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  1. Interesting choice of words since God/Jesus told you to put away the sword and start fishing. Perhaps you are God damned for owning a gun?

    He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

    Luke 22:36

  2. it actually is really a rather toothless gesture....requiring a private dealer that sells 50 or more guns a year to do background checks is rather hard to enforce and impacts few.....and of course will be challenged in court.

     

    that his legal staff has taken over a year trying to draft one that passes legal muster should tell ya something..

     

    I wonder if they would care to share the number of such dealers?.....aside from ATF undercover folk  ;)

    WTH is a private dealer?

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  3. What exactly do they check for mental health? There's no way it can be that in depth.

    Actually, they can. Post VT shooting, requirements were made within the state for reporting certain mental health behaviors or issues. It was in a host of reforms that came in 2008.

  4. I dunno. I have a CCW in VA and it is super easy. I did a full course with shooting qualifications to get my certificate but that was just me having some standards. But tshile is correct...you can literally take a 30 minute "class" online and get a qualification certificate. Then you go fill out the form, pay the fee, and that's that. The form has a bunch of questions on it for things that would disqualify you (mental health history, substance abuse, etc), but pretty much all of them are "scout's honor". The only thing they actually check is whether or not you have any felony convictions.

    Wrong. They also have mental health checks and drug arrests (even misdemeanors).

  5. This chart is bogus.

     

    I know VA's laws and acquiring a concealed permit is not 'moderate' in difficulty. It's a shall issue state - as long as you don't have a felony, or a violent (including domestic issues) or drug related arrest, all you have to do is pay a fee and fill out a piece of paper.

     

    Wonder what else is bogus on that chart.

    Uh ... actually, you have to take a class. I believe a certified NRA class. There are waivers, but they are for things like military or law enforcement.

  6. Yes, they would help. They'd also feel good. And responsible gun owners, in exchange for some minor intrusions in their usual purchasing/storage processes, will get to be secure in the knowledge that they aren't going to be politically attacked all the time anymore.

    One compromise from abortion debate that maybe we could make: for each investigation into Planned Parenthood that occurs, the CDC gets to do one study into the root causes of gun violence.

    Anyone cool with that?

    We'll even let the GOP get a head start and won't bank the numerous states that have concluded investigations (finding nothing); we'll only count ongoing and future investigations towards the CDC's study total.

    Except, since 1934, all gun owners have done is comprise and they still get attacked.

    Are you also shocked there was not one armed security person at that area ?

    Sheep to the slaughter.

    Well considering that the student body voted to NOT arm campus police ....

  7. So, for all the non-NRA pro-gun people on ES: would you support funding into research (eg, CDC - though other institutions should be involved too) into why so many more Americans die from bullet wounds than other countries? Would you support legislation suggested by said research results geared to reducing gun deaths? Why or why not?

    No. Enormous waste of money. "So many more Americans" die from bullet wounds because America has more guns.

  8. and what was our society's response to those two events? We put greater effort into tracking the items that could be used in large scale bombs, and we greatly tightened airplane security procedures.

    ... do you see a trend here? a pattern?

    Yeas, that we continue to ignore problems in our society because it's too much work to fix them. Instead we cover it up and attempt to blame it on an object.

    The pattern is that we continue to forfeit our personal liberties for the false hope of security.

  9. This is what sucks...don't be defensive. My post wasn't doubting you, it's asking for details so I can understand the decision. Spare tires and first aid kits, to my knowledge, have never been the reason that a parent has never seen their child again. A gun has, so you can probably appreciate why we might treat them differently. 

    No, a person is the reason that a parent never saw their child again. Not a gun. How many kids did McVeigh kill in Oklahoma City? How many children on 9/11?

  10. OK, so I can understand that. I guess I don't quite understand (doesn't mean I'm right) the person who doesn't leave the house without a gun. I don't think you need to be armed to attend your kid's little league game or go to a bar with your buddies. 

     

    OK sure. Maybe I'm sheltered, but at 38 I still have never been in a situation where I wish I had a gun. Can you give me an example of a time you've either needed one and had it (phew) or needed one and didn't? What actually transpires? 

    I have.

     

    But even if I haven't, so what? I have a first aid kit in my trunk I've never used. I have emergency food and water I've never used. My wife has never used the spare bulbs or spare tire in her car. But they're there. Why? Because they may need to be used one day.

  11. Not judging, just asking since I didn't grow up around guns...and I understand that this might not apply to you mistertim.

    For the average person who walks around armed (legally), what is the mindset? Do you do it just to do because that's what you know? Do you believe you may need the gun to protect yourself? Do you believe you may need the gun to protect another citizen?

    Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

  12. Hillary Clinton states she will use executive action if elected to enact tougher gun control, to include opening up manufacturers and distributors to liability - even if the guns were sold legally

     

    http://time.com/4060744/hillary-clinton-oregon-shooting-gun/

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-announce-gun-control-proposals-article-1.2385328

     

    So if a business follows all applicable laws, they can be sued. Genius.

    Except, there's a law that already specifically prevents that, isn't there?

     

    Obama/Clinton don't seem to actually understand the purpose of the Presidency ...

  13. Well I'm not sure what else to do. When you are talking about something as grave as owning a gun, I think it should be a privilege. Not everyone should be allowed to own a gun. Do you think Adam Lanza should've had the right to own a weapon?

    He didn't. That's why he murdered his mother to get one.

     

    My point is that now you're opening up something that we may not be able to close. What if they decided that those rules should apply to voting? To refusing a search? To writing a news article or blog? To holding a protest?

     

    Not to mention, how open the system would be to abuse. A reason? What reason is substantial? The governing body can decide, literally, what would be reason enough. You've been attacked before? Not a good enough reason. Someone threatened you? Not enough of a threat.

     

    Why should I trust my government when it has shown time and time again it will trample my rights (looking at you NSA)?

     

    I think voting should be a privilege. I think everyone should have to pass an exam in order to become a citizen. But what I think is irrelevant, because the constitution says that what I think is not acceptable.

  14. I've being trying to come up with solutions other than an all out ban, because we all know that wouldn't work.

    I think the easiest and most obvious would be to increase screening heavily and make it more difficult to purchase a gun. I think this is the, "loophole," people are referring to.

    You will need three personal references and must be interviewed by a mental health professional. Drug tests. Something along those lines. You must provide solid reasoning why you want to own a gun. And it better be a good one.

    I think that casual gun owning should be examined. It shouldn't be a leisurely thing to fire a gun. These are deadly objects made to kill. I still don't understand why any average citizen would want a gun. I don't see why they should be given the right either. They should be restricted to professionals aka police. But hey...changing the Constitution is a difficult thing.

    I do get the logic of owning a gun to protect yourself, so I'm not going to claim it doesn't have any practical value. But I hardly think it is ever really applied.

    By the way I just watched Obama's speech immediately following the shooting. He was completely on point.

    So I need you to explain something, because I'm incredibly confused about this.

     

    Do you understand that owning a firearm is a Constitutional right? Because you're basically demanding that references, drug tests, psyc evals, and a reason for exercising an right. And, frankly, that scares the everliving crap out of me. We're already up in arms over a voter ID law and forcing women to undergo an ultrasound to terminate a pregnancy. Seems like you are opening Pandora's Box and effectively turning a right in a privileged that can be arbitrarily revoked by the government.

  15. You can change it. I guess you like substances over quality.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2013/06/11/four-reasons-for-google-to-buy-waze/

    Oops.

    Literally every reason it lists to use Waze over GM is something I hate about Waze. I don't care about where cops are. Frequently it's not accurate because the user saw the cop writing someoneba ticket. I dont want to be marking crap on the road, or giving a thumbs up to people. GM does all that for me by marking the route is red and providing me with a nice alternative route, usually with an updated ETA.

    Driving here is hard enough, I don't want to worry about some interactive interface.

    I think it's only slightly bigger than that LG G4 you are interested in, but I agree it's probably the biggest phone I've seen. I three friends who own the Nexus 6 and they have adjusted to the size. Getting the Nexus, made by Google, means you're getting the latest Android OS as Google intended, and not a manufacturer version...which is also further neutered by the Carrier you have(don't get it from your carrier if you can help it). But this also means you get OS updates before everyone else. Performance wise, compared to those other two phones the Nexus gives you the best processor too.

    Also, LG phones have a bad reputation. So much that I've seen on multiple occasionals where sales reps in AT&T and T-Mobile stores actively telling customers don't get it. And IMO, Samsung phones have been going downhill since the S4.

    Thanks, but Im sticking with Verizon. Neutering be damned, I've laughed too many times at my colleagues e phones can't get a signal.

    Realistically, is there any way to measure any of these phones GPS capabilities?

  16. I think both of those phones suck. You want an android phone? Get the Nexus 6 and you're welcome. :)

    Waze is the truth. The time estimates are always on point for me, and I spend between 45-70 minutes in the car ONE WAY on my commute to work. If there is an accident on the beltway, or God forbid, I-66...Waze gives me the best possible route to my destination. 

    Why the Nexus 6? It's the size of a damn aircraft carrier.

     

    I spend the same aamount of time. Google Maps gives me my time estimate before starting. Also constantly updates with secondary routes.

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