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#1 jbooma

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 09:04 AM

There will be about 10 openings this year for HC positions. Do you think any of the good candidates will come here and work for Synder???? NO

Spurrier would be still be the best coach we can get. When will some of you wake up and realize that???

If we get rid of Spurrier next year will be worse.

#2 Dan T.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:02 AM

Something else to consider. I think our biggest asset next year is Patrick Ramsey. Canning Spurrier will be a setback to Patrick's progress.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:06 AM

Spurrier's "throw it to a spot" offense is counter-intuitive to what all QBs are taught at the college level--ie reading the defense. It is possible that Patrick could blossum in another more conventional system.

#4 Leonard Washington

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:06 AM

our defense is our biggest problem when it should be our biggest asset. we need a new defensive strategy.

#5 KDawg

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:07 AM

Yeah, a strategy appropriately titled:
"STAY THE F%*K HOME!"

:D

Uhh that could interpreted in two different ways, couldn't it? :D

#6 Kilmer17

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:08 AM

We dont need another big named coach.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:10 AM

Snyder's image in regards to prospective NFL head coaches has faced scrutiny prior to Spurrier's arrival so to believe that candidates are not already cautious of "the potential" of working with Snyder, isn't exactly befitting of reality.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:10 AM

If we got Ralph Freigen, that would be huge...figuratively and literally.

I would take Dave McGinnis if the Cards fired him--he got that team to play hard consistently. I mean, can anyone name an above average player on that team? Leonard Davis?

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:11 AM

One good reason to not get rid of the OBC posted:


umm...


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Sorry...couldn't think of one.

#10 Skins24

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Kilmer17
We dont need another big named coach.

Define "big named coach"

Bill Parcells is a "big named coach" no?

#11 Kilmer17

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:18 AM

Parcells is one of the top 5 of all time. If Gibbs would come back that would be the exception. Otherwise we need to find a NEW Joe Gibbs.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:53 AM

Give me a call when they make cloning legal. SOmeone just needs to steal Gibbs' hat at a Nascar race. One strand of hair and the Redskins are redeemed! :laugh: :rolleyes:

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:56 AM

I agree with Jbooma. Let Spurrier cut his own throat so that when he quits, we can (hopefully) get a coach with a clue.
No way anybody decent would come here if we fire yet another coach. I think the Danfather knows this.
Please God, let him know this.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Dan T.
Something else to consider. I think our biggest asset next year is Patrick Ramsey. Canning Spurrier will be a setback to Patrick's progress.


Dan = str8 smart

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:57 AM

Originally posted by GGB81
Spurrier's "throw it to a spot" offense is counter-intuitive to what all QBs are taught at the college level--ie reading the defense. It is possible that Patrick could blossum in another more conventional system.


Reading a defense is the KEY to Spurrier's offense. Reading a defense is something that Ramsey has struggled at but TH has thrived at.

The difference in Spurrier's offense (and Ernie Zampese's) is that the qb and wr are looking for holes in the defense that the routes create and a WCO offense has a progression of WR1, WR2, WR3 and so on...

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:57 AM

Pick up Johnson from Philly and cut our losses.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:05 PM

Originally posted by codeorama


Reading a defense is the KEY to Spurrier's offense. Reading a defense is something that Ramsey has struggled at but TH has thrived at.

The difference in Spurrier's offense (and Ernie Zampese's) is that the qb and wr are looking for holes in the defense that the routes create and a WCO offense has a progression of WR1, WR2, WR3 and so on...


I disagree. Ramsey read coverages well. You may remember Jaworski, Salisbury, Aikman, Theismann, in the early part of the year commenting on how well Ramsey picked up the open reciever. Until he obviously got injured, screwed up his mechanics and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Patrick did have trouble picking up the blitz. Which was evident when he got sacked one billion times. There is no reason to believe, however, that one more good offseason of studying won't fix his weakness. The old ballcoach is still a great QB coach regardless of what all yall think of him. Let's see how the offense runs under Patrick next year before we bring all out changes and jump out of the boat.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Dan T.
Something else to consider. I think our biggest asset next year is Patrick Ramsey. Canning Spurrier will be a setback to Patrick's progress.


Oh yeah. We all some Patrick Ramsey blossom this year with all those hits. Ramsey will never complete a full season in this system.

Spurrier has everything to do with Ramsey's success as a pro.

He was quoted after the Titans game last year saying "Sh!t... I didn't know he could do that."

He's got a great handle on things.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 01:17 PM

I think it will be progress for Ramsey he was a sitting duck in Spurriers offense didn't you watch the games?

Money speaks! I think if we want someone we can get them since Dan isn't affraid to throw the dough.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 01:22 PM

Well Die Hard, considering Hasselbacks play with the exception of last week....i think Spurrier is great at tutoring yound QB's (and Hasselback seems pretty pleased to be working in the system). Another thing with Ramsey last year against the Titan's is that Ramsey showed very little to the coach to let him think he could do that. I mean he missed pretty much all of training camp and Spurrier was working with his guys to try and get as many wins as he could.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 01:57 PM

jbooma wrote
<quote>There will be about 10 openings this year for HC positions. Do you think any of the good candidates will come here and work for Synder???? NO </quote>
As history has shown: "When money talks .. " even Marty Schottenheimer comes to work for Snyder; and he was (and probably stil is) considered a good coach for many.

#22 jbooma

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Die Hard


Oh yeah. We all some Patrick Ramsey blossom this year with all those hits. Ramsey will never complete a full season in this system.



Well Tim is playing the same system but is not getting sacked ;)

If Ramsey wouldn't think to much and try not to make the big play every play he would be okay. He has to learn to get rid of the ball faster.

#23 Die Hard

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:07 PM

Originally posted by jbooma



Well Tim is playing the same system but is not getting sacked ;)

If Ramsey wouldn't think to much and try not to make the big play every play he would be okay. He has to learn to get rid of the ball faster.


How many times does it need to be said that the Redskins offense under Hasselbeck is NOT the F'n'G.

It's been said by Spurrier and Parcells. They've scaled back the offense considerably.

#24 GB81

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:14 PM

There seems to be a lot of "I like Spurrier, so he must be good" going around. It comes from the same people that say every person in the media hates the Redskins.

I get really embarassed for people when they write that stuff.

This is the salary cap era...continuity is a luxury, to say the least. It is a win now league. When you sh*t the bed in back to back years (after making fun of other coaches for working too hard in your initial press conferences), you don't get a third.

#25 jbooma

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Die Hard


How many times does it need to be said that the Redskins offense under Hasselbeck is NOT the F'n'G.

It's been said by Spurrier and Parcells. They've scaled back the offense considerably.



But it is still Spurrier he prepares the QB. Yesterday we saw the FNG.

#26 Die Hard

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:26 PM

In Buffalo, with Rob Johnson, we didn't. In Washington, against the Cowboys, we didn't.

#27 JerseyGator

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 06:33 PM

I don't get to see all the games, but I don't get the feeling that we've seen all of the Fun N Gun for a while, really since the game at Dallas.

I think it will return with Ramsey's return and a reliable OL. Spurrier isn't just the FNG though. I've seen him resort on occasion to smashmouth and a heavy reliance on the Tight End. His running schemes are rather simple, but I believe so were Jimmy Johnson's in Dallas, where the talent more than made up for it.

When I see the Emory and Henry play, then I know that the fun & gun will have returned.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 06:36 PM

Originally posted by jbooma
There will be about 10 openings this year for HC positions. Do you think any of the good candidates will come here and work for Synder???? NO

Spurrier would be still be the best coach we can get. When will some of you wake up and realize that???

If we get rid of Spurrier next year will be worse.



Bull****. Spurrier is the worst coach in the nfl right now and we can get plenty of coaches to replace him and I'd say most of them will be much better than what we have.

#29 Even Madder

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 06:58 PM

We don't need an imaginative, offensive-minded coaching "genius". We need a motivational ass-kicker who will let his assistants draw up trick plays and spend his time building discipline and enthusiasm.

How proud do you think Spurrier was of his little punter-pass thing? Or pulling off his Gardner pass twice (despite what the refs said)? He was grinning ear to ear, went over to congratulate Morton -- all this during a losing effort where the defense was getting ass-raped like Paris Hilton in a cheap homemade porno.

We don't need that. We need someone to yell at players on the sidelines when they freelance. Someone to bench a "star" for dropping a ball or missing a block. Someone to kick someone's ass for their fourth unsportsmanlike conduct call. We need an ass-kicker.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 08:13 PM

Originally posted by Skins_KDawg
Yeah, a strategy appropriately titled:
"STAY THE F%*K HOME!"

:D

Uhh that could interpreted in two different ways, couldn't it? :D


AMEN.

Although I would like a blitz-happy defense like the Eagles or the 49ers. Damn I love watching them bring the house.

You know who else used to bring the house? The Titans, when Gregg Williams was their DC. Watch the first half of the Super Bowl against the Rams. You know what I'm talkin about.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 08:15 PM

Originally posted by GGB81
If we got Ralph Freigen, that would be huge...figuratively and literally.

I would take Dave McGinnis if the Cards fired him--he got that team to play hard consistently. I mean, can anyone name an above average player on that team? Leonard Davis?


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