visionary

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  1. 22 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

    You don’t think that flip flop has anything to do with him leading in donations from the healthcare sector?

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/07/20dems-are-taking-money-healthcare/

     

    I think corporate shill is deserved.

    You may be right, but I think it’s more likely that his advisors saw his surge receding and decided that he would not beat out Bernie and Warren on the left and would be better situated to pick up votes from the middle if Biden or other minor candidates started to fall.  I think that’s why a lot of his positions seem to be  more moderate the last couple of weeks or so and he’s attacking other candidates now.  

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  2. Did they say who specifically they supported?   Also I notice you mentioned earlier that at least some of them voted for Hillary, but I assume the woman at the end there didn't?

     

    4 minutes ago, tshile said:

    I don’t disagree with that except to say that the people I’m talking about don’t watch or listen to the media you’re talking about. 
     

    the whole thing feels similar to the electors college arguments. I may not agree with dems on the solution of using a popular vote, but I understand why they see it the way they do. 
     

    but that doesn’t change the rules of the game and the way it’s played. Complain all you want, if you don’t figure out how to play the game by its rules you’re not going to win...

     

    likewise, trotting Warren out there and saying “but you don’t understand the definition of socialism” doesn’t feel like a winning strategy to me. 
     

    of course my criticisms may be unfair at the moment because you might not be able to fix this in a primary. You might have to wait until the general and there’s 1 candidate to discuss. 
     

    it just doesn’t feel good to me at the moment. I want trump out. Clinton getting involved and nominating someone that carries the “socialist baggage” doesn’t feel like a winning move. 
     

    a woman the other night said “I can’t believe they’re going to nominate another woman I can’t vote for”. This person hates trump. These people exist. It seems to me the Democrats need them. But what do I know? I thought there was no way trump could win.