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  1. 7 minutes ago, PeterMP said:


    1.  I hate the idea of our guy only interprets the law.  Show me where the law says the President can't be indicted.


    2.  Just because something cannot be proven at any given point in time doesn't mean it is an illusion, especially if you are removing media reports and allegations.  At this point in time, that's all we have.  I can't prove that Harvey Weistein committed sexual assault if you remove media reports and allegations, but that doesn't meant that he did is an illusion either.

    1. Well, according the DOJ, twice, a sitting President cannot be indicted. Though my guess is that wouldn't cover murder, etc... But I truly don't know. And, don't care. If a serious crime is committed, like perjury, for instance, or working with any foreign government to hurt the US, I think they should be dismissed from office, charged, and prosecuted immediately. But, the lawyers will have to figure all that out.

    2. But the presumption of innocence is supposed to be the way it goes. The left believes he's guilty of everything anyone can make up. He may be guilty, he may not be. I personally find it amusing that people act like meddling in elections, by every friggin country than can, including the US, hasn't been happening forever, and will continue to, forever. Funny, after all the years of dead people, non-citzens, and double dippers voting in our elections, the left all of a sudden cares about election security.

  2. 5 minutes ago, mistertim said:


    With all of the smoke pointing to possible collusion you're saying that common sense demands that it's all an illusion? That's like saying that common sense dictates that -Trump being recorded bragging about sexually assaulting women, settling over a dozen sexual harassment/abuse lawsuits by various women, having a history of cheating on wives, apparently banging a porn star while his wife was with their newborn and then paying her off later to not talk about it, and quite possibly having done the same with other women- means that Trump is actually a very chaste and faithful man who would never even think of doing any of those sorts of things.


    Do you actually believe the stuff you type? I have to ask because the mental gymnastics one would have to do internally would be absolutely mind bending I'd think they would likely lead to a psychotic break.




    I think we finally figured out what happened to Giuliani...

    Obviously, the flip side of this is that, the mental gymnastics reside almost exclusively on the left. The "smoke" as you call it, comes from left wing fantasy land, backed up by CNN, and shrieked daily by never Trumpers. The sudden concern over sexual discretions by the left is cute, and all, but it rings hollow after the last 20yrs, in combination with the plethora of sexual deviants coming out of the woodwork on the left.  So spare me the indignation. We'll have to see how it all ends.

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  3. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/judge-brett-kavanaugh-faithfully-applies-the-law-instead-of-making-it-up

    Just now, Llevron said:


    You cant ge independent and say collusion illusion. Sorry bro. Independent card denied. 

    Sure I can. Because the charge of collusion, is an illusion, born of confusion.

    Common sense demands it. Prove collusion. Then we'll talk.


    BTW, media reports, allegations, and continued shrieking, isn't proof.


  4. 7 minutes ago, Larry said:


    How much did your employer pay per month, for each of those?  


    What changed in terms of what is or isn't covered, between now and then?  


    Our costs I listed were AFTER the company paid half. (We had a different deal than most in the company, as a perc)

    Used to have limitless doctor visits, with a $20 copay. Now we get 1 yearly checkup, with a $50 copay. Others are now $80, out of pocket, until deduction is met.

    As part of all our old plans, Spiriva script was $30 month. Latest plan is $75 a month, on top of a yearly $250 deductible.

    I think it's a $20 increase for referrals. Which is new to our latest plan. 

  5. 5 minutes ago, Bang said:

    And of course, the insurance companies are not to blame in any way at all for jacking up rates when presented with the opportunity to do so.



    No, you're right, Bang. The insurance companies are a major contributor. 

    But just like a QB gets the blame, or the credit, for whatever happens, Obama was at the helm when this thing was forced on the country. That's the way things go. in reality, I think the d leadership had much more to do with plan than Obama did. But, he was the guy in charge, and could have held them up to do a better plan, instead of ramming it down everyone's throat. Knowing once it was implementing it, it would be damn hard to get rid of.


    Wasn't even one of the main the architects of it caught on tape laughing at how the media and the public were intentionally duped into buying the lies used to sell it? Can't remember his name.


    I also left out ****ing about prescription costs because it's not fair to pin that on Obama. Although he, like every other President so far, failed to do anything about it, that made sense.

  6. 13 minutes ago, Busch1724 said:


    This is a statement you should provide some data for. In my previous research, this is not true. You made the claim, prove it. 




    A starting point...

    Well, I'm not putting my information on here for you to see. And I don't really care how it's affected other people. I know what it's done to me. I pay the bills. Not going to put my friends business on the web either. But I know what they tell me, and I believe them. Even the uber left friends that I have. My assertions are based on that.


    We used to pay, in the last year of Bush, around $200 a month, with a $250ea deductible, for a good family plan.

    We now pay $1000 a month, with a $2000ea deductible. 


    And our increases are now paying for our insurance, plus people who I don't know, or give a rats ass about. No, healthcare is not a right, IMO.

    So, for me, Obamacare has been a botched abortion. And my money is all I care about.

  7. 2 hours ago, Larry said:


    People don't oppose it.  


    With the exception of the individual mandate, take every major facet of the ACA, and ask people if they like it, and they approve of it.  (And, unfortunately, the individual mandate is necessary.)  


    Ask people if they like the ACA, as a whole, and they approve of it.  


    If you ask people if they like "Obamacare", a slim plurality oppose it.  (If you lump the people who want to eliminate it, and the people who think it didn't go far enough, together.)  


    If the voters (as a whole) actually wanted it repealed, the GOP would have done so.  And immediately, loudly, taken credit for doing so.  


    And I haven't seen a single person trying to claim that the Dems didn't pass Obamacare.  They only refuse to take credit for the Republican sabotage of it.  You know, the parts that the Republicans did.  (And are still doing.  And denying that they're doing.)  

    I don't now what people you're talking about. But I would think it's likely that they are the ones receiving something without having to pay.


    While they exist, I'm sure, I don't know a single person who saved $2000 a year with it's passage. To the contrary, everyone I know is paying higher premiums, and have higher deductions. And the rate at which these things have risen far exceed any other time period before it's inception. The company we get our insurance through has had to switch plans 4 times, trying to reduce the impact on employees. Resulting in many having to switch doctors.


    It's a horrible plan that the D's are responsible for. 

    And the spineless R's are still more concerned with trying to impress the media, so they will like them, (which will never, ever happen) and not surprisingly lack the balls to take full ownership of burying the piece of garbage, with the elections coming up.


    If they can increase their numbers in the midterms, they may finally take a weedeater to it. 

    I for one, hope they do.


    EDIT: I do have some Democrat friends that **** and moan as much as I do about the astronomical rise in their costs since it's inception. But they're staunch D's, and will never criticize anything their party does. Especially President Obama.

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  8. 47 minutes ago, PF Chang said:


    Trump's despicable, and the lesser of two evils, but in the next paragraph you're repeating his dumb phrases. Drain the swamp, witch hunt, Democrat dossier. 


    The Ax doth protest too bigly, methinks

    The thing is, Chang, you don't have to like the terms. But they're accurate.


    Draining The Swamp: I, and many others, have, will, and do believe, that term limits are desperately needed for Congress. Far too often we're stuck, for years, with the likes of Robert Byrd, Strom Thurmond, Nancy Pelosi, etc... That's one form of draining the swamp. Getting rid of dumb laws, regulations, and backroom deals grandfathered in from year to year, is another form of draining the swamp. There's more than that, but I'm sure you get my meaning. Using the phrase is just quick and easy. But it covers a lot.


    Witch Hunt: With little more than a Hillary financed dossier, filled with unverified drivel, supplied by those rascally Russians, Bob Mueller, who tried to ruin the life of a previous target, based on the testimony of 2 barking dogs, is now using a team filled Democrat hacks, to try and find something, anything, to bring down the President. Although he hasn't laid a glove on him, to date, the left wing media has been reporting that, "soon" the smoking gun is coming, since the day Mueller was named to investigate...something. There were no witches. That's why the hunt was ridiculous. Unless and until Trump is proved to have committed a crime, and not by some internet Marcia Clark wannabe, it's just another witch hunt. Or, if you prefer, a farce.


    Democrat Dossier: See above.


    The left, doth convict without proof, too much.

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  9. 12 minutes ago, killerbee99 said:

    I don't get it.. Why engage the guy who won't change his views.... It's just a freaking circular argument that goes nowhere it's obvious he is a Trump MAGA lover who loves every despicable thing this Piece of **** president does......

    Like for real the FBI is out to get Trump... Wtf... Get out of here with that bull****

    Well kb, there aren't many, if any, guys here that will actually change their views. Some may claim they would. But few actually ever do. So. I fit in very well.


    I also know few believe me, or even care, but I don't love every despicable thing President Trump may do. I also don't blindly believe every accusation against him, just because it's against him. Like so many here do. It all came down to two choices for me. Him, or Hillary. Two equally despicable human beings.

    But policy wise, for me, Trump was the only choice. I pulled the lever fully aware that I was voting for the lesser of 2 evils.


    And remember, Mueller, Comey and the FBI went after Steven Hatfill as the anthrax perpetrator. Based mostly on the testimony of 2 barking dogs. Hatfill was exonerated, and won a multi-million dollar lawsuit. So, it's not out of the realm of possibility for swamp members of the FBI to "get" the guy who said he would drain that swamp. Between two barking dogs, and a Democrat paid for dossier filled with BS acquired by Russians, you'll have to excuse me for having a lack of faith in the witch hunt.

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  10. 8 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:


    Trump has been credibly accused of the same type of conduct that you are so upset that Bill Clinton did.  You can either be consistent or be a hypocrite.  I honestly don't care, your credibility can't really go any lower.  

    Sorry, I missed the allegation of forced intercourse against Trump. Not saying groping and kissing are acceptable behavior. But they don't equal forcing a penis into a women.


    Hey! Nowhere to go but up!



  11. 2 minutes ago, Larry said:


    Yeah, I'm certain that a person who has bragged about the fact that for his entire life, he has believed that power is something that one uses to grab women by the ***** (including women the age and appearance of his daughter), once he is granted vastly more power, will stop doing it.  


    Abraham Lincoln is quoted as saying "if you want to test a man's character, give him power".  Everything I've seen from Donald Trump sure says to me that he'll pass that test.  


    Please, feel free to run through some more of your menu of excuses you've been fed, for why Donald Trump strolling through the dressing rooms of teenage beauty contestants is morally cool for you, but Bill Clinton is a multiple rapist.  

    There are many distasteful things about Trump. I've already said I wouldn't want him married to my sister. I also know, if he ever groped my sister, like some of these women have alleged, she would have knocked him out on the spot. If he's dumb enough to continue this kind of alleged behavior, knowing the microscope he's under, then he deserves to get caught. But so far, there's nothing close to a stained blue dress.

  12. 22 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

    Well damn. I was wrong about there not being a number of women making allegations. Some are most likely true.

    Damn perv.


    But actually reading the whole story, it's also most likely that most were indeed politically, or financially motivated.


    I still don't equate "his hand then brushed against my breast", with, "He raped me."

  13. 52 minutes ago, tshile said:

    We've already seen that Trump's base has no moral standard. They don't care who he's slept with, when, or how he has treated people throughout his life. 


    They will obviously hold moral standards for others and loudly feign moral outrage when it lets them complain about others, but there is no standard for Trump.


    I can only speak for myself, t, but I'd say moral standards in this country have accelerated in getting worse since the Clinton Sexcapades.

    On both sides, and in the middle.

    But we survived Clinton. We'll survive Trump.


    However, a big difference here is that, so far, Trump's infidelities happened before he was elected. Unlike Clinton, and Kennedy. Their's were before, and during.

    Trump's all seem to be consensual. Like Kennedy's were. 

    I haven't seen where numerous women have accused him of varying degrees of rape, like Clinton.

    And, to date, no assertions that the Secret Service had to participate in White House rendezvous as they did under Clinton, and Kennedy.

    I'd say the feigned moral outrage is coming now, from the left, over affairs that happened years ago. Outside of the White House.

    Many of the same ones who said, "It's just sex", to cover for Bill.


    If Trump gets caught getting blowjobs from an intern in a White House foyer, or has the Secret Service shuttling his dalliances in and out of the White House. Or otherwise being forced to put up with it, I'll scream as loud as anyone to throw him out the door.  

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  14. https://nypost.com/2018/07/28/trumps-demise-has-been-greatly-exaggerated/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow


    Trump's Demise Greatly Exaggerated  By Kyle Smith


    "If you ever lose faith in fairy tales and it occurs to you that Trump isn't going anywhere anytime soon, though, there is something you can do. You can keep smashing up Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame with a pickaxe. That'll show him."

  15. 14 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

    Millions voted illegally

    DNC servers are missing

    Unemployment numbers are fake until I'm president and then they're real

    Favorite book is the bible

    Steele dossier is the reason the investigation started

    Illegal spying

    ice caps are back and at record levels

    Russia didn't meddle in the election

    I never said Russia didn't meddle in the election


    Just scratching the surface.....

    1. Yeah, millions seems a stretch. Tens of thousands are probably the minimum though.

    2. Oh, Hillary knows what happened to them, so they're not missing. Too bad the FBI never got access to all they wanted to. Whether they're still hidden, or physically destroyed like so many other electronic devices were.

    3. They all play that game. But the historically low unemployment among blacks and Hispanics are happening under President Trump.

    4. Lots of people enjoy fiction.

    5. True.

    6. We'll find out if it was legal or not. but it happened.

    7. Didn't hear that one. But anything that says that man made global warming is BS, is closer to the truth than man made global warming.

    8. They meddled. China meddled. Others I'm sure. Just as we meddle in theirs. But they had no effect on the election. Shrieking that they did doesn't make it so.

    9. He knows what the fake news headlines will be if he ever says anything like that. 

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  16. 14 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said:

    I want to quit looking at this thread. It lost almost all interest to me like 3 days ago when it took me 9 minutes to out the current, er, contwarian, as a bullshiiter of the second-highest order (just below Trump).  


    I admit, however, that I am very much enjoying @Sacks 'n' Stuff both destroy his rhetoric and brutally clown him at the same time.  I cant stop clicking on it. 

    Might be mildly amusing if it actually happened. But like so many other leftwing fantasies, it didn't. 

    Maybe the Marcia Clark's of the world are impressed. I just see as more of the left inventing what happened, or what was said, and then being critical about, while slapping each other on the back in congratulations of burning another straw man. Weak sauce!

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  17. Gonna be a lot of disappointed people here once this farce of an investigation is over. 

    No charges against Trump. How could there be? Even Obama said it was impossible to rig the election. Which it is. 

    No impeachment.

    Hold both the House and Senate in the mid-terms. At worst. Gains in both a good chance.

    Re-election in 2020.

    At least 1 more Supreme Court appointment.

    Might have to rename the forum Trump's Tailgate. Hell, he already occupies a lot of space here.


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