AsburySkinsFan

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  1. AsburySkinsFan

    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    Wait, have we reached the strange moment when a tweet from a President violates the profanity filter? I'm so proud. POTUS can say bull**** but mine gets censored. I hate this ****, and I hope he chokes on a ****ing McDonald's cheeseburger.
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    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    So Assange the self anointed prophet of truth was himself knowingly lying and spreading a false conspiracy theory? If that's your hero then I suspect you were deprived of oxygen as a child.
  3. AsburySkinsFan

    AV Club: Pornhub wants you to get horny for saving bees

    Yup, still hypothetically not interested in bees.
  4. AsburySkinsFan

    AV Club: Pornhub wants you to get horny for saving bees

    Look, IF I were to go to pornhub, I wouldn't be interested in bees.
  5. Bernie better not be the nominee. The last thing we need is a fringe candidate with an out of touch base.
  6. Like what would it be for GOPers? I mean he could skull **** the corpse of Barbara Bush on live tv and it wouldn't move the needle.
  7. I would write my thoughts, but I'd get a ban. Instead I'll just toss your posts over with all the other MAGA trash that shows up and blows out as soon as you realize that Faux News has not prepared you to deal with the facts.
  8. You would have defended Nixon. let that sink in
  9. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    Ok, see this is the type of stuff I'm talking about. The cross is still on the altar, never mind that the church just burned and will cost massive amounts of money and decades to restore, but yeah a rock didn't land there, so that's proof of god. Where was god when the fire started?
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    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    I've had all of it, formative and engaging general revelation as well as intense and transformational moments of special revelation. I can tell you from own experience that there was no "crisis of faith", my process was more like healing after an injury, one day you didn't need the sling another you stopped taking pain meds. You can't remember exactly when you stopped but looking back...
  11. AsburySkinsFan

    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    Trump is always on the wrong side of everything.
  12. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    I wrestled with it for the last five years or so, at first I wanted to hang on, but then as I stopped the reinforcing efforts I noticed some things more clearly in my mind. I like the idea of god but I'm pretty sure I'd be classified as an atheist at this point. I wanted to be an agnostic but when the idea of the Judeo-Christian god fell away, anything else just felt false too. I don't know for how long it's been since I haven't truly believed, and I can't honestly point to one thing even now. It's really been a process where I discovered just how much I was reinforcing the idea of god on my mind and now it's just not there. Oddly enough, I think it was guys like Hitchens that pushed me back into the fold for awhile since their arguments were always full of holes and partial truths built more for shock value than enlightening.
  13. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    I think that is a fair assumption to make about my concern. My process is my own, and I'm just recently at the point where I am sharing in places like this, I don't know that I'll ever come out of the closet in my public life. But at the same time I don't want to break someone else who is just wanting some dialogue. Other guys on here I know through experience and feel comfortable with some full contact engagement on this front. I seriously doubt any of the challenges I bring on this issue will strengthen your beliefs. You focus on your kids, they are far more important. If we choose to pick this up later then so be it.
  14. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    Some process we don't understand or a divine being. Simpler is the process we don't understand.
  15. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    Fine where is your data for your peer review. This way we can analyze your results and see if they can be repeated. Oh, I know you used the word experiment loosely because you're trying to win an argument and decided to be cute. That stuff works in Sunday School and from the pulpit, ask me how I know, but it doesn't work in the real world.
  16. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    If your experiement is running every single day then by scientific method you can draw NO conclusions until it is over and you can analyze the test results. You sir are cheating. Before we go farther, just know that I'm not going to quit with this, and that will include deconstructing something you trust in. If you are up for that then ok, but if not, then best just cut it off here.
  17. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    No no, it's Thanos. It's as plausible as anything they've brought forward. That's the point, it's the whole weakness to the theological argument is that at the end of the day you have to take it on faith and nothing else. They'd like you to believe otherwise, but it's not true, their own book even says as much even though they've spent a lot of ink trying to do otherwise. It's the ultimate cheat, anything can't be explained...God. Anything seems to contradict that...mystery. It's a self licking Popsicle.
  18. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    @PeterMPobjects in motion tend to stay in motion until acted upon by another force. So you want to know why? and my guess is that your reason is god said so. Yeah, see that's not nearly as convincing as you want it to be. Not to mention that all this does is get us to First Mover, and that's a LOOOOOOOOOONGGG way from Jesus as my personal lord and savior. Go for it Run your science experiment to prove your hypothesis. We'll wait Fine here's my explanation, it isn't the Judeo Christian god, it's instead aliens from a parallel space-time continuum that have the ability to snap their fingers with a special glove and cause entire dimensions to come into being or cease to exist. There is my explanation, and it is EVERY bit as valid as yours.
  19. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    Here's my biggest problem with the "God wants us to take him on faith not proof" argument, why? The answer is typically "obedience", but that doesn't make sense either. If there is a god and that god is the Judeo Christian god then he created us with smart minds that seek evidence and proof, scientific minds. But he hid himself and chose only to whisper to a few people and has all but stopped since. So what's the purpose of just faith without seeing? Why the game? If god's purpose is to save the world then do it, he's changed the rules before why not do it again. I know the answer, it's the mystery of god. Well, for me, that answer stopped being acceptable.
  20. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    Well we are certainly beyond arguing for the Judeo-Christian god. At the very best what you're after is a primary mover god, one who sets things in motion and then hides himself from perception. Sooner or later we stop talking about a god and start describing an external force. And we can work with this through Occam's Razor, all things being equal the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one. So which is more likely 1) an all powerful god and conscious god created everything, set it all in motion and then hid himself through purposeful blinding of intelligent minds and is now off somewhere entertaining himself or 2) an as of yet undiscovered process brought the universe into being and is only hidden because the limits of our scientific exploration? My mother in law would say, "It's god" but then she's not real bright. The scientific mind says that we cannot assume god simply because we don't have a better answer.
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    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    Augustine started with the assumption of God as are you, that's not proof that a presupposition. It was Augustine's fault, as it is yours. Believe it or not Augustine was wrong.
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    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    @PeterMPthe sun coming up is not proof of God, neither is the fact that since the sun has come up for millions of years proof of God, neither is the fact that I'm reasonably sure that the sun will come up tomorrow. I don't know where you came up with this idea that predictability is the evidence of god. Not when physics provides a reasonable answer to whether or not the sun will come up. You seriously sound like the ancient Greeks that look out in the morning and see the sun rising and give glory to Apollo for riding his chariot across the sky again.
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    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    I always feel like a drunk when reading your posts. If god intentionally put blinders on people because we might prove his existence then that god is a bit of a prick. And there is a way to see beyond your own perception. It's called community. Where you may not be able to see others can. And if your argument is simply about the limited nature of perception then your argument isn't for god, it is instead the limitations of the human creature. And then science's quest would be to reduce those limitations by expanding human perception.
  24. AsburySkinsFan

    What do you Believe??? (Religion)

    This right here is why I no longer believe. I have no reason to believe that god exists. And you can argue first mover, you can argue gaps, you can argue sunsets, you can argue love, you can argue complexity; I know them all. I've tasted the goodness of the word of god and I have fallen away. Those faith commitments I once held as true no longer are sufficient. I don't see god working in this world, I see people. I don't see the church as an alternative, in fact I see the church is exactly the same as everyone else only in denial through their delusion that they are exempt because they said a cosmic "I'm sorry". It doesn't even bring me pain to write this because it's not like I've lost something. So in your mind god exists until we open the box that finally shows that there is no god. That's gaps brother, shoving god into the cracks of the unknown all to maintain the idea of a god. The only problem is that with every day your god becomes smaller, shoved into a tinier box than the day before because human knowledge grows forcing the idea of god to the margins.