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  1. 22 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

    well, it isn’t american airlines that are having their 737 maxes falling from the sky... it’s third world countries.... so maybe you got a point, @Fergasun


    Right, they must have paid for the Boeing Gold Plan where you get notified of fatal flaws in Boeing's avionics.


    A reasonable and rational person would conclude that a flaw should be FIXED by the manufacturer rather than insist that people all around the globe get trained on how to react to the known fatal flaw.


    For ****s sake if this was a car you just bought you'd scream for a recall and warranty work. But with Boeing your blame the car owner and hired driver.


    THAT is stupid thinking, and you're doing stupid thinking.

  2. 8 hours ago, twa said:


    C'mon, even those pilots were not that....or were they????

    They way you make it sound they were.


    The true tell about who is to blame is how Boeing has bedn forced to respond since this came to light.


    it was a pilot training issue does the whole fleet get grounded?


    it was a pilot training issue does Boeing begin a recall to install safety warning lights etc?


    it was a pilot training issue do airlines cancel billions in plane orders?


    Yet YOU keep trying to aleviate the blame from Boeing when the entire industry and world governments say you're wrong.

    6 hours ago, Fergasun said:

    ... and why these airlines didnt feel the need for training? FAA and Boeing certificiation.

    That was my point that these pilots weren't trained because BOEING never said it was necessary or critical.

  3. Just now, NoCalMike said:

    Conservatives don't respect military service unless those members follow the company line when they are done with their service.  "Swift Boat Captains For Truth"  remember them?  Or the purple  band-aids to mock John Kerry's war time injury, during the 2004 quickly military service ceases to be something to be held in respect if the member of the military is not a right-wing zealot. 

    Oh, but they stand to honor our service members and veterans during the National Anthem. So there's that. This constant next level bull**** is one of the many reasons I left the GOP. They take clowning to the next level

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  4. 7 hours ago, visionary said:


    Ok, can we go back and discuss the part about the pilots not being trained?

    Maybe Boeing should start packaging their services like, 

    Gold Package: Get to where you're going

    Silver Package: You'll land more often than not

    Bronze Package: Meh 5050 at best.

    1 minute ago, Fergasun said:

    ... and why these airlines didnt feel the need for training? FAA and Boeing certificiation.

    This is a black and white issue, I don't understand where the "blame the victim" syndrome is coming from.

    Look at WHO it is coming from. He started with the presupposition that the pilots were to blame and nothing has changed.

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  5. 1 hour ago, Larry said:


    Well, the question of who to blame does force one to choose between blaming


    1). A minimum wage employee or an untrained home cook. Or


    2). A giant corporation who made big political donations, to get the laws changed to allow them to contaminate chicken with small quantities of salmonella, resulting in the number of contaminated chickens going from 0.5% to 92%, so that they could replace hundreds of career workers with robots. And who then put a disclaimer on the package reminding people to make sure that they kill the bacteria themselves. 


    Which did you expect him to choose. 


    I bet I know!

  6. 1 hour ago, twa said:


    **** happens....literally.


    ignoring it can kill folk you are paid to serve..

    You don't get to say "**** happens" like it's accidental that nearly the entire food chain is contaminated because of these processors.

    1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said:


    Navy Dave makes ASF look like a buddhist monk.


    Thems just jokes @AsburySkinsFan ;) 

    I'd be a good Buddihist monk...Shaolin maybe so I can kick the **** out of people on occasion.

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  7. 5 minutes ago, Mooka said:


    Asbury served as the tailgate's twa for a while. This board used to lean heavy right. 


    I'd say Asbury's taken 10times the lumps as twa dealing with the likes of Sarge and co on the daily. 

    Man those were the days when twa was the reasonable one.

    1 minute ago, twa said:


    Is it a problem trained chefs should be able to address?

    So the solution to a contaminated food production in your mind does not involve NOT contaminating the food?

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  8. 19 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

    @AsburySkinsFan I wanted to let you know I attempted to watch the video.  I even got a few minutes in when I had a realization.  We were arguing over the definition of FBW when that didn't really matter to the overall point.  So I propose a ceasefire and we jointly agree to refocus on the real concern, that @twa doesn't know what he's talking about.


    Fair enough.

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  9. 5 minutes ago, Larry said:


    A great deal of the meat sold in the US contains salmonella. (Thanks to Frank Perdue, and Carter's USDA.)  However, if the chicken is cooked enough, the cook can kill the salmonella. 


    If somebody gets food poisioning, is the fault the person who put the poison in the chicken, or the person who failed to fix the problem?

    The person who failed to fix the problem.

    but in America we have been conditioned to believe that companies aren't responsible for their products.

    1 minute ago, twa said:


    properly trained chefs cook the meat thoroughly and use proper sanitary measures.


    it is even recommended on the labels I think. :pint:

    Thoroughly according to who?

    the processors who insist that food be cooked to high temps because they refuse to take steps to avoid contamination.

    But you ignore where the contaminants come from and place the blame on the chef.

  10. 28 minutes ago, Larry said:




    Your post contradicts itself. No other reading is necessary to make this statement. 


    And as far as I'm aware, no one has granted you the authority to tell me what to do

    IF you and others would have bothered to read the article you would have discovered that Boeing did a piss poor job at providing manuals, and simulators to train in.

    but no ya'll read headlines and don't put things in context.

    And I have every authority to tell you what to do, I just don't have the authority to make you do it.

    However, if you had you wouldn't look silly.

  11. 4 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

    I don’t see why you can’t say that boeing has some blame, as does the airline, as do the pilots.  

    Go back and READ my comments.

    My beef is with @twa because when he first heard about these crashes his comment was that it was due to pilots sleeping at the wheel.

    Since then he's spent his time moving the goalposts and shifting blame away from Boeing.

    Their **** was broke they knew it they didn't fix it.