The Hangman- C_Hanburger

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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    I'd offer the HC job..that's what I meant..not DC. I always liked Gregg. He's OK in Clev as DC but I think he'd be "available" for the Skins HC IF Dan and him can put that BS behind them both. I heard Dan didn't like his assessment of the FO...well..was Gregg right or not?
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    It may sound crazy and I'm sure *some* will give me s*&T but I'd like to see Greg Williams invited back. At LEAST he has the attitude and with this D talent I think it will be fun to watch. I *HOPE* Danny didn't burn that bridge. We need MEAN and Greg has it in spades
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    This was so predictable unfortunately. Win-lose-win-lose 8-8. Jay seems to just rest on victories and lays a huge egg on loses. The "I take the Blame" has gotten old. To quote Homer Simpson "Duh". Just WHY is Washington so hard to coach up?? Blown overages, looking like JV and then you get Allen making light of the embarrassment.. I'm done with Jay. He's doesn't engender respect from the team to step it up above mediocrity. Â Time to move on from him. There is young talent on the team..time to act before all of them are contaminated with being "Blah" Â Honestly..even if he puts some wins together and places in the NFC East...move on. He just does NOT INSPIRE ANY winning attitudes. Â Â
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    Way to answer the BELL!!! Now..lets build on that attitude. Lets do it against Saints!!! KUDOS TEAM!!
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    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    Norv was and always will be a Cowboy and to my recollection didn't beat the Cowboys..never wanted him here
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    What gets me is Jay DID Coach exceptionally well through all the injuries last year. He had the team playing hard EVERY WEEK. So I though..ok, here we go!!! !st game YEA!!! Here we go!!! Then I said on here before the Colts game that I wanted to see consecutive effort..then I'd be sold.. So here comes the Colts game and like the player said "it was low energy". I have been reading and I find NOWHERE where the No Energy statement was explained. That whole narrative seems to have died or been killed by the team. Why did the team come out flat? Jay should be asked that and the questioner should not accept "The Colts were more motivated". Well WHY weren't The Skins More Motivated??? I sure hope that was a REAL wakeup call and we'll see a motivated Team Sunday. I don't think we'll win but I hope we play hard for 45 minutes. Losing to a more talented team is no disgrace, laying down or sleep walking is. That is all I'm saying. COACH, PLEASE LIGHT A FIRE in your players!!
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    I fully understand that. I was a manager too..eventually I wanted out of managing people because it wore me out being "fair". Who got raises, who got fired. So I realized I couldn't continue to perform in that capacity and enjoy *my* life. That is a valid reason to STOP managing. So if Gruden sees he is not getting the most out of his team with his style and the players are asking for discipline, why not turn the keys over to someone else. His job is not to manage to mediocrity but to excel. So *I* don't understand staying with his status quo when it's hurting the team, sales revenue and his reputation??? The old performance plan critique...time to step your game up or be gone. Everybody has that discussion at some point in their life. The "Peter Principle" appears to have been met here. I supported Jay...more than most. I still think he has skills that are valuable and COULD excel IF he held people responsible. Like was said..play people who work hard..to hell with the score..send a message. He sees it on tape..WR's standing still when it's a running play away from them..not fighting through a block to get open/conceding to early. MISSING ASSIGNMENTS/ROUTES Players who miss assignments repeatedly..need to sit..publicly..let the player explain why. Gotta change this culture somehow..it's cancerous to our younger players
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    Agree 1000% especially the 1st sentence. So if *we* see it or *think* we see it..are we WRONG? Gruden has to hear this criticism..the players definitely feel it because you don't throw the coach under the bus with "Lack of Energy" comments unless you are trying to tell the coach to wake the F up! It is such a common theme throughout his tenure..why has he not responded? Look at Brady's comments..he wanted a "divorce" from Belichick but praises him as a coach and feels he gets his teams to play hard (aka RESPECT). You can be a fair hard coach and still have the players respect you..I just don't get it why Gruden doesn't pick this up when he knows his job is on the line. *My* only answer is that he just not that enthused to being a head coach...I dunno???
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    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    YA..I was a FANATIC for along time( 1972 to Gibbs 2.0). My fondest memory was when The Skins beat the hell outa the Rams on Monday night football. It was Nov 21, opening day of deer season. I was camping on top of a mountain in George Washington National Forest. I drove my Jeep up an old logging trail for 4 hours to the top and setup camp that Saturday. Had my best friends with me. We hunted that morning and I got back to camp and setup an old 13" Black and White TV battery operated (DC ) Had a backup car battery to make sure I had enough power..had a HELL of a time getting reception..hung wire to the antenna and trees and finally got a grainy picture. Watched that game outside in 30degree temps till after midnight...had to get out at 5AM to get to my hunting spot. My yells were echoing in the mountain valleys with each score... That's my best memory (including Miami Super Bowl w/ Riggins). Used to be central to my weekends. I really miss that feeling...but like most I've accepted this franchise is a Ghost of the past and have replaced them with other activities (nowhere near the passion of the Old Skins ere but sure beats watching this team under achieve year after year. https://www.nytimes.com/1983/11/21/sports/redskins-trounce-rams.html
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    Except the stadium is emptying making HIM look bad (Again) and his profit from the stadium is being effected. Thats how Vinny was let go and Dan was allot closer to Vinny than Bruce or Jay
  11. You don't buy a race car and peel out in 4th gear. THIS is on Gruden I am REALLY sorry to finally accept. Not Alex. Unless Alex calls the plays
  12. People getting down on Alex right now is just plain wrong. The TEAM did exactly like I feared..thought they were better than they were and Gruden's gam plan sucked and he didn't change it up..being a QB he should have been able to counter once he saw the Colts adjustments.. But you can't coach half effort..should have pulled some players and sat their azz on the bench
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    I saw one play that sums up the attitude of this team. It was a running play to the right 1st qtr. The WR on the Left at the snap of the ball just stood up and watched the play. The DB was in a crouch waiting for something..then he just stood up too...I don't know if it was Doctson or not..anybody else see that??? Wish I could watch the game and get a #
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    OK..so Gruden doesn't think he should motivate...Just PLAY the Players who are Hungry and sit the rest..trade em next year (if you are still here) but get those cancers off the team..sheesh they even have AP making excuses for them...THAT is low. It's put up or shut up time..maybe Jay doesn't want to be HC, just like Mike wanted to be fired...
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    Just read the Times piece and I'm madder than ever https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/16/redskins-blame-low-energy-colts-loss/ LOW ENERGY!!!! This has been a recurring theme with the Redskins not just with Gruden but since Gibbs quit....Honestly, can anyone who has played the sport in College or above explain what Peterson is saying???? Is it JUST LAZY??? WTH?? I believe it, we ALL see it..again and again. It's like a cancer that had been eating this team forever.. Seriously, is it the DC location and all the "activities" the athletes are partaking of? I've said it so many time that Gruden is NOT a disciplinarian. If people are NOT TRYING and you and the team knows it..BENCH EM..make it public and humiliating and if you lose SO WHAT....gotta get control of this teams soul...right now it's SOFT..
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    This is what I was afraid of..Typical "Redskin" game after a nice win. Gruden better light a fire in his belly or I'm going to join the chorus saying enough is enough...I didn't see the game..just followed on IPhone..looks like Norman was taken to the woodshed 1st half. 9 points is disgraceful..Lucky Philly lost and one of 2 NFCE will loose and make the division even. This has GOT to Stop..go get Gorden or something if the WR can't get open...
  17. So by extension, I would extrapolate the opposing teams game plan this team differently with less exotic blitzes and maybe keep more pass defense talent in the game allowing the run game to tick up vs blitzes and pass rush pressure given Alex has seen/will see and adapt and burn the D more often than the D will get to Alex. Cousins could be rattled (especially in the Red Zone) which WAS one of my two complaints..he pressed when he didn't need to and didn't press (slow starter) at beginning of games..very risk adverse until desperation took hold and he had to do something. So I don't think the gunslinger moniker totally fits just MHO BUT I think he could have been and will be coached out of those tendencies and be very good in the end.
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    "There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know. Reid got to playoffs and lost GOT FIRED aka a winning coach......Duh Schottenheimer got to playoffs and lost GOT FIRED aka a winning coach......Duh Marv Lewis winning coach and people want to fire him because of his playoff record All of the above franchises evaluated How Good the Losses were as well as how Good the Wins were. Take your Patriots...Josh McDaniels was a loser- LOST in Denver but here he is heir to the King.. Why don't you put up a poll and see how many think Franchises evaluate losses (good or bad) just like they evaluate wins and don't base a coach retention decision only on losses How did you like your loser coaches game plan yesterday ? Thats ok, I'm done..clearly.."what we have here is a failure to communicate"
  19. But "we were the Washington Redskins" joke of the east....with a 33yo RB just signed off the street. Do you really think they spent allot of time with us vs gruden who never won an opener... This was a statement game for us....
  20. I was, given Gruden has been game planning all preseason for this ONE Game. Now he has 1 week for the Colts...I am anxious to see continuity and another targeted game plan to stop Luck..can he bring a motivated prepared team 2 weeks in a row...*I* think he will and he's over the hump as a coach.
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    FYI--they still have to perform. YA..McVay did last year..now there is tape AND they mortgaged the farm in FA's so they should show this year. It will be interesting to see the records over 5 years as compared to Jay (McVay HAD an already STACKED Roster to start). Don't get me wrong...*I* wanted Kyle but given the crap fest over Mike, RG3 messed THAT up for US. McVay...ya bad timing but all HOF coaches were OC/DC at some point so we had a known HC in 3rd year..I'm glad they didn't pull another Snyder and cut Jay's legs off like the others...that showed Organizational growth for once and if it cost us McVay..I'm OK with that So is Marv Lewis a bad HC? He hasn't won a playoff game either?
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    Andy Reid for his entire Eagles Career Martin Schottenheimer with KC Good but not good enough..plenty of GOOD Coaches are recycled through the NFL The question is absurd...every franchise evaluates " how well the team competed in their losses"? ". It's called Loosing or NOT loosing the team..if they fight hard for the coach and are simply out classed..the coach did his job. It's the FO that has to supply the talent NOT the coach..get real
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    Evaluating Jay Gruden in 2018

    We did it YOUR way for MOST of the Redskins history under Snyder and look at how your solution worked. THAT is absurb. Knee jerk reactions are an emotional response not an objective evaluation. All your "potential" coaches carry their own risk/reward. Gruden is GREAT at Offense and and BAD at picking his supporting defensive cast aka Haslett, Smith. I am hoping he's developed in that area. I like Manusky.. I am giving him another year to see improvement...is that so absurd...geez Make your case for his replacement..specifically who, and how long we should give him before you have another emotional peak???
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    MMQB: How Su'a Cravens fell apart..

    Cravens just went on IR http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000957685/article/injuries-broncos-place-sua-cravens-knee-on-ir never mind..already posted