The Hangman- C_Hanburger

Again, the Browns said the cost was too high...so Bruce gave them a price. I would think all inquires that were a #3 or worse would be rebuffed. I wish somebody from the Texans would come out and say it..if they hate Bruce that much in the league I would think that would leak out... I'm not defending Bruce, Just saying if I can't get better than a 3rd before Oct 29, then wait till March. I'm no fan of Bruce but Trent put the team in a bad situation with his gambit. We are not going anywhere for a while (years) by the looks of this *whole* offense. Payback at least gives Bruce a little satisfaction. I can understand that response...especially if he thinks he's gone next year (Just like Vinny, Bruce has allot of pressure being put on him) Even Dan has to see we are NOT CLOSE to a winning team after today. Defense...yea..Offense no way. The Oline is a mess, Richardson is a joke, AD is OLD and even if Smith comes back 100% the QB situation sucks. Trent's "value" won't solve all those holes but his "example" may dissuade future contract breakers....there is a value to that.

Patriots 1st = 2nd Round Equiv. Too early in August to accept that. We DON'T know what Texans and Browns offered (except the Browns thought the ASKING pick# was too High, so we are negotiating. A 3 is too low because we *should* at least get a 3 in the off season.) You guys are slamming the FO on conjecture. If we can't get better than a 3..wait till spring. Makes sense to me at least

OK..I'll bite...NAME a serious offer...what was IT???

Browns also said price too steep..so which is it. If all they are offering is a 3rd..hell no..wait till March. Up the pick..then lets talk..maybe

The more Trent stays at home watching TV the more the weed looks awful tempting...I said earlier that Trent wouldn't accept a trade without a new deal that replaces the lost money. If a 3 is all that the Browns have offered...wait for March. If he reports, look for any reason to suspend for conduct detrimental to the team...Don't play him and keep him away from the locker room

I don't think he'd survive longer..he'd be whimpering to Zimmer to take him out. WHAT do we have to lose..right! I sure pay to watch that and cheer EVERY DOWN Danny *could* incentivize that I'm sure

*I* would like to see Manusky send the house EVERY Down..screw the score and lay wood on Kirk for 45 minutes. Make sure he is hit every play.

Yup..but I didn't say that the FO was right all or even most the time and I disagree with ALLOT they have done/not done..like trading cousins after the 2nd Tag. I'm just saying I agree with what is happening right NOW with Trent. We NEED to be compensated and not get Cousined...That's my point here. We spent ALLOT of Capital on D the last couple years and it seems to have been unproductive..is that the FO, Coaches or Players. *I* personally think Jay failed this club with his Oh shucks discipline. The FO gave him better than average talent IMHO

No...Smart GM's play leverage to maximize the benefit. You play the deadline, especially if there are multiple suitors. Conceding the game with time on the clock is what stupid coaches (Jay) and GM's do. This FO hatred is just irrational sometimes..

And still have Jay and Manusky.....I've had enough of that thanks (assuming Manusky is gone 2020...

You do it until you can't. Plus = TOP and keeping other offense off the field. Rests your D, keeps em fresh. No down side if you are getting +3 yards per rush. We have "new" QB's with receivers and timing is off..Case wasn't leading the receivers on crossing routes..too many behind the receiver. I have nothing wrong on planning to run the ball &screens with occasional deep ball. Richardson is/has been useless..would like to see someone who WANTs to get open out there

Don't put him on the field..have him be the guy with the gatoraide bottles running on and off the field spraying into players mouths

So what happens when he HAS to report to get an accrual and he refuses to play...does that change the equation? If he doesn't play..the year rolls over? I don't think it would be that easy....BUT he could be relegated to carrying Bruce's clip board and fetching coffee....WTF the whole team will be blown up next year so Trent's value will be minimized in the scheme of things...

And RG3 had nothing to do with his failures...got it. Shanny at least had discipline..but he screwed the pooch on his DC's. That's what killed him. Not sure if Bruce was responsible for Hasslett, but It was discussed that Haz was a Bruce guy..so I agree Bruce is still the lynch pin of these failures

Needed to be done/ This Oh Shucks attitude had to go. How about Manusky???

They still ban signs at the stadium...thats how they got rid of Vinny...

Leaks happen all the time....it was leaked that NE supposedly offered their 1st..where is the leak that the Texan's offered two 1sts for Trent....That is big news...BTW the Texans Tunsil went down to injury pretty quickly.. IF Bruce turned down that high of draft package..he deserves all the criticism. I don't trash people for rumors...even Bruce

Again,,there is time on the clock. IF someone offered a couple of 1st's...it WOULD have been leaked and Bruce would be a fool. But that hasn't happened..the market has strengthened/grown for Trent not diminished and the supply has not grown for a LT. There is plenty of logic to wait for the deadline. If there is no 1st in the offers..wait till off season is not a bad approach

Put it up here then.....exactly. Show us the Texan's offer to Bruce for Trent. It doesn't exist..all conjecture

No we don't know. The right trade numbers have not materialized for a trade now scenario. Why leave time on the clock when the demand will only grow. You *may* be able to claim that after the trade deadline..but there is NO evidence ANY offers contained a 1st rounder (Maybe NE but I haven't seen that either)

Not all.....how much Cr*p was dished out to those of us who dared speak about his short comings...It got personal and vindictive

Maybe..if its to a scrub team..not a contender or even close or in NFC...with a no trade clause attached. No way a 3rd for a anywhere near good team...

For the money he was looking for, it was a no brainer. We all saw the type of player he was/is. I wanted him traded 2 drafts prior.....why Bruce let himself get played is beyond me...*maybe* Bruce was influenced too much by Jay and that BS is now why Bruce cuts Jay outa player decisions. I don't trust Jay anymore to have ANY input..Dead Man Walking as far as I'm concerned. They all need to go..at least then fans can have *some* hope of the franchise coming back. I won't see it in my life span unfortunately

I don't want these "teams" , owner, FO and coaches to spoil my memories of the Redskins. These are not THE Redskins...not even the "Replacements". I've tuned them out 90% and just check the score and stop that at halftime. I was getting way too upset watching these guys where it effected my attitude on other activities. Like stopping smoking...it was hard but I kicked the habit... I go back to 1969....it took allot to get me not to care. I really wonder if this isn't Danny payback for all the media and fan derision...how could a old fan as he has claimed tolerate this **** show??

I think this team has been soft for most/all of Jay's tenure. They are coached soft..worried about injuries..not playing in preseason..playing not to get hurt..but the players GET hurt because of conditioning..LACK of real practice...Jay is Soft on his coaches.. After today..he's just mailing it in..maybe be has a beef with Bruce and is being tempestuous.. If they just got rid of all of them and lets see what the Asst Coaches can do. Jay has LOST this team..