Silvernon

Teams don't always want the same guy, and teams further down have to offer the world, which rarely happens. There is a history of bad trades (RG3) to remind them and recent examples (Panthers) of the dangers of giving up a ton. Look at the Eagles with Jalen. That could be the Bears. They won some games with him once he returned from injury. They have drafted well under the current regime, so they can really upgrade the team these next 1-2 drafts and then mortgage the future for a top QB if needed via draft or trade. Optimizes value of current assets.

This right here. Most realistic outcome imo. Give up the top 2nd rounder. Not a steep price, at all. Bears can collect the 2nd rounder, and then get a future 1st+ to trade down with a team looking for a QB. Sets them up with two 1sts and two 2nd in 2025, if Fields isn't the guy for the short-term. Chicago has always got a running style, play-action team. I think it could work.

Ok, but we know the Lions were regarded as one of worst drafting teams. Millen has a brutal record. Stafford and Calvin lifted up the Lions for years. I have a hard time with those comparisons where the players were elite and the FO failed to be even average. Barry Sanders famously.

That's how I feel, unlike the Chase Young draft. MHJ would be a game changer for this O.

Did he say whether he is a FS? I haven't watched the last couple of games.

The top 2 teams aren't trading their picks. They're going QB. It cost a couple legs and an arm to trade up to #2 last time, so let's just not.

The rules are collectively bargained, so there's nothing wrong with playing by the rules.

This team has no fight left. Top 5 is assured

I think you draft a C in Round 5-6 with the potential for starting. Chase Roullier style. I think there may be a handful this year to choose from. Do the same thing next year, and if one of those Day 3 guys becomes the starting C then you slide Stromberg over to LG. You draft your OTs high in Day 1-2, but use day 3 for the interior - maybe day 2 for RG.

I'm not concerned about RT. Having two early 2nds solves that with a competent scouting department. Hopefully that is true for MLB if they keep the other 2nd rounder, but I think I would rather spend big bucks in FA. So tired of it being a weak point.

You don't trade out of the top 10. Want to trade from pick 4-5 to 8-9? That might get you a future 1st in the deal, and if so maybe. Maybe that's worth it. I feel like every time this happens I am arguing for keeping the pick and picking the elite tools. 1) Most wanted to trade down a few picks rather than pick Trent who was a consensus reach and seen as a RT or G at the next level. 2) Traded down for Kerrigan rather than pick Watt 3) Olave vs Dotson (yes, they would have had to pick Howell earlier) As high as you can get and then don't screw up. You need stars. Get your consensus All-Pro player. The senior bowl 1v1s and combine are important filters for me. You watch the cut-ups, and then see the metrics, and go back to the video. Identifying the top 2 QBs in each class is incredibly important, but then it should be pretty easy to see who the top 3 players are on each side of the ball. That's the beauty of the top 10. You really shouldn't mess it up because the laymen wouldn't.

I don't see it happening. They probably won't cut Wiley until after next year, so he might move to LG. Gates is a huge dead cap too, so unfortunately he stays too. Leno - Wiley - Ricky/Day 2 - Cosmi - Top 40 pick for RT Lucas - Day 2 OL - Daniels - Day 3 C/G - Gates Hence why I think they should trade up for a RT rather than wait. Might even get a LT there. And, if you an keep one of the early 2nds you could grab your starting RT too. Get a playmaker with the top 7 pick. Trade back into the 1st round for a LT. Draft a starting RT in the 2nd round. That's 3 players, and they have 5 of the top 100. But they're stuck with a few players for another year, namely Wiley and Gates.

If that is your argument for DeSean, then Moss was the same thing. Every once in a while he could change a game with a couple of catches, famously the Comeback versus the Cowboys. Getting a big physical WR has never been so important with how the league has transitioned. Likely 'settling' for Bowers after Harrison goes 3 or 4OA.

I'm not a fan of trading down. Maybe 1/20 drafts are bad enough that you won't get one of your 5 best players with a top 5 pick, provided you make the correct decision. Would I be opposed to trading down within the top 10? Not necessarily as this draft is probably strong enough at the top...but this could be the Kerrigan/Watt dilemma all over again. Quality > Quantity. Witherspoon went 5th overall last year and was the best player on that Seahawks D when they played this team. Thibodeaux Ja'Mar Chase Tua/Herbert Devin White Bradley Chubb If you aren't terrible, you can find an All-Pro.

I don't see it happening, but I would love to see EB take over and they get stomped in the games against weak teams post bye week. Show me who still shines in the garbage, besides Tress Way. Full clean-out of the staff is the acceptable outcome, so I would like to see strong individual performance among the losses. Always pumped for a top 5 pick. Hopefully they don't screw it up this time, because you should get an All-Pro with that pick(aka Bowers).

Harris saying that Rivera is going to stay until the end of the year buying something unforeseeable is not surprising. I don't think we've seen anything from either of the coordinators to suggest that they are a good head coach for the rest of the year. Smells like a full clean house. Front office and the entire coaching staff.

I'm happy to be in the 5-10 range to take out the urge to draft the second ranked QB and get a weapon for Sam. Two top picks in the 2nd round are so interesting and impacts the first pick. You can trade both 2nds to get into the mid-late teens to draft a WR or LT. Trade the WSH 2nd and 3rd for late 1st Rnd to draft a G/T or WR Draft OT with CHI 2nd and OG with WAS 2nd Draft WR and MLB My ideal 2nd round is a starting G/T and starting MLB. Gives you the option to go RB/WR and IOL for the 3rd round. Need to come away with 3 starters (and 1 star) with those top 40 picks and I would rather trade up with one of the 2nds than down.

I honestly think you could go either path and it would be okay. Either you keep Ron's crew through the rest of the season and give yourself more time to evaluate what your next steps are, particularly if you feel that the options are outside of the building. If you know that the head coach that you're going to have is in a different organization, and he will bring in his own people, you don't need to give EB a look as a head coach. But letting go of a coach is a great tool to assess the players. They would still be some games left to play and you can see who progresses and steps up knowing that there is an organizational shift and they are playing for future bosses. And at the same time, you may have a better impression of who is working best by keeping the existing staff and seeing who continues to work to the end knowing it is all for naught.

I'd rather 4 and hope Harrison drops. Even if Howell isn't the guy, I think you build through this draft and circle back in 2 years if needed when there is the next window to blow it up.

I really don't like the idea of drafting a right tackle in the top 8 picks. For me, it's quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher and x factors. The x factors this year appear to be: Harrison Bowers Kool-Aid

I was thinking they hang on the rest of the way because you need to completely clean house. FO and coaching staff can all go on indefinite vacation together. I'm definitely in the fire EB camp too. They can get a better OC with what Sam has shown.

You're not going to be able to run across the field with receivers, so these guys need to learn how to pass off. All the best defenses do it. They do need to change from JDR, however these players need to get better. St Juste is definitely on that list.

You can't fault the defense for the performance today. Six turnovers is absolutely ridiculous, and I'm shocked they didn't give up more points. Again this is a situation where the Giants Martindale is better than EB. This team has been brutal about putting the ball on the ground, particularly the running backs. Just too many instances of giving the opposing team a short field. I thought the front 6/7 played one of their better games. Both Allen and Payne were collapsing the pocket, KJ Henry looks to be contributing, and Jamin working downhill was great to see.

I think everyone has concluded that the FO and coaching staff will be cleared out. Just my feeling that Magic is going to want an improved O; and they hired that analytics guy who said TE may be the most undervalued position...

I love the prospect of a top 10 pick and the ability to go playmaker or OT. Get in the top 7 and I think you could get Bowers who is an x factor. Bowers fits the mould of a prototypical modern TE. Then follow up with OL and MLB on Day 2. I love the idea of getting the second or third best lineman, but give me a top 2-3 playmaker instead.