The Hangman- C_Hanburger

Diggs is gone, and he gets an extension....seems their front office has developed a case of Vinny-itis.

RR's leverage just blew off the roof. I hope TW like the taste of crow. I still think we shouldn't extend him, and trade him early in the season when injuries happen. TW 2019 antics have cost him big..he should fire his agent

Best value for TW will be early season when contending clubs LTs are injured. No rush to move him. Stupid to let him go for anything worse than a mid round 2. If Trent needs the money, he will show and he will play to max his leverage. IF he PLAYS GOOD, then the Skins should let him negotiate a trade with the above limits as long as he shows up and plays. If he pulls the BS again, DNR him and he doesn't accrue a year. Do it again 2021..and so on. I'd be in no hurry to accommodate him without VERY Good compensation.

George Allen's "OTHG" with Talbert/Hanburger/Fisher and Billy/Sonny/Brown and DALLAS WEEKS. Watched the Miami perfect season Super Bowl win against the Skins..

How much of this was Gruden's soft camps and no preseason play. I don't think our players were in football shape at ALL under Gruden and Co. Hopefully we got people looking at the off season conditioning of the players and the mini camps/training camps will have some practices WITH football moves and cuts at better than 50% speed. All these injuries were a redskins trend that can't be ignored. I'm hopeful

Only until we trade his ass.

Can you spell Haynesworth conditioning tests

I would consider putting him on the Did Not Report list, then let him hold out and wait into the season for injury to raise his value to other teams. Let him sit out just like last year only this time get the best value in season 2020. Draft and plan for him not to be here. Don't let him pull a KC. He won't count against the cap until he reports...right? Make a statement and sit his ass for another year if we can't get a good draft pick this draft.

Gruden instilled NO discipline and garnered NO respect from the players (ie) Playing hard. That is why he failed and all that had an impact on Haskins.

Realistically, Trent's departure won't impact the 2020 team "that" much IMHO. Haskins survived with Penn and since the Skins are not sold on Haskins we can draft a QB AFTER Chase...develop him and play Haskns to see what he has playing with *some* adversity-see if he elevates the team. Try and get Penn back or draft a LT and put him in. Skins need to continue to purge malcontents and cry babies. KC and Williams were two of the worse...finish the job. Dunbar can be sent packing too. Get Chase and lean on the D for a year

Richardson never materialized for the $$. That was a bust. Was that a Bruce or Jay FU

Can Reed be moved to WR and be productive against CB's vs getting beat to hell by LB's. He has the speed and size it "seems to me" to complement that group. Anybody give some reasons he wouldn't be VERY productive outside?? I know the $$ /cap hit will be a issue...but just the capability of Reed is what I'm interested in...

Hopefully this FO isn't so frugal that they "forget" insurance plans to keep this from happening again. Insurance has nothing to do with the CAP so WHY scrimp on that?????

Is it position or player that defines dominance. I think a player that excels in moving around the line and into coverage with athleticism is more important that positional excellence. Guys like LT, Reggie White to today's Ray Lewis, Von Miller, Bosa. You get solid performances from team players and have an ACE that moves and creates mismatches along the line and disrupts traditional blocking concepts. That s why I like Chase Young regardless of trade up offers. With the talent we have now and some coverage/safety additions The D should give the offense short field position and turnover positi

We weren't a Superbowl Contender EVER in the last decade. Vikes WERE a serious contender 2017 that had a serviceable QB at low cost. They could gave brought in a GOOD vet as insurance and kept the band together and added in 2018. They went all in for 2018 when they kept the 2017 team pretty much intact and gambled on Cousins. It was a one shot deal given the CAP. Strategically, it was pretty stupid... Beat me to it..

Like I said CAP HELL. The Vikes screwed the pooch on KC. It will go down as one of the stupidest moves ever at that price.

Sweat had the tools to be a #1 prospect and fell to us. Again, did we use him right or try to get him to drop into cover at the NFL level right off. Yes, he didn't contain sometimes but you can't ignore his 4.4 speed. Learn technique and no RB will beat him to the sideline. He reminds me of Manley...I'm OK with using that 2nd then vs now. Even with Position # difference. Sweat COULD be a Monster

So, about Norman. Did the Skins NOT play him to his strengths? Seems he was playing off with a cushion vs at the line jamming receivers using his size like he did with the Panthers. Can he be rahab'd and brought back into form. I would guess he'd have to renegotiate *some* or could he be worth the risk. Did we try to fit him in a scheme that he was not suited for AGAIN??? When he left the Panthers, it wasn't Rivera that rescinded the FT. Wonder if RR and Norman have talked... (ps) It was safety play where he got burnt on the TD's I remember. Communication problems..did

Does he have a no trade clause? I wonder...Vikes "could" trade him and some picks to move up and pick a QB in this quality QB draft. Vikes are in CAP hell. Talking 8-8 in the forums. Cousins could have a suitor (ex) Dallas with Dak asking 35Mil - Brady in NE what happens with him. I could see a trade and picks VS another 3 years of Kirk-ness value. That Green Bay game did the same thing The Giant Game did you us but reverse. Gave *some* hope/plausibility that Kirk can win big consistently. (fools gold..eject..eject..eject)

Boy..I sure got under your skin.. AND to close too... RG3 paid dearly for his transgressions...Out of football...failed at Browns..out of football..backup in Ravens..EARNING diddly squat. I was VERY hard on RG3. *I* think he paid the price. KC is still sucking millions at a CAP and producing NOTHING. Again, Keenam has a better Playoff record. I just don't like grifters. So..lets take it to ATN as Cousins is NOT a Redskin. TG

RR has a right to pick his QB especially with the Qb's in this year's draft. Haskins may be another "mistake" in the scheme of things but I haven't felt THIS positive about the skins in a long time. I like Del Rio and RR as much as I liked the Shanny/Gibbs 2 hires. I am looking forward to the draft and what plays out

Not executing the coach's plan repeatedly on his own initiative, complaining about being chosen in the 4th by the Skins, eating up the publicity about driving his grandmas Van when making millions of dollars...YOU LIKE THAT in a game that shouldn't have gotten to that point... yea...I call that a diva. But you are right RG3 was a Diva's Diva. No argument there

You said KC wasn't a Diva Not who was the bigger Diva. Really? Very binary/one dimensional argument. Both can be true...right?

Gruden said on numerous occasions KC refused to go down field and open up the passing game (Zimmer said the same thing about downfield passes in his pressser) " the plays where Cousins declined to take open shots downfield in " I think we had some called," said Viking coach Mike Zimmer when ... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-divisional-playoffs-kirk-cousins-fails-to-lift-vikings-putting-emphasis-on-teams-passing-limitations/ We wasted 2 years *hoping* to get him to negotiate and resign him. It takes 2 to tango. Bruce and KC . Go look at the "hat

Not if you look at it in totality. Is he worth 30mil 16% cap space and elevate the performance of the team to compensate for reduced talent because of his salary. He is also a heart attack waiting to happen for fans...No fun watching him play. The only good thing he did as a Redskins QB was get the FO and Gruden Fired IMHO