay is Soft on his coaches.. After today..he's just mailing it in..maybe be has a beef with Bruce and is being tempestuous.. If they just got rid of all of them and lets see what the Asst Coaches can do. Jay has LOST this team..

Well..thats it for me until next season...longer if Jay or Manusky is around...see ya'll next year.

And the pressure builds...Pretty soon I'm going to call for some crow to be eaten...If Oakland beats Kirk...lets lay the table :) https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27662172/an-84m-game-manager-vikings-trying-figure-kirk-cousins

Ya..THAT is BS..if you have a suspect secondary..you PRESSURE!! Don't let the QB settle and pick them apart...playing soft zones is the most stupid game plan for that that I can imagine. I don't understand this statement at all...it proves to me they are clueless and probably as predictable as the sun coming up. Too many "perfect O Calls" for what the D runs...Dak's run for one..no containment

Good point...that's very true. I should have considered that

I don't disagree about trading him NOW..if you can. I just don't want to see him go for a 3rd round or worse. LT's are going down ..if you get a chance go for it..just don't get fleeced. If they knew TW was this adamant prior to the draft..yea..major screw up. I sure a heck don't know the facts here

I doubt the FO would be stupid enough not to trade him in the off season. I don't know if the FO had any inkling Trent was going to do this prior to the draft. Yea..there may have been "issues" but the holdout caught the FO off guard. Penn IS a Cheaper and adequate solution until he get hurt or worn down. If you can't get a #1..then deal with it in March 2020...The team has MUCH bigger issues in 2019 than this. At least we/re not alone..jets/miami/giants....The Jets thing makes me reconsider Gregg...I'll pass on him for that showing alone...

On IR

So you don't know what IF ANYTHING was offered....OK..point made and as for Toxic..it other FO's that would have to deal with TW's money demands..not the players...so YES *I* would be hesitant to trade picks for him not knowing if he'd play under his current deal and/or what he would want as $$.... chuckle all you want...EVERYTHING you said is opinion...just ask AP(Good friend) who needs the incentive $$ what he thinks of Trent's holdout. His interviews are not a full throat-ed support of his business partner...are they?

So is the team getting boo'd yet??

That is just trash football on D. You have guys signaling...LB's looking backwards to DB's while the Boys are SET at the line..everybody is waiving/patting....Just NOT SET in the D you are going to run. Looks like they are just over thinking this...too many coverage schemes...and they are ALL WRONG. I swear...they looked panicked. The D WAS supposed to be an asset...

Undisciplined D...all the way.Trash football on D

THAT is some nice play calling!! Wow...Keep it up...don't let off the gas! PLEASE!!