BatteredFanSyndrome

There’s literally nothing to suggest that our coaches are in the bag for Daniels, nor Peters is succumbing to pressure from them to draft him.

I have all the respect in the world for Keim, but at this point in the game, I see no reason why anyone would leak to him where guys sit on the board. I see more reason to feed the media with false information from a strategic perspective.

We always load up our pasta with veg when making any spaghetti-ish dish. We use the Barilla protein penne, and load up with bell peppers, onions, mushrooms, zucchini and lean ground beef to fill up the plate without as many carbs.

No matter what I do, I can’t get the color I’d prefer grilling over high heat on a pellet grill, even with 100% charcoal pellets. Still tastes great though. Filet seasoned with a mixture of Holy Cow, and Kinders Cowboy Butter and Caramelized Onion Butter rubs. Onions, shrooms, and garlic finished with W sauce and garlic butter when they came off, and corn with roasted potatoes.

I’m trying to remember a time there was so much being said in the rumor mill. My gut says the overwhelming majority of it is BS. So many narratives being thrown at the wall, none of it sticks.

Audacity level: 💯 Are you really pretending that you utilize the board solely for discussion and debate, without mocking people? C’mon man.

I don't know of anyone who claims to be smarter or know more than FO people. It's a completely bad faith way to belittle people's opinions. Because that's what they are, opinions. Opinions about football players. You should be able to express the opinion that a move could be a mistake without someone straw manning the claim that you think you know everything. There are people here who simply express opinions about football players in the way you’ve proclaimed here and nobody is talking about that. Thats what the board is for. I have nothing against strong opinions by folks who take the hobby of scouting football players seriously. In fact, @Skinsinparadise is a shining example of how to do that in a way that doesn’t ooze delusion and arrogance. There’s a difference between developing strong opinions on a player and just flat out indicting Peters and the top brass with all sorts of completely made up stuff like their decisions are all about trying to win now, or that Quinn wants a running QB because it’s harder for him to defend, or that if they don’t select Maye it’s a bad process no matter how each player turns out, and any other made up narratives like that. Conveniently enough you mention several players you were right about, where others were wrong, without any mention of those you got wrong. We all get some right and get some wrong. The best of the best that do this for a living get a lot wrong. Again, there’s a difference between being having a strong opinion based on analysis and just outright making up narratives- which is what my point has been all along. There are some very strong statements built on flimsy foundations running amuck in here and I’m not talking about being concerned with Daniel’s pressure to sack rate or Maye’s footwork.

You seem to really take my comments on this subject very personal, as if you read my posts and feel that you are being targeted. I’m aware that there are folks in every organization, across all industries, that don’t belong there - including the NFL for sure. I said this earlier and I’ll say it again, I have no qualms with folks who enjoy scouting for hobby, and talk passionately about their analysis. But there’s a line where it becomes laughable just how overly confident and arrogant some folks can be.

I take no issue with folks putting their hat in the ring and having strong opinions about anything. But I can’t help but laugh at the arrogance of folks who haven’t so much as drafted a kid in Pop Warner standing on a pedestal talking about it’s their way or the highway.

That’s really not my point at all. I could name several times where I’ve been right and the scouts and GM’s have been wrong myself. But we are at a point where some posters will literally claim they are right, even if they are wrong, because their choice is the right choice via the right process. And all sort of other mental gymnastics. Posters I’ve watched die on hill after hill over players and still pretend they are alive

It’s wild to me that we legitimately have folks in their basement that think they are better suited as general managers than guys who have ate, slept, and played football since they were embryos. The delusion is unreal.

I desperately want to hurl insults at the opposition, and here I am just sitting on the fence.

My primary point was that neither give me the warm and fuzzies. Not that giving me the warm and fuzzies is a proven method for determining QB success. I realize we are fortunate to be in this position and I like who we’ve got making the pick. At the end of the day, I’m going to be very hopeful about whoever we draft. Just for whatever reason, I can’t join the fray and be gung ho about either guy.

I’ve been wrong about a lot of QBs. Just because I’m not lathered up for either guy, doesn’t mean that I believe they are destined to stink. I lean Maye because he’s the physical prototype and made the most big time throws. I should love him, but I just dont.

Not true at all. Just don’t love either of these guys.