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      Good afternoon Redskins nation!  I’m in beautiful Landover, MD with Spaceman Spiff who has been pulled away from Instagram models and tailgating and sent down to the field to do what he does best (roll around in the mud).
       
      Let’s get down to business...  Can we block them?  There are other story lines entering into this game but worrying about them feels largely academic.  The Texans have two terrifying pass rushers and the Redskins intend to block them with optimism and underdog stories.  Alex Smith isn’t a statue but he does take time in making decisions and getting the ball out.  This combination looks disastrous.  The sort of thing that has us all after the game consoling each other with things like “well, it was just a bad matchup" and “we caught them at the worst possible time.” 
       
      Or... we could walk away wondering just how the heck this team managed to pull off another improbable win.  Last week the gave up something like twelve thousand yards of offense to the Bucs, I’ll have to check those numbers to be sure, but only three points.  That’s not supposed to happen.  Maybe we can enjoy an outrageously unlikely result again.  Not probably, not likely, but you know... maybe.  I’m saying there’s a chance.   
       
      I’m here for that chance.  (and you know... the free food and climate controlled free seats) 

      1st Quarter Update
      Redskins are running their bend and break defense, and I’m not sure a little over three quarters is enough time for the Redskins offense to close a 10-point gap.  I’m having flash backs of week nine, but having human emotions is considered “disruptive behavior.”  I'm fine.  Everything is fine. 
       
      That Quinn celebration, whatever that was, was the highlight of the 1st quarter. 
       
      2nd Quarter Update
      Is there a better way to start a quarter than by scoring a touchdown?  There is, if you follow that TD drive with a forced turnover on defense.  Things are looking good! 

      So much for that.  A great start was quickly ended up canceled out by the Redskins offense.  With a chance to take a lead Alex Smith throws a pick six in the red zone and takes the air out of the stadium.  He followed that up by throwing another interception on the very next drive.  Alex Smith almost made me forget about Vernon Davis dropping that pass.  Almost. 
       
      Texans missed a field goal attempt and the lead remains frozen at 10. 
       
      This quarter feels like a giant blown opportunity.  
       
      Halftime Update. 
      I should have stopped at one hotdog.  I deserve this.
       
      3rd Quarter Update
      You know the feeling where you say and think all these bad things about a player and then he breaks his leg and you immediately feel bad about it?  I live there now.
       
      Colt McCoy has freed me from that place of sadness! 
       
      As much as I love this defense, they have to start forcing teams to punt at some point.  Is there a stat for defense tha thas forced the fewest punts?  We have to be near the top of that list.  Texans have punted just once today.  Holding them to three was good, though.   
       
      The lead is down to six and Colt McCoy has arrived to save us.  (Please let that be true.) 
       
      Personal Note:  Someone just stomped, loudly, out of the press area like a while muttering at his phone.  Laughter and comparisons to toddlers followed him.  The media's laugh is an evil laugh!  Good times. 
       
      4th Quarter Update
      Colt has brought us back.  Welcome to the first lead change of the season, Redskins fans.  You like that?!  (Yeesh, was that always so lame?)  I guess you could say Adrian Peterson contributed by actually scoring the touchdown.  I bet Colt told him to score though, so you have to factor leadership into things.
       
      Once again, the defense cannot force a punt, hard to feel great about holding a team to a field goal when that field goal gives them the lead in the 4th quarter 
       
      Remember that whole "can we block them" thing?  The answer was absolutely not on the Redskins 2nd drive of the 4th quarter.  Watt and Clowney each sacked our man Colt, and ended that drive before it really had a chance to begin. 
       
      Horrible, no good, very bad holding called on Norman gifting Houston a first down at the worst possible time for it.
       
      Colt chooses to throw deep at an inopportune moment resulting in a 60+ yard attempt for an injured kicker.  Heartbreaking end to a game that cost this team entirely too much (via injury) yet still seemed to be within reach several times. 
       
      I'm off to the post game press conference and locker room, check back later for updates.
       
      Final Thoughts
      I’ve always found it preferable to watch my favorite team simply get destroyed, than to feel that they were the better team and still managed to lose.  The Redskins gave this game away with mistakes in the 2nd quarter.  Fred Davis makes a routine catch and Alex Smith doesn’t throw a pick six, and the scoreboard shows at least 7 fewer points for the Texans.  Even if the Redskins had settled for field goals, that’s a 13 point swing in 2 point game.   
       
      Losing the game wasn’t even the worst part.  Losing Alex Smith, for at least the remainder of the season, is likely enough to push the Redskins past the point where they can continue toughing their way through key injuries. 
       
      We'll all feel better after a win against the Cowboys next week. 
       
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2018 Free Agency Database - (Signed: WILLIAMS - McPhee - Scandrick - P-Rich) - (Lauvao, Bergstrom, Nsehke, Taylor, Z. Brown and Quick re-signed)

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Ndamukong  Suh/ Sheldon Richardson

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Zach Brown

 

trade back in first round for Taven Bryan

Derius Guice in the 2nd

 

 

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If Arizona is releasing him, does that mean he is free to sign a new (maybe cheaper) deal? If he is healthy is good, I'd bring him in.

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7 minutes ago, hatchetwound said:

You do realize Washington got something for a player they were going to cut anyway right?

 

oh wait, its only genius when the Eagles do it :rolleyes: 

 

Lol you're very knowledgeable 

 

Let me explain something to you. When you're as good as the Pats have been the last 12 years. You get a pass on a player or two that didn't pan out. 

 

When you suck for 30 years you dont.

 

So stop comparing the Skins to a elite organization. I'm sure that 5th rd pick the Skins got really worked out. I'm also sure the Pats could give 2 ****s about a 5th rd pick. When the probably had 10 picks in the draft.

 

So in other words I'll back the team looking to sign Murphy  ,because there organization at least gets it right 75%or the time compared to 5%.

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11 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

Jonathan Allen is why our role players looked good for the first month or so of 2017.  Allen was getting double-teamed almost from the very first snap he took as an NFL player and it made life easier for guys like Trent Murphy.  You can find 50 Trent Murphys for every 1 Jonathan Allen.  Jonathan Allen is the guy you need on the field so that the more modestly talented/paid guys such as Trent Murphy are able to get the pretty looking stats.

 

Trent didn't play a down for us last year.  In fact, except for Matt Ionaddis, I would say every redskin rusher who had a good season actually had good years pre-dating Allen

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1 minute ago, SemperFi Skins said:

Ndamukong  Suh/ Sheldon Richardson

Honey Badger

Zach Brown

 

trade back in first round for Taven Bryan

Derius Guice in the 2nd

 

 

 

The cap number on Alex Smith will determine what exactly is doable. 

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Just now, desertbeagle85 said:

 

Lol you're very knowledgeable 

 

Let me explain something to you. When you're as good as the Pats have been the last 12 years. You get a pass on a player or erected that didn't pan out. 

 

When you suck for 30 years you dont.

 

So stop comparing the Skins to a elite organization. I'm sure that 5th rd pick the Skins got really worked out. I'm also sure the Pats could give 2 ****s about a 5th rd pick. When the probably had 10 picks in the draft.

 

So in other words I'll back the team looking to sign Murphy  ,because there organization at least gets it right 75%or the time compared to 5%.

You don't need to mansplain anything to me.  Getting something for a player you are going to cut anyway is a GOOD thing.  I don't know how anyone can possibly spin that fact any other way.

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2 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

Those of you freaking out, this is a valid point

THis was my biggest point in the Bruce Allen thread - love him or hate him or call him the devil, the dude has turned this franchise from a FA focused one to a draft focused one and one that's drafting at least OK. 2014 was the one where Scot was a consultant and its probably his best draft. We'll see how 2017 turns out, but I'm much more in favor of using the draft over free agency particularly because of what we've seen the last two days - mediocre players getting massive deals. BA likes to underspend and get value picks and depend on the draft picks to build the team. I like that way as a major philosophy.

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1 minute ago, Thinking Skins said:

THis was my biggest point in the Bruce Allen thread - love him or hate him or call him the devil, the dude has turned this franchise from a FA focused one to a draft focused one and one that's drafting at least OK. 2014 was the one where Scot was a consultant and its probably his best draft. We'll see how 2017 turns out, but I'm much more in favor of using the draft over free agency particularly because of what we've seen the last two days - mediocre players getting massive deals. BA likes to underspend and get value picks and depend on the draft picks to build the team. I like that way as a major philosophy.

 

This is a better path for sustainable success than making Nate Solder the highest paid OL ever.

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With our remaining cap space, I think we may be able to get both Mathieu and a Sheldon Richardson under contract, but that would be the end of FA IMO. That would leave RB, LG, ILB as big holes heading into the draft. Navarro Bowman on a cheap prove-it deal would be a nice sugar-coating as well. But hard to see.

 

Could you imagine our defense with Sheldon Richardson, Tyrann Mathieu and Navarro Bowman added for 2018? Also, with Richardson and Matheiu, you might be able to put their biggest years into 2020 when we have very few big contracts on the books (and when Norman and Kerrigan come off) ... and you could presumably absorb those in 2020 fairly easily.

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20 minutes ago, steve09ru said:

Agreed but were you sold on Breeland after year 3 (he was atrocious)?  Or after his great year 2 (would have overpayed).  Or Long who struggled at LG his second year and his 3rd year was his first at center.  We don't ever have that consistency year to year with an individual player and something always seems to pop-up so your either going to overpay after a good year or roll the dice with extending someone who still hasn't shown the ability to be that C+/B- player (examples above).

 

Was I? No. But I watch 16 games per season and honestly don't really know what to look for. If we don't have talent evaluators who don't have a better sense for what we have in a player who's been in the building, practiced, and played here for 4 years, then we need new talent evaluators. 

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14 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said:

Ndamukong  Suh/ Sheldon Richardson

Honey Badger

Zach Brown

 

trade back in first round for Taven Bryan

Derius Guice in the 2nd

 

 

 

I would love that, but honestly I don't see how we would have the money for that. 

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Monster contract for HB coming....

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000920332/article/tyrann-mathieu-asked-by-cardinals-to-take-pay-cut

 

    1. Previous contract was 5yr $62m: "I suggested that he might wind up making more money on the open market if released than he would have with the Cardinals on his current contract. "My agent thinks so too," Mathieu said with a smile."

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12 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said:

Maclin also released. Got yards with Smith in KC. 

 

He still made the most incredible catch I've seen live.  And for a TD.  Vick threw a bomb during the Monday Night Massacre and it was clearly going to land 3 or 4 yards out of bounds.  Maclin snatched in and stayed in bounds.  It was incredible.  I know it was 8 years ago now but we could do worse.

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Next year doesn't look great for Cap Space. WIth Spotrac I cut Vernon Davis, Terrell McClain and Stacy McGee in 2019 and it got us to $54 million, before Alex Smith's presumed $23m hit ... which would put us to $31m of space before we sign anyone from this year. Or our rookie deals hit the 2019 books.

 

2020 is a bit better. 2021 has almost all of our big deals expiring.


Josh Norman is likely the one that will bring relief, as would Jordan Reed. But it's still a blreak picture. But if you did bring in Tyrann and backloaded it for 2020 and 2021, having him Moreau, Dunbar, the 2 Josh's from last year ... could make moving on from Norman palatable. But would likely require some draft stock committed this and/or next year to prepare.

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Just now, DC9 said:

 

He still made the most incredible catch I've seen live.  And for a TD.  Vick threw a bomb during the Monday Night Massacre and it was clearly going to land 3 or 4 yards out of bounds.  Maclin snatched in and stayed in bounds.  It was incredible.  I know it was 8 years ago now but we could do worse.

I don't know how much money he would command, but I would be totally find with him as a depth signing.  He probably doesn't have the top-end speed he use to, but as a veteran guy who knows the QB, played in a similar offense (Reid -> Jon Gruden -> Jay Gruden), wouldn't be the worst thing in the world...

 

If the money was right

 

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15 minutes ago, Panninho said:

 

Soooo good news? or....my initial feeling is that if he wasn't going to sign with us or wanted to see what else was out there, he'd definitely have other visits lined up? idk

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"Paging Eric Schaffer, if you're in the building please report to the board room" :rofl89:

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2 minutes ago, PerryMason said:

Soooo good news? or....my initial feeling is that if he wasn't going to sign with us or wanted to see what else was out there, he'd definitely have other visits lined up? idk

 

JP said money was the hold-up.

 

He might be thinking if the juice is worth the squeeze.  Just my guess, anyway. 

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1 hour ago, steve09ru said:

My guess would be that we'd rather not overpay average players when they can be replaced with younger talent already on the team or cheaper FAs that are similar.  You resign the core pieces (Kerrigan, Trent, Moses, Reed, etc.) and draft to replace the replaceable ones (Breeland, Murphy, etc.)

 

I guess you have a point. Cant keep everyone. 

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