AsburySkinsFan

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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    That's a very nice false equivalency you have there. Did you name it? I assume it's a pet.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Fair enough.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    The person who failed to fix the problem. but in America we have been conditioned to believe that companies aren't responsible for their products. Thoroughly according to who? the processors who insist that food be cooked to high temps because they refuse to take steps to avoid contamination. But you ignore where the contaminants come from and place the blame on the chef.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    IF you and others would have bothered to read the article you would have discovered that Boeing did a piss poor job at providing manuals, and simulators to train in. but no ya'll read headlines and don't put things in context. And I have every authority to tell you what to do, I just don't have the authority to make you do it. However, if you had you wouldn't look silly.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Read the article
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Go back and READ my comments. My beef is with @twa because when he first heard about these crashes his comment was that it was due to pilots sleeping at the wheel. Since then he's spent his time moving the goalposts and shifting blame away from Boeing. Their **** was broke they knew it they didn't fix it.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Gatdamn son did you EVEN bother opening the article before you ignored it?
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Read this article sweetie. THEY WERE NOT TRAINED IN ON THE ISSUE Boeing ****ed up, face it.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    No, it's the driver's fault. THIS is how a company responds to a flaw in its systems.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    You mean the plane can easily stay airborne when the malfunctioning MCAS system is disabled, this is the first question asked. The second question you ask is "was this a known problem?" The third is "What lengths did Boeing go to in order to fix this problem?" The fourth is "What lengths did Boeing go to in order to inform pilots of the malfunction?" You keep jumping straight to "the pilots were asleep at the wheel." Which oddly enough is where you started before you knew the facts, and surprisingly the facts didn't change your mind.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    watch the video As much as I've ever read, watched, and studied about fighter jets and their inherent instability the FBW system is the system that keeps them in the air. You are using it in a more generalized way to describe digital flight controls, but the FBW systems were developed to keep like the X-29, F-117 and other experiemental planes flying because by design they were unflyable without the FBW system.
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    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    Lock him up!!!!
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Watch the video. Autopilot is navigational controls etc, not "keep the damn plane in the air" controls, that's FBW. Maybe on the civilian side ya'll generalize terms, but this is what it means on the military side.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    You should be, and that's the problem. These were capable pilots. You are making assumptions that you cannot substantiate, and that makes you look foolish. If the plane will not maintain straight and level flight hands off without FBW computer management then it is considered unstable. Fly by wire, there is digital controls included in this category but when we're talking about a system like the stall prevention it is also included in the Fly-by-wire system. It just has a computer that makes more decisions without the pilot's input. This is NOT an autopilot.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    From what I've read about the flight data recorders no, these flights were not stalling. The anti-stall system incorrectly detected a stall and tried to fix by nosing down (increasing air speed under wing) when the pilots tried to pull up they were fighting the system because it thought they were making the wrong choice.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Fly-by-wire: An electronic control system that independently maintains a stable flight attitude on an aircraft that where pilot controls would be unable to do so; see X-29 and subsequent fighters. No I do not consider fly-by-wire to be synonymous with digital flight controls as opposed to cable/pully controls. Stability of flight platform: https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/3-types-of-static-and-dynamic-stability-in-aircraft/
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    "Hey boy, better go tighten that bolt!" The training is a SECONDARY issue, the primary cause of these crashes is the system malfunction. I'm not going to do your homework for you. I have been an airplane enthusiast since I was in high school, had dreams of being a fighter pilot, too bad I didn't study algebra as much as I did the Janes Encyclopedia of Aviation. Fly-by-wire, instability etc are common terms in aviation. As for boost, this provides as good a definition as I can describe. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/47337/what-is-boost-super-boost-in-the-pw127m-n
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    The more I think about this the more annoyed I get at Boeing and those looking to cover their culpability with blame shifting. If Boeing discovered a flaw that would cause a wing to fall off midflight during normal operations, but they found out that if the pilot went into the storage area and replaced a bolt when it started to fall off EVERYONE would tell Boeing to fix their ****. But here we have a predictable duo pretending that the REAL blame is that the airlines didn't sufficiently train their flight crews about the bolt. It's not like these planes were actually in a stall, the system screwed up and crashed the planes because it is a flawed system. Fix the ****ing system and the rest takes care of itself.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    No they don't. The system responsible for these crashes is an emergency system not a system that makes the aircraft flight stable. Again please refer to my dental floss vs table top analogy. The normal 737 aircraft is a stable aircraft (table top) the 737-max is apoarently not (dental floss) so it needs fly by wire to keep it in the air. A piece of emergency equipment that does not subjugate itself to manual pilot input is bad, seen at least twice now. Because when that equipment incorrectly diagnoses a situational problem (like stall) bad things happen. This responsible software is not fly by wire software otherwise it would have nosed up and powered out of the stall, instead it ONLY noses up and wouldn't let the pilots power out of what one computer thought was a stall.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    How about fix your ****ing software!? Damn why is it ya'll want to shield Boeing from their responsibility? I ALREADY said the airlines have partial blame but you and @twa for some reason think that Boeing is free from blame because an airline didn't educate their pilots about a KNOWN flaw in Boeing's flight avionics. It's THEIR avionics that are WRONGLY sensing flight stall and their avionics that are crashing these planes. And it's the airline's responsibility to communicate this to pilots, but that does not excuse Boeing from culpability due to the failure of tgeir equipment package.
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    Where is the Outrage over Boeing 737-MAX?

    Ok, NONE of the aircraft you cited, C-9 or P-8 are fly-by-wire because they are unstable platforms, and yes I am acutely aware of what the military flies other than fighters, and all of those other aircraft if they utilize fly-by-wire it is for accuracy of flight controls and not because the aircraft is inherently unstable. Some other military aircraft you missed the have civilian versions KC-10, KC-135, not to mention the host of personnel aircraft such as the models used to fly President's and other government officials. Again, theses may ALL have upgraded fly-by-wire avionics but NOT because the aircraft itself is unstable. You could be in flight with any of these and switch off the fly-by-wire and never know because they aircraft is an aeronautically stable platform. Fly-by wire control systems were specifically developed for airccraft such as the X-29 that aeronautically is impossible for a pilot to fly stick & rudder. The FBW system makes the thousand corrections persecobd to literally keep the aircraft flying. If you turned it off, the plane would crash because it is compketely unstable. Same goes for nearly EVERY modern fighter because it's the inherent instability in the aeronautics that provides for the greatest agility. Think of it like balancing a teacup on a piece of dental floss vs putting it on the table. The second you let go on the dental floss the cup will fall, whereas on the table you can walk away and forget it. Fly-by-wire systems are not autopiloting systems. As to what @twa was yammering about in the other thread before this one was created the 737-max anti-stall system is apparently more akin to a fly-by-wire protective flight system than it is an auto-piloting system. Auto-pilot is a system that literally flies a programed flight, direction, altitutude, speed etc. This is NOT fly-by wire and it is NOT the anti-stall system. The anti-stall system is a safety system that automatically overrides the autopiloting system and apparently the manual controls until it is specifically shut off. And from what I'm reading it was placed on these aircraft because they are unstable aeronautically. Which as was already stated, perfect for fighters, not so much for a bus. It is when that pilot isn't informed that there is additional software overriding his controls. These computers are ****ing up (Boeings fault) and the pilots aren't being trained (airline's fault). I know you want to give a pass to Boeing, but it's clear that their system has an unaddressed problem that has crashed at least two aircraft full of people.
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    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    She's prison porn pretty, not real prison pretty.
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    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    Stage 4 throat cancer that rots his vocal chords but spreads to his colon causing him to lose all control over his bowels.
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    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    What part of "it was not the auto-pilot" is too complicated for you to figure out? It was a separate anti-stall system unique to THIS series of aircraft...apart from the auto-pilot. Damn son, you're smarter than this.
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    Trump and his cabinet/buffoonery- Get your bunkers ready!

    This entire administration needs to be investigated for using the office for personal gain. Sadly, people are so cynical these days that they have tacitly accepted that all politicians do this so they don't care when one gets caught.