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    "Project 11" Alex Smith's ESPN 30-for-30

    I just read the ESPN insider article via his Alex's wife about the ordeal. Unbelievable. Scary, too. You see injuries in games but it doesn't cross my mind that one could jeopardise your life. Everything I read about him before the injury and post makes him come off like one of the super nice-good guys in the NFL. I got mixed feelings though about him trying to bounce back and play. I love the story of it and since it fuels him, that's awesome. And I do think he'd help this team. I wasn't in love with his play 2 years ago but I thought he was a decent albeit not great QB and clearly a super leader-good guy. I do think he'd be a great example for Haskins and Kyle Allen, etc and at a minimum would win the backup job. But for him as a person -- I'd be fearful for him to get hurt again. From what I can tell that leg might still be fragile. Football is awesome but it isn't life and death. It's just a game. And reading his story really brings that home.
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    2021 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    I just watched 2 games of Kyle Pitts. That dude IMO will be a star TE in the NFL. They line him everywhere, inside, outside, slot. Plays some H back. He separates like a receiver and is fast. 6 "6 and 240 pounds I figure he can put on hopefully 10 pounds of muscle. Probably because of his lack of girth, as a blocker he is decent at it but can get pushed back when he pass blocks. I like him more as a run blocker. He reminds me a little of Thaddeus Moss as a blocker in that he's a willing blocker, undersized as for weight but still locks into his assignments and gets in front of the defender and holds his block typically long enough. But he's so dynamic for a TE. He is good at the seam, routes in the flat and can threaten vertically. He would be by a mile the most dynamic TE measured by the 2020 class. Kmet for example can move even though he doesn't have top speed. Albert O does have top speed but IMO doesn't play to that speed. Pitts on the other hand looks like a 4.5 guy or maybe even faster and can get to that speed fast, has loose hips, he's a natural athlete. I bet he tests well in the combine both as to the speed and agility exercises. Also he is a good contested catch and YAC guy. He had some drops but by and large has strong hands. I'd love a dude like that for this offense. pitts.mp4 pitts2.mp4 pitts3.mp4
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    2021 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    If I ran with Keim's version of what was offered a 2nd rounder and a third. That's a really nice haul, too.
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    2021 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    Breer covering what some scouts told him about the draft https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/30/nfl-personnel-draft-best-worst-justin-herbert?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true Picks that I liked … NFC exec: “I liked Jonathan Taylor to Colts. Fits their mentality and is a hell of a good player. Never understood, and still don’t, as to why most people thought he wasn’t the top runner—6,000 yards in the Big Ten, when everyone knows he’s getting the ball and still can’t stop him, is impressive.” AFC GM: “I like Darrell Taylor to Seattle. Fits their mentality and mold at DE perfectly. NFC scout: “Kenneth Murray. That salty defense [L.A. Chargers] gets a stud in the middle that will be there a long time. Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, Derwin James and now Murray? Sign me up.” AFC scouting director: “Zach Baun to the Saints—steal, three-down LB with a big upside at pick 74 (obviously the diluted sample was an issue).” AFC exec: “Liked Xavier McKinney pick by the Giants. Good football player with versatility, a first-round talent they acquired in the second.” AFC college scouting director: “Clyde Edwards-Helaire to the Chiefs. Best RB in the draft, fits into a perfect offense. Going to be miserable to matchup with that offense. Also, Kristian Fulton to the Titans. Arguably the third best CB in the draft at the end of the second.” AFC exec: “Edwards-Helaire for K.C. was a great pick to add to their offensive firepower.” NFC exec: “Kenneth Murray was a great pick/fit for the Chargers. Although they needed OL, they went with best player on board and got a leader and someone who should be an impact player. … Josh Uche was a great pick for the Patriots at No. 60. Good fit and great value at that pick. … I really like the fits for Clyde Edwards-Helaire in K.C. and D’Andre Swift in Detroit. Clyde has great feet, burst and very elusive and makes K.C.’s offense that much better, which says a lot. Swift will be a dynamic change-of-pace runner with Kerryon Johnson and Bo Scarbrough in Detroit. He was the right fit at RB for them.” AFC scouting director: “NYG OG Shane Lemiuex. Got him in fifth round, but in their situation he could push to start at center, based on who they already have at guard. Getting a fifth-rounder who might start for you is value.” NFC exec: “I thought Dallas’s Neville Gallimore in the third was a really good pick—we tried to get him … This guy, he’s raw, but to get an in-line rusher in the third round, that’s a really good get, especially when there were no edge guys available. It’s all upside with him. That was a guy that stuck out, that he was still available.” Classes I was impressed with … NFC exec: “I liked the 49ers on the strength of their two first rounders. And then Colts and Ravens, I thought, got a lot of value out of a bunch of their picks.” NFC scout: “Baltimore. Just a throwback Ravens draft class. Inside linebacker and running back with their first two picks? Sorry, draft twitter. But that plays in that division. And bang for your buck—New Orleans. Adam Trautman was probably the second best TE, Cesar Ruiz the best center and Zach Baun was a second-round caliber player.” AFC exec: “I thought Denver got good value on each day of the draft: Jerry Jeudy … K.J Hamler/Lloyd Cushenberry/McTelvin Agim … Justin Strnad/Tyrie. Cleveland. New Orleans didn’t have much draft capital but got three quality players with their first three picks. K.C.’s first two picks are potential difference-makers if they hit. Jets got good value on each day and didn’t panic for needs. Drafted without emotion which I admire.” AFC GM: “Atlanta—high character and three starters with the first three picks.” AFC exec: “Liked the Cowboys draft. Really good value on the majority of their picks. First three picks will be eventual starters.” AFC exec: “The Vikings’ first four picks were good additions, as well as the rest of their draft, in terms of depth to their roster.” NFC exec: “Saints. Minnesota had a load of picks but this might not be the best time to load up on back of the draft talent with no OTA’s and a very limited offseason. So I understand New Orleans’s thought process making that trade. Trade and get a few good players rather than holding onto a number of late-round picks that will be limited in their development with a shortened off season.” AFC college scouting director: “NYG. Joe Judge put his stamp on this class. Potentially three starting OL and a versatile player for the defense in Xavier McKinney.” AFC scouting director: “Baltimore. Added upgrades and long-term starters at ILB in Patrick Queen and Malik Harrison, who complement one another well with Harrison the downhill run defender and Queen the athlete, then added skill players on offense that bring some speed in J.K. Dobbins and Devin Duvernay, and another DL with inside-rush ability in the Texas A&M kid, Justin Madubuike. NFC exec: “Really liked Denver’s draft, they’re doing their best to give the quarterback weapons. And they need a left tackle, but didn’t reach for one at 15, and they didn’t reach in the second round. They just let the draft board fall to them. The corner (Iowa’s Michael Ojemudia), I’m not as high on. But they did well to get Lloyd Cushenberry, Agim McTelvin and the tight end from Missouri (Albert Okwuehbunam) where they did. Head scratchers AFC GM: “Jordan Love. Why?” NFC scout: “Damon Arnette to Oakland seemed like a reach. But also Kyle Dugger over Jeremy Chinn, and Devin Asiasi and Dalton Keene over TEs still on the board by New England, and also a kicker in the fifth round who was not getting drafted.” AFC exec: “New England’s draft was kind of average, other than the Dugger kid who is from a Division II school, but was one of the better players during Senior Bowl practice. … Like Jaylon Johnson but otherwise I’m not sure what Chicago is doing taking a raw “Y” TE in the second round after investing so much in Jimmy Graham. Maybe going to more 12 personnel with Nick Foles like they did in Philly? Run the ball, protect the ball and play good defense?” AFC scouting director: “QB Jordan Love to Green Bay. Too many holes to waste Aaron Rodgers’s backend—how long will he be there and is he good with the head coach? And Cole Kmet to the Bears. How many tight ends do you need? They have 10!” AFC college scouting director: “Arnette to the Raiders. Good player but could have gotten him later and it is a high price to pay for a guy with questionable character.” AFC exec: “Jordan Love to the Packers is top of the head scratchers because of the presence of Aaron Rodgers and their need of wide receivers. All of Miami’s first-round selections were head-scratchers. Medical risk with Tua and two other guys who were questionable first-round picks.” NFC exec: “I don’t get the Jalen Hurts pick. … Didn’t like the Bears draft. Tight end was not much of a need and although Kmet is a good player he is not a difference-maker. At a time when the Bears needed to take a step forward, I don’t think they achieved that with this draft. Jaylon Johnson was their best pick.” NFC exec: “The one where we were happy with was when Vegas took Arnette. That was a head-scratcher. He’s a good player, but most teams had second/third, every time we interviewed him, he was late, there was always something. … They vouch for him at the school, and he brings juice. But giving him money in Vegas would scare me a little.”
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    Me, too. That's part of the reason why I loved Doc Walker's rant on this topic because it came off so refreshingly balanced. I noticed with some of the talk radio types even some here on the subject can turn it into a polarizing topic pro or con. To me you can like the kid, feel sorry for him as to the context involved but also see some of the criticism about him as a red flag that he needs to put to rest. Both things IMO can be true at the same time. And if we dig a little deeper into the process via the stories which were shared, Jay wasn't some lone wolf dissenter about Haskins, there were others including some within the FO according to most with concerns too. For me, I do feel sorry for Haskins. I do think he got a bad hand. And from small personal experience seeing Haskins up close, I think he's a super nice guy. At the same time, I can't give him a pass either for the other stuff and the fact that an Ohio State reporter said that he wasn't always all over it as for preparing there either at a juncture -- makes me think the dude has some maturing to do on that front. To paraphrase Doc he doesn't need a hug from his coaches to prepare hard -- if you aren't valued the way you'd like then work even harder and make these coaches notice you. Though he said it funner and a more provocative way than that. And if I heard him right, he said he told this right to Haskins directly. And if so I love that. From what I've read about Haskins he does have a really good competitive drive about him and he's not fragile. So I think some of these type of criticisms will likely be good fuel for him. I love reading about his off season thus far, he seems to be on fire as for prep. So am feeling good at the moment albeit I got some concerns about installing a new offense when you can't even practice it. I think it puts teams with new coaches at a major disadvantage.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    I like Haskins' skill set, too. Although, I am with Walker among others though on the point that I don't give Haskins a pass for his specific part in supposedly not always being prepared. But hopefully, that's the past. I love everything I've been reading about his off season thus far. who knows but judging by twitter, NE has some interest in Dalton, too. That would be wild going from Brady to Dalton.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    the timing I think makes it tough with Cam. You'd want your team doctor to examine him and they obviously can't. He was just released a few hours ago, takes a little time. Jax rumored to have interest.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    I am with you on this sentiment. Yep. The media who covers them, too. And of all team's fans-media, that team from what I observed is the most condescending about the Redskins. LOL, yeah I am cool with Cam. I like players who have that athletic arrogance. Some here criticized Haskins for showing some of that too (though he is much more muted than Cam on that front) and I said the same about Haskins -- i actually like it.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    I've been surprised by somethings relating to Haskins last year both on the plus end and minus end. As for the plus end, his mobility really surprised me. I mentioned it when I watched some camp last year. If he's in even better shape, that's a good sign, I agree.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    I've been saying it for years on the Giants-Redskins game threads. We don't hate that team enough. They are just as obnoxious as the other 2 NFC East fan bases from my experience and they have no reason to be. Thinking about it some more. Based on circumstances could mean if no one picks him up, and we have an injury..... It's not that I dislike Cam. I think when he was at his prime, he was great. But wonder about his health now and got doubts he would be at ease as a backup if that's how it went down.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    It would be cool to see Alex return and I am rooting for it. He'd be a major upgrade at backup QB and likely could challenge to start. I wasn't as big on Alex as some but not as harsh as some others but I think he was a decent QB and a bonafide good guy-leader. But I seriously doubt that it ever happens. It's just tough for me to see Newton being satisfied with anything other than starting. He's has a big ego and big personality and I mean that in a good way but I think it would be too big on both fronts for this situation.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    If we are talking about the Doc Walker narrative IMO (I've heard Doc talk about Haskins enough that i think I got a handle on his take) this has zero to do with Jay. Haskins from some have said is a bit of a quiet guy. I've mentioned before about my few brief interactions as to watching him interact with fans including my kids. He comes off at least in those settings a bit shy and soft spoken compared to the typical player but also a super nice guy, very friendly. For the practices i've watched, Haskins though at times could get boisterous after a big play. So he has it in him to bring that leadership-energy. And likewise we saw it when they beat the Lions. When I watched that Amazon series about the Panthers, it gave a good dose of Cam's personality. And Cam is a take charge, large personality type. Haskins i am guessing is not always that type of personality. It's part of the reason why I doubt they bring Cam. Cam's personality IMO would just likely take over that room.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    Reading his quotes, my best guess is no on Cam but maybe if he's dirt cheap and no one else picks him up? I think Cam is too big of a name and personality to keep as a backup. His quote "I am not sure if I would do it, and I am not sure I wouldn't do it."
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    I recall my take on him on the draft thread that year was that he was Case Keenum as to caliber of play. I watched 5 of his college games if I recall right and watched a lot of his interviews so I dove deep into him among the other QBs, then. I didn't think then he'd be a bust but I thought he had a high floor-low ceiling. I didn't think much of his intangibles because he seemed so quiet and awkward in his interviews. The other comparison I used with him was Alex Smith stylistically but with turnovers. I used the Alex analogy because he was sneaky athletic and tough but also very conservative as to avoiding tough window throws. He had a high rate of tipped balls and fumbles in college. I ripped him to death on the draft thread from the context of I didn't want him here. My point is Alex is about avoiding mistakes. So if you are getting mistakes, then you are missing the boat on what Alex brought. Thereby Alex > Jones. I saw most of his Giants games and I was more impressed than I expected on 2 fronts. With the Giants, he was actually more daring than I expected as for throwing the ball down the field. The Alex comp on that front didn't apply. And I recall a Giants reporter saying they love him in that building as to intangibles, he's first to come last to leave, up at times at 4 am to prepare so he has that desire to be great. He also showed a little more personality than I expected. His fumbling issue from college though carried over. I wasn't smitten by his play, he was up and down, but his up moments were higher than I expected. One of the more optimistic dudes I can think of as to both Haskins and Jones where one isn't bashed in the process is Scot McCloughan who talked about both on Sheehan's show. He said he liked both guys, Sheehan asked him who did he like better before the draft and he said Jones but he said he also thinks Haskins will be good. But I agree the take on both somewhat depends on perspective. I noticed on twitter and elsewhere, Giant fans are chesty that Jones is better. And here, many think we got the better QB. I got no beef with either argument because where I am at is I really don't know. And purely from an ego stand point, I'd love to join in on bashing Daniel Jones because I really laid out my criticism on him thick on the draft thread that year. And we all like to be right? But now i am just putting on the breaks a little bit on that and want to see a greater sample size before I feel like I know definitively about either QB. Where did I say they said the reverse? I am giving my own opinion on it which is at this moment I don't feel comfortable landing on a hard opinion on either Haskins or Jones. As for talking heads, Haskins has his fans in the mix. My point on Kiper and Cowherd is they in my mind are ridiculously carried away about Jones. But Cowherd I don't take seriously anyway.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    I don't care if it was the Giants starters are not. You can start and still stink. Baker's PFF rating was in the 40s, Bellentine was in the 30s. They were atrocious. But regardless, I've made my point. I don't care to get that deep into the semantics of which defense was worse that day the Giants or Redskins. Some here seem to have made up their mind about both Haskins and Jones. There is no one here I think that has bashed Jones more than me leading up to the draft. I am undecided about both. If you think you got them both figured out well in your head and its Haskins = good and Jones = bad. I am not arguing your conclusion. It's possible. my argument is its too soon to tell. It's not really hard to argue for one versus another, it just depends on how you decide to value the different context-numbers involving both. I honestly I got no idea. And I am not gun shy at taking positions on QBs so if I had a strong position you'd hear one. I had a strong anti-Jones take before the draft but after seeing him play, I think I was too harsh on him. Sounds like plenty here think I was dead on correct. And like I said, I'd love to end up correct on it. I am just not that confident on that point right now. For me, I got to see another chapter in that story versus thinking the book's conclusion is already obvious.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    The Giants secondary wasn't murders row, either. It was horrendous. 2nd worst pass defense in the league last year, worse than us. So if context doesn't matter for Haskins and we are going to celebrate that performance versus the Giants as evidence that he progressed and by extension that Giants game means more than the games he played earlier against better defenses like Buffalo, Minny, etc -- then wouldn't the same point apply to Jones? That was my point. I got no problem giving props to BOTH Haskins and Jones for beating up on a defense that deserves to beat up. There is some value to beating up on a bad defense and I got no issue with those touting Haskins on that front. I get no problem with the sentiment. You still got to complete your passes and make plays regardless of how good the opposition is or not. It would seem hypocritical for me though to discount Jones for the same thing Haskins has been praised a lot for. But again I hope Daniel Jones ends up as bad as some here think he is. I don't get Kiper among others fascination with him as if he had some killer year. I think his season was decent for a rookie but nothing really overly special. But to my eyes, he doesn't look like a bust either, IMO he can play. However if he ends up as bad as some here seem to think, it would redeem me for all my hits on him on the draft thread that year, directed at him. So my fingers crossed that Jones' critics here end up on the money.
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    2021 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    It's all entertainment value stuff as for the draft geeks weighing in. they rated Dallas as having the top UDFA class.
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    The "I wish we got that guy" thread, 2020 Edition

    Van Jefferson was one of my guys at WR. I thought he'd go in the third and not the 2nd. Gibson was one of my guys, too. I thought Gibson would go in the 4th not the 3rd but I was cool with taking him there when we did because you never know whether someone could take him before that round. I might have preferred Duvernay by a hair but Gibson to me was close enough. If they landed Trautman over Charles, I'd have been really thrilled. I do like Charles but I don't love the overhang of worrying about his issues. Players who have had multiple drug issues among other things -- tend to at times have those problems follow them to the NFL. And I know they all say in the moment that they learned from it and they are over it -- I recall R. Gregory among others say it's in the past but alas they hit the NFL and it happens again. The Honey Badger is probably the best example of a player I can think of that totally got past it in the NFL.
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    Welcome to the NFL Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    I have a lot invested for Daniel Jones to fail. I said he's just a guy many times on the draft thread that year. I have some family who are Giants fans who love to rub it in. I'd love it for Daniel Jones to end up bad as some here think he is or believe that Haskins is a mile better or whatever. But based on watching Jones, IMO he's better than some here think he is. For a rookie to have a 2:1 TD ratio playing with a crappy supporting cast, isn't too bad. But I'd love for my original prediction of him to come true. Will see. I think the book is not written yet on either QB.