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  1. So I see the disconnect here. That’s not what would happen and that’s not what I’m advocating. The GM wouldn’t be his boss, he’d be his equal. This is what the Bills, Niners and Chiefs have going on. It would actually be a “Coach-centric” model that has proven to be successful multiple times if that happens and we still get the proper authority given to each side to fulfill their roles without unwarranted interference. We’d have the delicious simplicity of qualified hires having autonomy over their respective departments. Imagine that!
  2. This is what I’ve been trying to correct, actually. You’re fault, you said to correct you if you’re wrong so now I have to, lol. The majority of “Coach-centric” models around the league and, in fact, the recent successful ones that have essentially created that buzz word in the Niners, Bills, and Chiefs are NOT ones in which the Head Coach ends up with final say over the roster. This is arguably the largest point I’m trying to make. So many people make this mistake. Dan tried to hijack that buzz word and claim he’s implementing that model, but he only implemented his “HC as Foot
  3. Look, I think Kyle absolutely has the potential to be a great GM in this league and I’ve been a fan of his work for some time now, so I get the general consternation that exists among us about him being looked over and/or not given a shot at the position, but we have to understand that an equally important aspect of this hire is that there’s synergy between the head personnel exec and the head coach. As fans of this team we should know this better than anyone else, as there hasn’t been a coach here that has had real support and a synergistic relationship with their personnel departme
  4. This is, like, literally the main point I’ve been making regarding your leanings that “HC as Football Emperor” is not really the best model but is the best model only to keep crazy Dan at bay... and then you just drop this like it’s nothing? I’m just playing, but I think you do mistake (not purposely or in a sinister manner) one of the key points I’m making about this, so forgive me if I sound like a broken record but it’s worth repeating just based off what I’m reading here. I have a problem calling the current organizational model we have “coach-centric”. As origina
  5. Every single executive and coach hired here has said it’s a collaborative effort. It’s not even feasible for anyone to actually do everything at this level. Marty said it. Gibbs said it. Shanny said it. Vinny said it. Allen said it. Everyone is ideally collaborating, but that’s the problem. There are good organizational structures that codify and systematize good processes where the right people are able to fulfill their roles without unwarranted interference. The evidence is widespread around the league as to what that looks like. That’s what I’m talking about here. Can’t just stick my head i
  6. I get it. But to be fair, we should be scared either way, lol. He’s a big enough nightmare that it doesn’t even matter if someone is good at managing him. Heck, we’re learning in little bits and pieces that Allen was doing just that (with the reports that he was trying to talk Dan out of Haskins). Don’t get me wrong, I know Allen absolutely sucked at it and added his own issues, but what I’m saying is that “managing” someone as toxic as Dan is never easy and will inevitably cause problems. So my counter to your line of thinking, which again is totally valid and I’m not dismissing com
  7. I know I know, and you know we pretty much agree on everything, lol, just wanted to clarify because of how easily people get mislead on this.
  8. I feel bad for you, man, you’re fighting an impossible battle here. None of this matters to most fans. The magic coaching change is the most enticing thing in the world and owners/executives know it. The reality of sound organizational structures and principles being implemented is almost totally lost on fans and we have no idea how to judge it or judge those within it for the most part, so Ron the super awesome coach who can change everything with his assistant coaches and their magical schemes is a narrative just too damn tempting to not accept for most. We’re just annoying eve
  9. We’ve gotten into this before and I’ve told you I think this is a valid opinion to have if you want to believe that there is simply no hope with Dan and somehow the Head Coach manages to shield him from everything while not getting influenced negatively either (I’ve got problems with that argument, never mind it means we’re stuck in a model that’s been proven to fail more often than the others, but I won’t get into that here)... but then we can’t call this a “coach-centric model”. At least not how it was presented to us by Dan and Ron in that initial presser. I know fans were confused as well
  10. I agree with this in essence, but I will say that there are ways to go about this that succeed more than others. So while we don’t know in the end, the process does matter. And that’s not just about good programs versus bad programs but a lot of other factors. One of those factors, for instance, is certainly based on the players they were in charge of acquiring or had a significant role in acquiring; that isn’t useless information (though even that needs to be contextualized to a degree and isn’t as simple as saying x amount of players succeeded and y amount of players failed). So one can unde
  11. I love that you said this. At least you understand how limited we are about all this stuff and you’re not acting like it’s meaningless because of that. I blame the media for that mostly, but I digress. If one wants to dig deep and research it, there is enough out there to understand it at a high enough level. Not necessarily in terms of who is a good hire or not, but just to get an understanding of sound organizational principles and hiring processes. It’s hard though. You can find more about who was the assistant offensive line coach in 2003 with a quick google search before you
  12. Hmmm... that’s an interesting way of looking at it. I don’t know if we have anything to go off of at this point other than our gut feelings and what occurs around the league with these type of things. My hope is that we hire Cowden and/or Schoen (I like Rick Smith and I like the Vikings no. 2 guy Paton, too, though I think the Broncos have pretty much nabbed the latter already), and somehow manage to keep Kyle in his current role. Kyle’s current title is pretty much what no. 2 personnel guys have, anyway, so he wouldn’t be getting demoted or anything. And if reports are true
  13. Well, it wasn’t long ago that I was being told here we wouldn’t even hire a GM, the structure was perfectly fine as is, and that Kyle Smith was “de facto GM”... and no matter how much evidence I brought contesting those notions it seemed to not matter at all. So I’m already pleased at the fact that Ron isn’t accepting the status quo here and wants to improve the structure of the Front Office. That being said, I’m with @ConnSKINS26 and others that it’d be super disappointing if we end up hiring a Mayhew or a Hurney and that’s it. I adore the idea of someone like Cowden or Sc
  14. Well said, my friend. Well said. I don’t know if I can ever be “all in” again with Snyder still as owner and the threat of his immense ego-driven stupidity looming ever so large, ready to destroy any momentum the team manages to build in a single, swift, act. But I did have that feeling again last night. Again, very well said.
  15. I know you know how much I hate saying this regarding this issue, but you’re probably right here. It’s tough to see someone conceding that power. And I’m going to forgive you for calling this “coach-centric”, because it’s not really based on those models as I’ve gotten into a bunch of times, but that’s a nitpick I won’t get into right now for the sake of your sanity. But here’s where I’m holding out some hope and am unwilling to put it at zero percent like you are. The fact of the matter is that, for any legitimately qualified candidate to accept the position here fr
  16. I swear, a @Pittman4Two sighting is probably the best part of making the playoffs for me. Not even lying.
  17. I know this might seem harmless, but no politics in The Stadium. This could easily generate a response and then there’d be no end in sight. I’ve edited it out myself, but next time could end up in a penalty so just avoid it.
  18. He’s received some time off for it, but we’d prefer you to use the “report” function next time you see something you view in this manner. We do miss things sometimes. Yeah, I think he was quoting something, but it’s still unacceptable and we shouldn’t allow people to cross that line where their words can have an entire nation of people get offended easily. The fact that we’re even wondering what he meant by it is a good indication that he shouldn’t have posted it. Even if you’re right about your first assumption, that would be getting political in the Stadium which is also
  19. They bring in Schoen and give him the title along with the power it should have I’ll be flying high. Then people can start comparing us to the Bills, Chiefs, 49ers, etc... like they were wrongly doing before with that “Coach-centric” label. I’d be pretty pleased with Rick Smith, as well. If we can keep Kyle Smith in his role along with Schoen (or to a lesser degree Rick Smith) at GM? I think I’ll legit go full homer on everyone here. You guys forgot how obnoxious a full homer TSO is. It won’t be pretty. Of course, Dan is still around.
  20. Yeah, I know, I know. It’s just so sad that we have to simply accept this as our norm. What a disastrous situation for fans to be in. That being said, my counter to this is we simply haven’t seen Snyder with an actual qualified personnel exec fulfilling that specific role with autonomy. So as much of a train wreck as he is, and as much as I agree with you regarding his ego and what it entails, I just don’t see how that automatically means this is the only, or best, way we can find sustainable success under him. That being said, if it is the best way, that means we’ll fo
  21. That article by Standig @Skinsinparadiseposted is perfect evidence for why I believe the media plays a major role in the general ignorance of fans regarding sound organizational structure at the pro level. There’s so much I can go into in dismantling what he said throughout its entirety, but I’ll just point to the end of that article that shows just how easily they perpetuate falsehoods that mislead people. He mentions both the Chiefs and Seahawks as examples of “building around the Coach” and analogous to what Snyder did when hiring Rivera. This couldn’t be furth
  22. Really, guys!? Relax or this is going to end with some time off for everyone involved. I was allowing the talk about race for a little because it does pertain to this topic, but clearly you guys couldn’t keep it civil. The bolded parts are actually the problem here and the obvious violation of rules. Figure it out.
  23. I found this graph both fascinating and, uhm, hilarious: So this graph is essentially attempting to show similarities in offensive scheme between teams (not sure exactly what components are being used, but someone in the comment section alluded to stuff like PA rate, avg. depth of throw, etc...). But according to this we’re pretty much the Chiefs schematically. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why we aren’t getting the same production.
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