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  1. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Lol guys no doubt... this is actually one of my favorite times of the year in terms of football. I love to watch the tape, check out the talent, and just think about the creative ways to add players. Logically, I do feel obviously that Kirk is a really good fit. I also have dug in on other top prospects and done the draft simulations in a number of ways and I am kind of preparing myself for a number of scenarios. Just ya know, pounding the table lol. I do love D james, big time talent, but that said, he had a lot of talent around him. I dig Vea, I also think Ridley would be a great addition. R Smith is a tackling phenom and we could use him as well. Dug in on a number of top prospects and honestly I have come to peace with the team doing whatever they see fit...by now... just hoping to spawn the conversation and hoping to have everyone dig in on this guy and pay close attention to how he has moved up and down in the 1st round, and watch how he does in the combine, among may other prospects. Its just no one else on any redskin board is really seeing Kirk as the guy, and I am, so hence the persistence lol. Plus there is always Madden to explore the possibility. I have to say its going amazing in my seasons with AS and Kirk. Also this is good info for those late round flyers in FF. I scooped Kamara in 12th round last year in PPR and crushed my league.
  2. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Ok right on Mannix, im just now catching on that you are KC folk. I appreciate the exchange! Its true that KC's offense, from week 1 when they took out the Patriots, something special was going on that will change the league. Tyreek Hill is a superweapon and very few teams have anything like that. Thus the impetus will be for them to go and find the next Tyreek, and while Kirk is a different player in many respects, the impact is similar. For example- member in the game vs the Patriots when K hunt hit that HB seam and took it to the house?? I remember Hill as the motion man, and he faked a screen and seriously the whole defense bit. Having someone on the offense that a D must kepe their eye on and gameplan for on every play can be significant. we have seen that in KC with Hill, and a veteran signal caller broke out in many ways, because of this. I think Kirk will be a hot commodity in a post-tyreek hill league. I agree that drafting WRs high is a gamble. this organization knows that perhaps better than some. However, there is a premium on talent at the WR position so sometimes the time must be invested to develop someone. we have that guy already. Kirk has been ID'd as one of the top 5 instant impact rookies which is probably saying something considering that he is a WR. He can be a movable piece, just like Tyreek, lineup in the backfield, create mismatches, etc. nott o mention the balance and space he will open up for Reed down the seam, and for the running game. if they constantly have to watch for the deep ball it changes everything. I honestly have no idea how this will shake out, but this kid is gonna make an impact and I hope its for the skins. I like VV a lot and think he would be a fine 1st rounder, and yes if we dont shore it up with ZB, Roquan would be good too, though I have seen some project hm as an OLB which is interesting. We also have Su'a maybe, and they are pretty much the same size interestingly enough. im gonna edit this is in the name of full disclosure and then just make a couple of comments: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/13/nfl-draft-top-prospects-big-board?utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social Some of this is true. He does fight the ball a little and he needs to improve there, and I’ll even add in that his catch radius is not very large. However, to extrapolate that he “will fail to come up with a lot of catchable balls” is simply false. This is lazy reporting at its best guys. Also to say he is “strictly a slot receiver” is proposterous, that’s not true at all, he offers lots of value in many spots, is 200 lbs, and has a 37 inch vertical and had the highest YPC in the SEC in 2016. True draft analysts have actually used the word “polished” to describe his route running, and said he is very similar to Julian Edelman, not a “poor mans julian Edelman”. His comp is ODB and that’s gonna be his impact. on another note, I saw Lance Z tweeted casually about how his 4th round projection of Kirk was “old”, and that he would probably have him more in the 3rd if he were to redo it. Interesting that someone can take their job so lightly when some other young players’ career is on the line. SMH!
  3. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Cool just now seeing this post. I am that fan that feels an early draft pick on an upside WR is a good move for the team. I'll say just a bit more on it: I agree in your assessment that 1) the TE position is important and 2) AS is privy to working with and utilizing his TEs. Even though Reed has had a number of health issues, his contract and elite ability say that he is the guy. This is one area I think that will translate well from team to team, kelce to Reed, its a nice piece thats there. Our TE depth was strong going into camp last season, apart form Reed's injury woes. You gotta figure he's healthy and ready to return. Re two TE sets, VD and AS do have the rapport from back in the day and thats a bigger deal than we can conceptualize. He may have had some drops, but he still frankly is under contract and will be a part of the team onfield. we have the development of Jeremy Sprinkle who is a much better blocking TE than these other two guys. all that being said, I am totally down to draft another young guy to add depth, as its looking like Niles Paul is on his way out. there are a number of prospects going deep in the later rounds that can offer some upside here and I am frankly all for it. Now re strength of division and stopping the run- we have great coaching in place, we're seeing development with late round picks and UDFAs, so these are positives. I am not anti-Vita Vea at all, I do question some of the scouting that says he takes plays off, and I do sometimes question his level of competition... but I also recognoze the need for additional assets on the DL and he is going to be a great player. My point is this- his skillset is not really unique or rare, meaning, there are for example, FA acquisitions that could be made to shore up the interior. I think Ziggy Hood was not the right fit so its obvious that there will be some solution here for this need. I just dont think the ONLY solution is drafting VV. We just used our 1st round pick last year on a guy that is going to be better than VV. He can't do it alone, true, and he wont, for all the reasons I have mentioned. Now if Hurst falls to the 2nd? we run to the podium. There are indeed 2nd round prospects that can fill and perform in the interior of the DL that could very well be there for us in the 2nd. This is a much more logical approach because of these key considerations: -we have elite DL coaching, already is making an impact. -NT generally gets faded in the draft, thus guys could be there in the 2nd round. -The depth of position at DT is pretty decent, meaning we could (and should) draft later in the draft and find some rotational guys that may have solid upside given the right situation. -Free Agents could be had to fill this need. Now- the million dollar topic for me, on this board, is getting a plan together for our WR situation. J Doc essentially had his rookie season last year, flashed at times, and will continue to grow and develop and will more than likely be ready to take on the #1 role. That said, it's still a question as to whether he can or not. So that leaves questions for our WR depth and effectiveness. So let me just bring up these points and go from there: -FA WRs are going to be expensive save for some of the more mediocre players. John Brown would be a decent consideration for us. it comes down to cap space obviously. -2018 WR draft prospects are decent, but according to the experts, its "thin at the top", meaning, only a few guys will come in and contribute. Actually, only two guys, according to Kiper and McShay are in the top tier. So, that means, if we wait to grab a WR, they will need to develop and our current situation doesnt really allow for that. -while I agree that Tyreek Hill is a generational talent, I have been actively giving the board many, many reasons and quotes to suggest that C Kirk is also a generational talent and similar in many ways to Tyreek Hill, and while he may not be quite as fast, he has more legit potential to be an outside WR, better size. Above all he is a weapon, could even lineup in the backfield, can change or win a game with one punt return, we need that. His work ethic and character draws rave reviews. Seriously all this being said he could be an absolute superstar, most upside of any option at WR, as slim as they are. -Then the Alex Smith aspect. I dont think our fanbase will be very happy with AS coming in and regressing in any way. The microscope is on him and the front office's decision to secure him. Public opinion of the team is so important and I believe that they will be something BIG to give him help offensively. Sure maybe an RB, but again you can get an RB in FA or later in the rounds as it is one of the deepest draft positions. The comparisons that Kirk draws to Tyreek are almost uncanny how much of a fit he could be for AS. I really think after the combine, we are going to see his draft stock skyrocket, and we should have our choice between him or Ridley, and it seems like it will be a very good idea to pull the trigger on one of them, given all these bullet points. We can get a TE and a DT later in the draft at some point; a WR that can come in and contribute on the other hand, is rare. Plus the impact of having potentially two young elite WRs that would have rookie contracts is underappreciated. Would allow for the team to make other moves. We are still reeling from losing Garcon and D Jack last year, this would work towards having us all feel more peace with that decision. I know, long winded, but I've really really been thinking about it and i appreaicte the discussion. I only want whats best for our team. cheers HTTR
  4. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Ive seen CBS sports list Rudolph as their Top ranked QB. Interesting... also so notable that RBs are going maybe a bit earlier than expected?? Its not surprising to me to see such a high standard deviation for Christian Kirk. Given his team’s offensive woes and not ideal true #1 body type, folks have him in different spots: https://saturdayblitz.com/2017/10/26/texas-am-football-christian-kirk-nations-best-receiver/ Per Daniel Jeremiah, 1 team executive says Kirk has the “highest floor” of any WR prospect, and D.J. calls Kirk a “very safe pick”. Also says this re WR depth in the draft (important!): http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000881191/article/ask-5-which-college-football-wr-is-the-best-nfl-prospect This would obviously include Ridley who is also extremely good and ready to contribute (although he’s already 24), Sutton, who is a bit more of a project and to me offers a very similar skill set to Doctson and we already kinda have that role covered, and James Washington who is not a polished route runner but has great speed. He also had arguably th best QB in CFB (per CBS Sports!) throwing the football to him. Kirk had 6 different QBs in 3 years and played in the SEC. with all that said, Kirk still was known to some as the best player in the SEC, the most competitive conference in CFB by far.
  5. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Nfl.com has him as the top ranked LB (7.2). Says his comp is Brian Urlacher. Freakish athlete. This from an article a few months back re Christian Kirk comps. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/nfl-network-analysts-make-nfl-comparisons-texas-star-christian-kirk/ Brooks had a bit of a different approach, though, comparing Kirk to a guy who has become Tom Brady’s right-hand man with the New England Patriots: Golden Tate w a little bit of a turbo jet?? Yes pls
  6. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Great quickness, good pass rushing chops, and could be had in the 2nd round filling a need.
  7. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    I’ve been thinking too about the impact TE, maybe one that better at blocking than our current group? I like Sprinkle too, but if Goedert is the second coming of Gronk then he’ll be tough to pass on. Then you could actually use Jordan Reed at his true position which is basically a big WR. A very good one though. Maybe he’ll get fewer concussions split out wide... would fill the need for us at WR a little too. The WR we really need tho is a fast one, deep threat, so we can dial up desean’s old plays. The role exists in this offense and currently no one on the roster can really fill it... Crowder can do a little on the outside but yes he’s small and not that physical but a legit slot WR. Doctson has the tools to grow into the legit #1, he just needs some help... Two guys-that’s it, only two WRs in the draft that are projected to come in and make an immediate impact- Ridley and Kirk. I’d take either. If we don’t get Alex Smith some weapons it’s gonna be a long season. Impact TE could work too...
  8. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Fascinating pull of information from Bucky here, hot off the presses: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000915336/article/bucky-brooks-top-5-2018-nfl-draft-prospects-by-position?campaign=tw-cf-sf181609754-sf181609754&sf181609754=1 great insight. Says RB class is “loaded”, and has Royce Freeman in the top 5. obligatory Christian Kirk blurb, #2 on most rankings: Also has Maurice Hurst as #1 DT, and mentions the need and trend for teams to seek out that interior pass rushing DT. Keep in mind this is what we have in J Allen. Could always use more though. He has Taven Bryan high on his list too, he probably won’t fall to us in the 2nd. also for consideration, Derwin James, while physical and great against the run, I’ve seen a lot on him that he’s not a centerfielder... don’t we want someone who can play that role? Monte is already doing it right? Swearing her is more the SS and if sua is still around, that’s a lot of S tweeters in the house. Bucky ids Blanding as a centerfielder. last note, we shouldn’t rule out Denzel Ward, given the uncertainty at CB for us currently. Says here he is a lock down corner from day one. josh Norman isn’t getting any younger.
  9. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Its a great question, right now it would seem that Kirk at 13 would be a reach if the draft were this weekend. IF he crushes the combine and get around 4.4, honestly with his skill set and scouting comps, he may not even be there at 13. I have seen mocks that have him going 8 to the bears, and way-too-early mocks from last year that had him at 2 overall. Based on recent mocks and based on the buzz he is starting to get, I see him climbing draft boards similar to how Christian mccaffrey did so last year, he has that kind of talent to me, but perhaps faster that CMac’s 40 of 4.48. Re Anthony Miller, yes he’s gonna be solid, getting the Kendall Wright comp. he’s a little smaller thinner, more of a pure slot it would seem. Kirk *could* be faster and also play outside due to his RB frame. if you study the tape, the offense kirk was on did not give him the targets he deserved. Their QB play was atrocious in 16/17, and his competition level was top notch, going against serious defenses in Bama and LSU he looked very good in his limited looks, tons of separation. The QBs scrambled a lot so his value is still untapped and a relative unknown. to me it’s who’s the WR in the draft that we need? Because WR FA, for. a bigger name, will simply cost too much and won’t be the piece that we need to keep As from being captain checkdown. I keep alluding to Kamara and how he fit that Reggie bush/sproles role in the saints’ offense. They already had the plays for him mapped out. The same can be said for our offense post d jack. Think about it, it makes a lot of sense, and whether it’s Kirk or Ridley, either would work. Significant drop off after that though not out of the question to snag a James Washington in the 2nd round and have him contribute. i think adding a FA RB is more likely and would spent. A better chance for us to balance the younger guys with a dynamic vet presence. I think the same is possible for DL honestly, there are guys that can come in and play at maybe a higher level that a Vea or Payne. in my many, perhaps unrealistic mock drafts, I see the following windows for positions of need: day one contributing WR: rounds 1-2 Rotational DT prospects: 1-7 (seriously) RB: 2-7. this is the deepest position in the draft this year. John Kelly is a baller in the late rounds. Bo Scar. LJ Scott, all would balance well with our current RB room. OG: 1-5... not a lot of OG talent, there is some at the end of th draft I’m sure, but if we want someone to come in and get on the field, it’ll have to be earlier, like second round. Cbs are deep, especially if we need. Nickel corner specifically. safeties, only a handful. we could sign an undrafted FA QB and not rock the boat with AS in someone like Kyle Allen or Lueletta... I also really think we should lock up Z Brown, dude was great in this d last year, pay the man to anchor the D. Snag more DL depth in the later rounds, unless Taven Bryan is there for us in 2nd. We should strongly consider adding explosive offensive talent to make our offense work again. I don’t have the stats but as we know the d was on the field a lot last year. The best defense is a played when a solid, well balanced, great offense goes on long drives and doesn’t throw picks in the red zone.
  10. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    @JamesMadisonSkins It looks like 2nd round we could have options at OG, RB, DT, and even QB. There could be some options at WR too if we go a different direction in the 1st but none that could contribute immediately radially like Kirk/Ridley. I am super high on Taven Bryan, very raw but give him the right coach and he can be JJ Watt ish. Tim Settle too is extremely disruptive. Isiah Wynn could be there in the 2nd, will hernendez, would both be great o line additions, and after the 2nd o line kinda dries up a bit maybe? so yeah I’m with you bro, let’s find that vet anchor in FA and pair that contract and experience with our prized bull in Johnathan Allen, who is better than daron Payne and Vita Vea I think, though all are impressive! The coaching here will continue to play a big role. I see us finding edge somewhere be it Josh Sweat or whoever to get us some speed on the edge if we cant resign Trent Murphy or galette, but again great depth late in the draft at DL. @mistertim I agree completely that it would be silly to guarantee not taking a QB, especially with this QB class, these top 5 guys are going to redefine the league a little. Will be tough to pass on either Lamar or mason in the 2nd. That said, they obviously saw something in the late round QBs from the senior bowl and beyond. I think Kyle Allen is worth a late round flyer. Alex Smith though, you gotta figure, they thought was the best bet for the team, a vet that can run the whole playbook. Hopefully one of the QBs will fall to us in the 1st and another team will really want to snag them and will give us at least one extra pick in the first 3 rounds. If we draft QB too early it will be a distraction but also understandable. Lots of ways to slice the pizza
  11. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Hes gonna be great but faded a little because he’s a NT and his pass rushing chops are a little lacking they say. I’m saying we can use Tomsula to develop even a 2nd rounder or later. We just invested a 1st rounder on DL and he didn’t even play 5 games so it seems like it’s a more of a need than it is. I’m saying Taven bryan tim settle Derrick Nnadi harrison Phillips what about greg Gaines? He looks pretty dang good at stuffing the run too... tons of mid round talent on the DL. WR there are some players avail that are fast but it honestly looks like c Kirk is in a class of his own, runs all the routes and is polished. We need a day 1 WR so getting one later may not work. i heard McShay talking about how you have creators on offense and that takes longer to develop that skill, and on defense, you have disrupters, and they can come in and make an impact much sooner. So if you have some mid round players, like a Fatukasi for example, maybe they are more raw prospects, but have the talent, just not the production, what’s better than Tomsula getting in there and finding his own linemen to develop... i also think vea would be fantastic and I wouldn’t complain. Just making the point that dL can be had later. If Kirk turns out to be the fastest WR we’d have to really think about that.
  12. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    @JamesMadisonSkins I had put this in another thread I think but worth mentioning that some of these top tier RBs have lofty comps per NFL.com: Saquon= Barry Sanders Guice= Marshawn RJ= Jamaal Charles and then Sony= Knoshaun Moreno LJ Scott probably gets that Le’Veon mostly because of MIch state, but he does display some serious patient and an all around skill set that is clearly influenced by Bell but he’s not quite there just yet. Penny I don’t love, there is some complaints with his pass catching ability even though he caught a huge TD pass in the senior bowl. Bo Scar is getting the Derrick Henry comp which is pretty sweet, who wouldn’t want that? Dude is freakish, remember the national champ game last year? I would love to have him mix in with like a 4th or 5th round pick. He’ll test very well and probably go earlier than a 5th tho. John Kelly had himself a game vs Florida, seriouslto my eye test is cut from he Kamara mold- strong, great receiver, solid quickness, and above all, attitude. nyheim Hines is a home run hitter from N.C. state who split time with jaylon Samuels, a serious jack of all trades with quite a combination of size and quickness. akrum Wadley is getting a little Shady comparison here and there, has good speed. Kalen Balage, another name to watch. mark Walton is giving Devante Freeman looks. somebody school me on Kerryon Johnson, I’m just not seeing it with him just yet.... still got nick Chubb. see? Tons and tons of options for late round RBs, deepest position in the draft.
  13. They traded up to get future superstar Dalvin Cook last year in the draft and signed Latavius Murray to a big contract last offseason so chances are they won’t keep him.
  14. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Good points here... It will be tough to pass on either Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph should they fall to us in the 2nd. QB is so important and it really takes a long time to develop there, and we have no youthful promising assets. Either of these guys could be very very good. Won’t happen in the 1st tho! And arguably drafting them in the 2nd will still cause a QB controversy. i keep saying Kyle Allen. Was the top recruit coming out, heads to SEC and beats #2 Auburn in his first game. Then things went sour and he transferred to Houston where he ended up as a backup. Some say he’ll be undrafted and this would be a perfect 2 to 3 year project at very low risk.
  15. Totally agree: https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/jerick-mckinnon/ his sparq score is off the charts at 155. We thought Perine was super strong with his 30 bench press reps- McKinnon did 32. Dang.
  16. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    @clskinsfan well done. I was watching some tale on LJ Scott last night and it was very impressive. Some say the next Le’veon Bell but that’s obviously a very lofty comparison. however it does prove though that there is crazy depth at the RB position this year. According to DJ in this article, he says the RB class is the deepest position in this years draft. That should dictate where we invest as a team. If Saquon is somehow there at 13 then yes lull the trigger, however I don’t feel the same about Guice though I think he could be great. If R.J. or Sony is there in the 2nd we’d have to really consider that, but also if we had to wait to draft an RB there will be options. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000914648/article/nfl-draft-5-prospects-that-will-make-biggest-impact-as-rookies and then, just like, beating dead horse on this thread until I get some feedback or legit reasons why this would not work for us, here’s another endorsement for Christian Kirk. I’ll also say he has the potential to be more than a slot WR but would start there more than likely: It’s also worth mentioning that vita Vea is another player they pegged to have an immediate impact. It’s just that there could be great players in the 2nd round too that will contribute, nd our coaching is so good and this DL class is so deep, it’s hard to justify going DL early for me. Kirks skill set and speed is very rare hence the vote for m to go Kirk in rd 1.
  17. Im gonna geek out a little bit more and share with you guys my current madden roster. resigned Z Brown. made a trade for an OG whose name I can’t remember. signed Jerrick McKinnon (beast). “Drafted” via downloaded roster C Kirk, Dorance Armstrong Jr (edge), and Armani Watts (S) developed I.e. bumped the stats only a little! On C Rullier, starting C, and Fabian Moreau, starting CB2. Honestly I bumped c kirks speed a little too as I thought it was slightly underrated. Net results are incredible. Listen I play lot of madden, on all pro, and this team, in particular, this offense is sick nasty. I kid you not, the season I just ended, Alex Smith had over 7,000 yards passing and C Kirk hauled in 152 catches for 4500 yards and 52 touchdowns. I have never had that great a season. Ever. Lol man. also Alex Smith is sneaky quick and mobile. I heard an interviewer say ’hey you’re the fastest QB in the league’ and AS said that probably Marcus (Mariota) could take him but that’s about it.
  18. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    It looks like our 2nd rounder could have some prospects avail at positions of need... settle, Taven Bryan maybe slips, Trenton Thompson, Nnadi, all could contribute in a rotation on the d line. It’s possible an OG would be there maybe too, will Hernandez, maybe Wynn who yes is awesome, but he might be gone in late 1st. Or we may even have an RB fall into our laps there. So basically whatever position doesn’t get filled in FA we should supplement here. and while I think Derwin James has solid potential, he’s probably not the second coming of ST... I keep thinking someone will want one of these QBs with our 1st and we can get in the back of the round and add a pick and be in a great spot. Plus a lot will change with the combine and big boards.
  19. Hopefully we can snag one of these FAs, keep Long as a backup and develop Chase For starting C. Otherwise, look, Q Nelson won’t be there at 13 and besides, having two 1st round guards on the payroll is a lot of cap space. Totally worth it, but also not that feasible. If we can’t find the right addition in FA then we should hope and pray that a will hernenedez is there for our 2nd rounder. There is some depth later on in the draft here as well. Day one starter they’d have to be early on. Not a lot of Gs in FA so we’ll see, but it seems like they have to have a plan here to get a starter. Super important tho. We can get another RB but with no interior push we ain’t sheet.
  20. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Ok so here’s a random mock that we should examine. https://nflspinzone.com/2018/02/05/nfl-mock-draft-2018-post-super-bowl-two-rounds/ they have us taking Josh Allen with 1st round pick. Anyone have any thoughts there? I mean, I could see it having benefits, but mostly I can see it creating a QB controversy, as someone here pointed out, if we go QB too early on. Could work out but we have other needs to fill. Don’t even bother to advance the pages to the 2nd round. They have some harsh words for our offense though and have us taking James Washington in the 2nd round. Not my first choice but it would work for me. What’s most interesting is they have Kirk going 16 overall to the Ravens, so he’s starting to scootch up some already. Let me say I would opt for Kirk over Josh Allen at this point. i copied and pasted their words re Kirks ability. The rest of it isn’t important. Something about an above average QB needs weapons to succeed blah blah blah: Baltimore has to find a weapon on offense, and Kirk is just that — a weapon. The speedy receiver is reminiscent of Odell Beckham, Jr. of the Giants as he can create separation on routs over the middle, but also has the deep speed to just run by people. The Ravens need a guy like this to make their offense respectable.
  21. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    AJ Green has the prototypical size and strength and kinda wrote the book on the traditional X WR. Sure he can stretch the field, a lot of his talent is in the 50/50 ball. Certainly he is fast enough to get separation as he is the total package. Many comped Doctson to AJ Green, so very similar there. i think if you have a WR with 4.4 ish speed it can create and open things up. To some extent, a lot of grudens offense benefitted from that scheme, and had a capable ‘deep threat’ in desean who was certainly good at tracking the ball and possessed this sort of ability. We kind of need that. I see Doctson as more of the underneath possession guy who could break out still. plus remember, this is a copy cat league. Expect teams to mimic, and getting Alex Smith a Tyreek Hill element could be found in Kirk. He’s not as fast as Tyreek but he’s still a gamebreaker and could contribute immediately as a PR (major need right now) and certain packages... editing this in, I think Kirk is similar to another Christian, McCaffrey, who scouts were a little cold on last year before he rose up the board and went in the top ten. They both can play this gamebreaker role. Both are excellent route runners, C Mac obviously being an Rb is a better fit there, but think of the possibilities, he could be a movable piece. Your ass-talking is spot on. It takes time, sometimes years for a WR to adjust. Scouts say Ridley is ready day one, hence the appeal. Let’s see how they test. I mean, I just don’t see the upside in the FA WRs, but then again ikm just a dude on a couch.
  22. Oh totally agree, you really have to draft a gamebreaker with your #13 overall. I’ve seen D James get the Eric Berry comp... but then again if you also have on the board, a ODB type WR, or a Marshawn Lynch type RB in Guice, who’s the best option? What about the Michael Vick esque QB that could absolutely light it up into the NFL? Can we really pass on that? I mean at this point we probably will, but there is a ton of talent this year. My hope for ILB is that we resign ZB. He was a perfect fit and hopefully he feels at home maybe a little after a s pretty successful season? The only thing a team can do is have an airtight big board and balance it with their current roster and possible FA targets. BSed on that philosophy, I see very little in FA for the type of WR that we need on the field, like, now. Deeper safeties exist too in the draft that *could* pan out even better than James, who knows sometimes, right, anything can happen really. However, speed is speed and athletic ability can be measured. James is a gonna test through the roof at the combine, no doubt. Not ruling him out! He will ball for sure.
  23. Yeah I mean I hate the idea that things got so botched with our QB situation that we had to let go of a seriously talented young draft pick of ours. That said, the QB position, with all of its intricacies and responsibility, is the most important position on the field. Kendall Fuller was an epic slot corner and was coming into his own and will be missed. torian Gray may or may not have known this was going to happen... being a V tech guy it’s tough for him... you gotta figure that they have a plan either via FA or just were feeling good enough with Moreau coming up that they could part ways. Questionable for sure and he will be missed, but I get the smith trade and I like that we have him. now re Su’a I for sure heard he was still recovering from his concussion symptoms all last year... it’s vry strange and maybe we don’t have the full story, but I’m not writing him off yet. HE was our 2nd rounder, I mean, that’s a bigger loss than fuller IMHO, at least, asset/value-wise. id also add in that re safety, we just drafted monte and it’s going well. We just signed D.J. and it’s going well. Inevitably, really only two safeties can be on the field at the same time (obviously sometimes teams employ 3 safeties). So all in all, that’s a lot of resources to spend in a short time on a position if we went 1st round Derwin, which I am not altogether opposed to. Plus again, I feel like there are some Fa options there as we have a lot of youth currently on the roster at FA and not a lot of vet savvy aside from DJ who I love btw. Just trying to sort out the Shhh storm if you will.
  24. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Right on. Yeah I mean I have faith in Doctson, he’s a baller and can high point and is very good. Do I think he can handle the load next year by himself, in a sense? Maybe... its just this, specifically- blazing speed and gamebreaker ability to stretch the defense thus opening up the underneath stuff for Jordan Reed and co. The role has been there in this very offense for years with D Jack and suffered last year without it. This offense was reeling last year with the loss Of two top WRs but mostly in a sense that no one could take the top off. Given Alex Smith's newfound ability to go deep, and the need for that trade to work out the best that it can, I wouldn’t rule out them boosting offense and WR early in the draft. Even second round, James Washington, Anthony Miller maybe. They will need to be day one contributors so waiting too late in the draft might backfire, unless they feel like there’s a guy back there. To me we already have the developmental player in r Davis... maybe he’ll be ready? The point here is also, who in the Fa market can fill this void of the deep play playmaker WR? No one, really. The Tyreek Hill or desean deep threat replacement should be a consideration. Would it be hard to pass on Payne or James? Yes. Are there guys in Fa that can fill a similar need? OG even? Yes I think so. Couple that with Tomsula and DL upgrade could be a combo of a FA DT, a later round D lineman (class is deep) and good coaching. Don’t forget this team and defense was decimated with injuries last year. Safety is also deep in the draft, Jordan Whitehead could come in and play some games...
  25. freakofthesouth

    2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    If you’re talking about Doctson then i’ll just link in his profile here, he ran a 4.5, which you’re right, isn’t blazing, but his catch radius and sparq score, for what’s its worth, is very athletic. You might be talking about Ryan Grant?? Sorry not sure... http://dev.playerprofiler.com/nfl/josh-doctson/ last year was developmental for J Doc. At least he stayed healthy. He had a lot of pressure and big shoes to fill with a QB who had one foot out the door. He also flashed some serious playmaking ability (that catch against Seattle won the game). He can be legit #1, he just needs a complimentary WR, one that can eat up coverage with tha Breakaway speed. It’s hard to find, but again, TWO candidates at the top of the WR draft board could do it. Maybe a late round WR that has straight line speed could too, but the idea of having two young super talented WRs is very very tempting.