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      Good afternoon Redskins nation!  I’m in beautiful Landover, MD with Spaceman Spiff who has been pulled away from Instagram models and tailgating and sent down to the field to do what he does best (roll around in the mud).
       
      Let’s get down to business...  Can we block them?  There are other story lines entering into this game but worrying about them feels largely academic.  The Texans have two terrifying pass rushers and the Redskins intend to block them with optimism and underdog stories.  Alex Smith isn’t a statue but he does take time in making decisions and getting the ball out.  This combination looks disastrous.  The sort of thing that has us all after the game consoling each other with things like “well, it was just a bad matchup" and “we caught them at the worst possible time.” 
       
      Or... we could walk away wondering just how the heck this team managed to pull off another improbable win.  Last week the gave up something like twelve thousand yards of offense to the Bucs, I’ll have to check those numbers to be sure, but only three points.  That’s not supposed to happen.  Maybe we can enjoy an outrageously unlikely result again.  Not probably, not likely, but you know... maybe.  I’m saying there’s a chance.   
       
      I’m here for that chance.  (and you know... the free food and climate controlled free seats) 

      1st Quarter Update
      Redskins are running their bend and break defense, and I’m not sure a little over three quarters is enough time for the Redskins offense to close a 10-point gap.  I’m having flash backs of week nine, but having human emotions is considered “disruptive behavior.”  I'm fine.  Everything is fine. 
       
      That Quinn celebration, whatever that was, was the highlight of the 1st quarter. 
       
      2nd Quarter Update
      Is there a better way to start a quarter than by scoring a touchdown?  There is, if you follow that TD drive with a forced turnover on defense.  Things are looking good! 

      So much for that.  A great start was quickly ended up canceled out by the Redskins offense.  With a chance to take a lead Alex Smith throws a pick six in the red zone and takes the air out of the stadium.  He followed that up by throwing another interception on the very next drive.  Alex Smith almost made me forget about Vernon Davis dropping that pass.  Almost. 
       
      Texans missed a field goal attempt and the lead remains frozen at 10. 
       
      This quarter feels like a giant blown opportunity.  
       
      Halftime Update. 
      I should have stopped at one hotdog.  I deserve this.
       
      3rd Quarter Update
      You know the feeling where you say and think all these bad things about a player and then he breaks his leg and you immediately feel bad about it?  I live there now.
       
      Colt McCoy has freed me from that place of sadness! 
       
      As much as I love this defense, they have to start forcing teams to punt at some point.  Is there a stat for defense tha thas forced the fewest punts?  We have to be near the top of that list.  Texans have punted just once today.  Holding them to three was good, though.   
       
      The lead is down to six and Colt McCoy has arrived to save us.  (Please let that be true.) 
       
      Personal Note:  Someone just stomped, loudly, out of the press area like a while muttering at his phone.  Laughter and comparisons to toddlers followed him.  The media's laugh is an evil laugh!  Good times. 
       
      4th Quarter Update
      Colt has brought us back.  Welcome to the first lead change of the season, Redskins fans.  You like that?!  (Yeesh, was that always so lame?)  I guess you could say Adrian Peterson contributed by actually scoring the touchdown.  I bet Colt told him to score though, so you have to factor leadership into things.
       
      Once again, the defense cannot force a punt, hard to feel great about holding a team to a field goal when that field goal gives them the lead in the 4th quarter 
       
      Remember that whole "can we block them" thing?  The answer was absolutely not on the Redskins 2nd drive of the 4th quarter.  Watt and Clowney each sacked our man Colt, and ended that drive before it really had a chance to begin. 
       
      Horrible, no good, very bad holding called on Norman gifting Houston a first down at the worst possible time for it.
       
      Colt chooses to throw deep at an inopportune moment resulting in a 60+ yard attempt for an injured kicker.  Heartbreaking end to a game that cost this team entirely too much (via injury) yet still seemed to be within reach several times. 
       
      I'm off to the post game press conference and locker room, check back later for updates.
       
      Final Thoughts
      I’ve always found it preferable to watch my favorite team simply get destroyed, than to feel that they were the better team and still managed to lose.  The Redskins gave this game away with mistakes in the 2nd quarter.  Fred Davis makes a routine catch and Alex Smith doesn’t throw a pick six, and the scoreboard shows at least 7 fewer points for the Texans.  Even if the Redskins had settled for field goals, that’s a 13 point swing in 2 point game.   
       
      Losing the game wasn’t even the worst part.  Losing Alex Smith, for at least the remainder of the season, is likely enough to push the Redskins past the point where they can continue toughing their way through key injuries. 
       
      We'll all feel better after a win against the Cowboys next week. 
       
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NYT - Redskins Cheerleaders Describe Trip to Costa Rica that Crossed the Line

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5 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

You thought 'they don't get paid much, so who cares if they're treated like sex slaves?' would come across as insensitive? How so?

You live a very sheltered life if you think this some big ass deal..these girls flaunt there **** for every person to see on game day, yet it's a big deal that they get asked to dress sleazy to entertain some rich guy..If they don't want to do it than don't..whats the worst thing that is gonna happen to them? Get fired? OMG what would they do then?GTFO out with your sensitive ass..

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3 hours ago, Dissident2 said:

they said that Snyder would ask for outtakes from the video footage of these cheerleader trips, and that there was indeed nudity.

 

The ficus plant in Synder's office must be absolutely disgusting.

 

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7 minutes ago, bh32 said:

You live a very sheltered life if you think this some big ass deal..these girls flaunt there **** for every person to see on game day, yet it's a big deal that they get asked to dress sleazy to entertain some rich guy..If they don't want to do it than don't..whats the worst thing that is gonna happen to them? Get fired? OMG what would they do then?GTFO out with your sensitive ass..

Did you read the article? Taking their passports is normal? Having spectators at a topless photoshoot is normal? Having them work 14 hour days with no pay and then be forced to escort a rich man to a club is normal? Ok they quit...but now how do they get home? They don't have their passport. Its intimidation tactics to force them into situations they otherwise might not be a part of and it is despicable.

 

Newsflash guy....it isnt normal and if you can rationalize this just to root for a football team, then i don't really know what else to tell you besides you are just flat out wrong.

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Some harsh stuff below.  Obviously I have no clue what happened but if women were coerced to take their cloths off to entertain potential clients -- then yeah I don't think its out of the possibility Dan could be pushed to sell or at least be suspended.   Steinbrenner was suspended for years for paying someone to dig up dirt on one of his players.  This has to be as egregious if not more.  Question is did it go on purely from people overseeing this with no involvement from higher ups?

 

 

https://fansided.com/2018/05/02/cheerleaders-report-toxic-washington-redskins-culture-snyder/

 

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    We need to take a step back for a moment and really digest the accusations against Washington. If they are true, an NFL team was engaged in a form of human trafficking. We all just need to really take that in.

     
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    Washington dedicated its week 1 game last September to "ending human trafficking." I'm completely serious.

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Just now, PortisBetts said:

Did you read the article? Taking their passports is normal? Having spectators at a topless photoshoot is normal? Having them work 14 hour days with no pay and then be forced to escort a rich man to a club is normal?

 

Newsflash guy....it isnt normal and if you can rationalize this just to root for a football team, then i don't really know what else to tell you besides you are just flat out wrong.

Like i said they weren't made to do ****..Quit if you don't want to do something..lol

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9 minutes ago, bh32 said:

You live a very sheltered life if you think this some big ass deal..these girls flaunt there **** for every person to see on game day, yet it's a big deal that they get asked to dress sleazy to entertain some rich guy..If they don't want to do it than don't..whats the worst thing that is gonna happen to them? Get fired? OMG what would they do then?GTFO out with your sensitive ass..

As I said before, yeah - we get it, Cheerleaders are there for eye candy.

 

This is about more than that.  If you can’t see the slimy part of it, I don’t know what to tell you.

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1 minute ago, bh32 said:

Like i said they weren't made to do ****..Quit if you don't want to do something..lol

Yeah so easy. Just quit....in costa rica with no passport and no place to stay or flight back? 

 

Seriously, just stop it. Nothing about this is funny.

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Disgusting. A lame few sentences as a response shows how poorly run the front office and organization can sometimes be. 

 

Nothing short of Snyder having a presser, taking questions (not from Doc Walker or Larry), and likely the removal of a number of people is going to even start to address this. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

As I said before, yeah - we get it, Cheerleaders are there for eye candy.

 

This is about more than that.  If you can’t see the slimy part of it, I don’t know what to tell you.

Yeah it is creepy,but it still dosen't change the fact they were forced to do anything..

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3 minutes ago, bh32 said:

Like i said they weren't made to do ****..Quit if you don't want to do something..lol

 

This is so ridiculously ignorant it’s hard to comprehend. You clearly do not have an understanding of this situation and should probably see yourself out of this thread before you continue to make an ass out of yourself 

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4 minutes ago, bh32 said:

You live a very sheltered life if you think this some big ass deal..these girls flaunt there **** for every person to see on game day, yet it's a big deal that they get asked to dress sleazy to entertain some rich guy..If they don't want to do it than don't..whats the worst thing that is gonna happen to them? Get fired? OMG what would they do then?GTFO out with your sensitive ass..

The option of quitting does not make it OK for an employer to harass employees.  Likewise cheerleader uniforms being somewhat revealing does not remove an employers responsibility to not harass employees.  This has nothing to do with being sensitive, this is beginner level decency and professionalism.   

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, PortisBetts said:

Yeah so easy. Just quit....in costa rica with no passport and no place to stay or flight back? 

 

Seriously, just stop it. Nothing about this is funny.

Whatever..i just don't see it as some big ass deal..Is it unethical? yeah,but alot worse happens to people all the time.

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1 minute ago, bh32 said:

Yeah it is creepy,but it still dosen't change the fact they were forced to do anything..

You arent even worth arguing with. I hope you dont have a daughter and if you do, i hope she never finds herself in this situation. 

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Just now, bh32 said:

Whatever..i just don't see it as some big ass deal..Is it unethical? yeah,but alot worse happens to people all the time.

 

Dont complain or be upset that you got mugged on the way home one day. A lot worse happens to people all the time. 

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Just now, bh32 said:

Whatever..i just don't see it as some big ass deal..Is it unethical? yeah,but alot worse happens to people all the time.

People steal all the time, bit murder is worse, so just let the thieves go.

 

If this story makes no difference to you, please just leave or shut up. Your arguments are shallow and ignorant.

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1 minute ago, bh32 said:

Like i said they weren't made to do ****..Quit if you don't want to do something..lol

 

Let me spell this out ofr you since you choose to take the neanderthal approach.

 

They are cheerleaders and do a photo shoot for the team together every year. This year they say we are going to Costa Rico! Just the team to a secluded resort! Are you in? 

 

Once they get there, their passports are taken from them. If you do not see how that in imprisonment then you do not get out much. Once you get out of the US, without your passport there is nothing that can be done for you if the local police want to harrass you. Even if you have it, things can get dicey. 

 

This is the key part since you don't seem to understand - They can't leave without their passports and if they do not have enough money they could be stranded in Costa Rico! With no way back they can be arrested by local police for being a vagrant!!  Most of these girls do not make hardly any money for the team or otherwise. Many are in college! So they are in fact imprisoned! 

 

From thier it's easy to intimidate them into doing everything that is "suggested" for fear of not getting home. 

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12 minutes ago, bh32 said:

You live a very sheltered life if you think this some big ass deal..these girls flaunt there **** for every person to see on game day, yet it's a big deal that they get asked to dress sleazy to entertain some rich guy..If they don't want to do it than don't..whats the worst thing that is gonna happen to them? Get fired? OMG what would they do then?GTFO out with your sensitive ass..

Just so we're 100% clear, when I don't respond to you again, it's because I have no use for misogynistic clods who respond to sexual harassment with thoughts like "if you don't like it, quit". 

 

I sincerely hope your cavemen brain is able to grasp that.

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1 minute ago, PortisBetts said:

You arent even worth arguing with. I hope you dont have a daughter and if you do, i hope she never finds herself in this situation. 

 

Unless Luca Brasi has a gun to her head and literally forces her to do it, dear old dad here is just gonna blame her for not quitting. Because that’s how power dynamics of wealthy people within multi billion dollar companies and low paid employees work. Yep. 

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1 minute ago, PortisBetts said:

You arent even worth arguing with. I hope you dont have a daughter and if you do, i hope she never finds herself in this situation. 

I do,but she has enough  sense to tell someone to **** off if they want her to do something that she dosen't want to do..

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But I thought it was GUICE with the  embarrassing story about to come out??? 

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2 minutes ago, bh32 said:

Whatever..i just don't see it as some big ass deal..Is it unethical? yeah,but alot worse happens to people all the time.

 

 

You just keep digging this thing deeper. So if other people get their heads chopped off then I guess I should not complain if I "only" get my hands chopped off!! Seriously lame!!!  

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Did I read it right; this happened 5 years ago?

Now, before everyone sharpens their pitchforks, try to emotionally dis-connect yourself from the team and from the NFL for a moment, and do some rational thinking.

 

If this did in fact happen, and if it did in fact humiliate any cheerleaders, I feel for them; I cannot begin to put myself in their shoes to measure the type and magnitude of the raw emotion and feelings they have, I can only stand as a man who believes in treating everyone with dignity and respect and say any form of act like that is appalling and disgraceful, and any of the people involved with manipulating these women should come out and publicly apologize and face the punishment.

 

But let's not get ahead of ourselves before ALL of the facts come out. Today's social media is vindictive and sinister, where ANY accused person is automatically met with guilty verdicts and death threats. Sorry, this is my personal feeling towards this 'accusation', and for some reason it just doesn't pass the smell test.

 

Why?

Because until absolute proof comes out, myself, nor anyone else, can judge a person. I'm not saying there isn't proof, but today's society is burn the accused first then ask questions. 5 years is a long time, and if this is true, and these women who are making the accusations were truly violated in any way, common sense would tell me something should have been said back then, not 5 years down the road.

 

So, please, before throwing your daggers in my direction, I am only laying out some form of line of framework to ponder, and I'm saying this because I personally know of 2 people [ friends ] who were falsely accused of an act and it completely destroyed 2 marriages, and later turned out to be extreme exaggerations and fabrications, which turned out to be money-related.

 

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Just now, bh32 said:

I do,but she has enough  sense to tell someone to **** off if they want her to do something that she dosen't want to do..

You are unbelievably ignorant if you think thats how the world works. I hope your daughter has more sense. 

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1 minute ago, skins island connection said:

5 years is a long time, and if this is true, and these women who are making the accusations were truly violated in any way, common sense would tell me something should have been said back then, not 5 years down the road.

 

That’s just not how harassment, rape or anything similar works in reality for about a hundred different reasons 

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