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Not a big Jon Allen fan but he did put up a Pro Bowl season, something Chase never did and never will do. Sweat was also better, one could argue Payne as well. Again outside of 1/2 of Young's rookie season where he was their best defensive player. But that still puts him 4rh on the DL IMO. I hear from informed Niners fans on another board. They all agree that they didn't get what they expected from CY and although it was a great gamble they agree that we got the better of that trade.

You are correct, if you had said "1/2 of his rookie season..." But for the rest of the time he was here he was certainly not the best defensive linemen.

I don't think it's wrong to want a QB who can actually deliver in January.

Thanks for this, I have always been in the Maye camp. But I still believe he does not have the athletic ability of Daniels or the 2 playing yesterday. As tempting as it is to get a player like that I'm sorry I just can't erase the images of Lamar and Kyle Murray in the playoffs.

Agreed which is why I want him. But he can't escape like we saw Lamar escape, or make the magical plays like Mahomes. OK scratch that last part, nobody has ever made some of the plays Mahomes has made.

During the first quarter of the game yesterday I saw Mahomes and Jackson doing amazing athletic things and said to myself "screw Drake Maye, I want a QB who can do these things". Then January Jackson returned and I'm back wanting the more traditional pocket passer.

Virtually every team has a back, or 2, as good or better than Brian Robinson IMO. We don't need to compare him to Gibbs, compare him to the starter on every other team and I doubt you will find many where he is clearly better.

I was thinking about that, Chase Young with a ring will be insufferable but I have to root for the Niners.

I'll continue to say it. Our fans overrated B Rob because he makes a few good runs. But if you really look at the starting RBs around the league he is below average.

I am so ready to move on from Gibson

Thanks for the breakdown, seems to me when I watch them Montgomery gets twice as many carries so this is surprising.

My issue is how many downs does Gibbs actually play? He just doesn't make the impact that players at other positions make because they are playing far more snaps. And again you can get somebody similar to him, or at least close, in a later round.

Yeah as dynamic as Gibbs can be I will always believe he was overdrafted. As you say you can find similar, or at least 85% of the production, without spending a mid-first round draft pick.

That was a really good point about the Texans playing in a really weak division, honestly I had not thought of that. But they did win a playoff game which shows they are legit. Put me in the camp that believes with better coaching and great personnel folks we can turn this around fairly quickly, assuming the QB hits. Which of course is the key to everything.

Yeah I think we are all confident that Peters can find players later in the draft. I'd love a trade back or 2 and give them even morel bullets. .

I would like to think our new people are smart enough not to panic when there is a run on OTs. If that happens then better players at other positions are falling. So rather than trade assets to move up to reach for the 9th rated tackle I hope they sit tight and follow their board. This team needs good players and upgrades at virtually every position.

Foresight is making a move for the future. And that is exactly what they did. I am hardly nit picking, I gave his stats for his entire 11 games in SF and they suck. This was obviously the right move and you have not made one argument that debates that, other then referencing the way things used to be here. This is a new regime so basing your opinion on what they did in the past shows a lack of football knowledge and common sense. I'm done with you.

if you think they won't add edge players for next season, when it really matters, you would be wrong. Again. Games in November when you are 3-5 and going nowhere don't really matter now do they? You continue to claim I am ignoring your comments as you continue to ignore the main point of this trade, points I have been making that you have ignored. Keeping an unproductive player that you will lose at the end of the year in a lost season makes zero sense. You continue to live in the present or recent past and not the future. And that is really the most important part.. For you somehow it was important to have a player who can set the edge (even though Chase Young can't do that). For what exactly in a lost season?. . What are you basing that on? Surely not his play in SF where he hadn't done dick. Then what? Again as I have carefully explained they would either lose him for possibly nothing or overpay for a DL who is not even good enough to be called a JAG.

I really like the Niners. Love the way they play on both sides of the ball, they have a great defense and they don't throw 30 five yard passes. They have receivers on 10-15 yard patterns between the numbers which results in bigger, more exciting plays. I want Kyle to finally get a ring. How can you not root for Brock Purdy? But I hope it's next year. Chase Young with a ring will be insufferable. He will prance around like he's Michael Phelps when we all know he had little to do with it.

Every piece of evidence we have shows that Chase Young did nothing in SF and it was a smart move. It's OK to be wrong, others in the thread were man enough to do that. But when you can't admit it and continue to lecture others on their football knowledge, well that's where come off looking like a clown.

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You are just being stubborn as you attempt to talk down to me. We are not talking about the Commanders we are talking about Chase Young. The guy who can't get to the QB and can't set the edge. Prove me wrong, show me where Chase Young is doing "a DE's job'. What exactly is he doing?

Yeah to not suck. In Chase's case it's to get to the QB and hold the edge. He can't get to the QB and a rookie WR prevented him from setting the edge. I keep bumping as we get new information. It's OK to be wrong, which you clearly are here despite your claims. The stats and tape don't lie. If you didn't lecture me and others about your vastly superior football knowledge I may have let it go. Niners fans have acknowledged Chase didn't work out. Our resident Commanders hater can't do the same,

It is actually stunning that some actually think we made a mistake in trading this clown. He had every opportunity to show what he can do in a great situation in SF. He has now played 10 games and has 13 tackles and 2.5 sacks. For that we were supposed to pay the man. LOL.