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General Mass Shooting Thread (originally Las Vegas Strip)

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

Think you and I, or maybe it was Benning, talked about this and I said video documentation of slaughtered little children. Likely a birthday party or soccer game. A place where a lot of people have cameras.

 

It's real easy nowadays to compartmentalize and move on. Hard to move on from looking at children getting massacred in front of you. The emotional backlash from that would be tough to overcome. That would likely be the last atage of evolution.

 

That, or an entire group of Suicide cultists in one town targeting different areas at once.

 

Ya, I've definitely commented on how my feelings of women being mass shooters is much different than men and for several reasons, including ones you stated.

 

This is where I was going in that specific thread:

 

 

I'm trying to wrap my head around what a worst case scenario would be, but I do believe there will be a final straw someday and it will become apparent that we already crossed the threshold and making it so this never happens never happens, just more rare like it used to be.  Stopping the selling of guns won't matter, making something illegal in this country just creates a secondary market for it.

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True. Prohibition was one of the biggest mistakes of the 20th Century (one we're literally and figuratively paying for). Empowering gun runners would be another one. In terms of mass shooters though, I don't think it applies as readily  (though I still wouldn't do it) when you have unstable people + absurd availability, whereas stronger background/mental fitness  evaluations and bans on certain weapons would likely put a dent on a lot of the higher casualty mass shootings involving automatic weapons. I think the only right to stop it is through effective gun legislation and mental health reform. Not too heavy handed on either.

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17 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 I think the only right to stop it is through effective gun legislation and mental health reform. Not too heavy handed on either.

 

 

I agree this is one of those topics where we need to at least start with what we agree on and see where it goes. 

 

Right now I believe we all agree its just too damn easy.  I've said in other threads my feelings on putting mental health out in front of this as a primary cause versus a commonality among the shooters.  I don't believe enough people understand mental health to be making those claims.  You should get a doctors note to get a gun, at a minimum.  There are significantly more people with mental illness then there are mass shooters, the true commonality I've noticed is an obsession with violence and no one saying anything about it (or at least that information not gettin got the right people). 

 

Security is a layered approach, checking a single box won't protect you from much of anything.  And I don't think that will ever account for the "we don't know why they did it and had no record to stop them from purchasing firearms".  Why I think we could get this to slow down, maybe happen less, but genie is out the bottle now.

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14 hours ago, visionary said:

 


As numb as I've become to these mass shootings, reading those texts hit me in the feels pretty hard. 

I realize how complicated the gun issue is, and I am a gun enthusiast myself.  But what the ****, man.  Something has to happen.  . 

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