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😂 guys call down. No need to cut half the roster right now. We need a big squad going into the off-season program...people get hurt. It's not like you can just sign a UDFA who is better. That's just what is annoying. Ron is a competition guy but he didn't let the OTs compete and cut down our depth at one of the most important positions. He takes a risk. Expecting the new to be better then the old (something about the grass always being greener at the neighbours).

It is ridiculous to cut him and have a solid starting tackle leave for nothing. See one team getting a injury at left tackle and trading a 4th for a sub par back up to fill that spot.

Unnecessary risk. Before this off-season we had very questionable LT situation. We brought in a rookie and a one year deal vet. Now we also take away our solid starting RT...when it's still early off-season. If rookie is not ready or 1 guy gets injured your depth is totally gone. There is no reason to make this move now.

I'm still a bit sad that we needed a new longsnapper....

These rounds is just swinging and hope you got something. I always like trades there that get you more swings. Rookie camp try outs are also limited this year (covid max), so having a big draft class will benefit a team.

Need pick? Was he best guy available? I like to just swing in players from the 4th and see if any work out. It's not bad pick. Just zero excitement.

Sexy Rexy Grossman should have played in this O 😉

The Dutch recap day 2 I'm pleasantly surprised by the first year we are really running the draft with Ron and all his lieutenants. Not with some former regime guys. After today I'm 100% sure what they want to do. They value athletic (speed) highly and go for the more athletic upside pick instead of the more saver pick. At day 2 there was always a saver position player imo but with a lower ceiling. In previous years we might have taken the more solid team captain prospect, you know he is going to produce can be on the field early...but also knew he is not going to be a star. I like that we now have the guts to go for the high ceiling guys. Might not work out but you take a chance at a dominant player. Pick by pick Cosmi - OT - Texas: I must be honest I did not know much myself about this guy, so had to look it up. Looks like this guy has all the tools to be a good starting tackle just needs to become stronger and have better technique. But his ceiling seems pretty high if he can get it together. I do not 100% agree with going for this type of OT because I think we have a need now. This guy should not start this year. But they take the short term loss for the long term potential better player. St-Just - CB - Minnesota: Love this pick. I think this guy really shined in the Senior bowl and you could just see his ability to go 1v1 with all kinds of WRs. His short area quickness is really good for a longer corner. Basically he has everything you want physically in a press corner only again...bit raw on his technique. You really need to develop him. But if you find a way to do. Then you found a starting press man outside corner in round 3. That's great value. But we take the risk that he might not develop and just never is starting material. Brown - WR - NC: This is what we talked about in on this forum. This year's WR class is deep. Based on production and skill set Brown could be a second round WR in other years. Finding a guy like that in the second half of 3 is great. I like that this guy has a lot of speed to take the top of D's but is totally not soft. He is a competitive guy, willing blocker and will take the hit in the middle of the field. A lot of times these type of guys lack that mentality. His route running needs more work but like the other picks. You can teach/coach him up on that. The pick just surprises me a bit, will tell why in the next paragraph. Final note. Last year I could not really discover what our O wanted to be. I also felt like the O Turner was running in Carolina was also not fully what he wanted. The picks of this year, last year and FA tells me a bit more. We really want to stretch the field and be really dynamic. We are loading up at WRs who force you to keep your safeties deep and are a threat to go deep every play. You don't want Terry, Curtis or Dynami run 1v1 without Safety help. So that stretches out the field deep. Them we have guys like Gibson who can do a lot of damage with screens. Get outside the tackles. They stretch the field horizontally. You can't just let your average speed LBer run sideline to sideline with Gibson. So you force their D to play a bit wider. Because the D needs to respect our team vertically and horizontally you create a lot of space in the middle. So you will see we will get "easy" short yardage in the middle and always be that threat to punish you when you start defending the middle more. Because then we open up our explosive outside plays.

Yes lets grab the exception 😂

-------- About the QB discussion. Elite D with Fitzpatrick won't win us the Super Bowl. We might ride into the playoffs but look at Super Bowl winning QBs. You don't win with an average one. I think if we get in position to draft one. You take him. Because it's just a numbers game. For every amazing QB there are also amazing failures. If you keep hitting, you might find one. Next year's QB class is really really questionable. I can give you 6 potential guys but non has star power written over him. So skipping this year, bad class next year. 2023 our D will be different because of contracts.

This has been a weird offseason. Without all the pre draft events it's hard to gain Intel for media members and nobody really knows what teams gonna do with players that skipped a full year of football development. I think more then ever the draft boards of teams will be very different. That makes a very fun and unpredictable draft. Personally I think we skip oline in the first. There is good depth and I think there will be a little run on them before our pick. That will make a premier D player drop to us. I see us pick one of these: Parsons, Horn, Moehrig or Owusu.

This is why I would say trade down. The second tier LB you get is the same as you get end first/top second. But I just don't see for what player people are going to trade up too. Maybe a RB? To stay in front of the Steelers and grab the top RB.

With all the QBs going early, could we see Parsons maybe drop? You got 5 QBs, 2 OT, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 DB and 1 DE who could all go before him. We are not that far off then. If we want to go LB. I think there is enough talent at the end of one vs need...that you can slide to the back end of round 1 and still pick one.

Can we please add Sundberg to the title and make a big round of applause for beeing there for 12 years. Dude has been part of this rollercoaster for 12 years! Respect for that

But he is ultimate flash player. You remember the NFL redzone highlights. You don't remember the Texans struggle to let him preform like that on a weekly bases. That he was not even on the field because of injuries.

Move the new stadium to Virginia Beach? For the beach vibes

Depends on who we sign to offset it.

Why is it so quite? We lost 2 D starters made one move for a QB. Team with almost the most cap. Are we saving stuff to resign our Dline later? I expected us to be more buyers. Take some risk. Cap not spend is wasted resources. Feels like we might go cheap veterans again. Third waive of signings

Looks like we really wanted to add some weight to our FO. We bring in guys with experience but do be honest...is it working? I don't see how this collective group of new co-workers can find an amazing work relation during covid in such a short time before FA and draft. Why didn't we make changes in August. After most of the scouting season. Feels a bit odd.

Don't believe any draft interest in Feb till April. Just saying. But I do agree that we will bring in a veteran. To compete and have a solid stable plan. We don't need him to win games.

Put me in the price to high group. I feel we need more talent and you know you are going to miss on a couple of picks...So trading away a first and third in the same draft could be really annoying. I don't feel our roster is close enough for that move.

But let's be honest... Are we this close we need to go all in on a QB? If feel like not...

No no the report seems to be that our deal was better THIS year. So I think, including Goff, gave the Lions a better total deal. But our deal was better in the first year. They chose the one that gave them a better return in the long run. Add this to my comment and we got our answer. Don't forget that this draft year is hard because of a lack of games and pre draft stuff. Less scouting events.

I really need to rewatch this game. Feel like I missed a lot because it was a pretty fun game to watch casual. But need to do deep dive in oline stuff and DB coverage off ball. I feel that this is your typical player that is a pure baller but when you send him to the combine people we jump over him...because his size and timed speed are not top end. I'm not sure where I would a lot him but no combine might help him.

Don't get me wrong. But we hired a minority again. I hate all the silly Rooney style rules. But I respect that we look to be one of the most diverse franchises in the nfl. That's something I can be proud of.