Dr. Do Itch Big Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Bacon said: Drogas Light was worse than any Kendrick project since the KDot days. Pretty wack stuff, especially Pick Up the Phone. T&Y, Food & Liquor and especially The Cool are my ****, but his discography is so much weaker than Kendrick's overall largely because his ear for beats and hooks is so much worse. Lyrically, they're very close. I agree on the beats and hooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: Drogas Light was worse than any Kendrick project since the KDot days. Pretty wack stuff, especially Pick Up the Phone. T&Y, Food & Liquor and especially The Cool are my ****, but his discography is so much weaker than Kendrick's overall largely because his ear for beats and hooks is so much worse. Lyrically, they're very close. Light was just a compilation of throwaways. More of a mixtape so not really fair to compare that to a full kendrick studio album. And i think Lupe has better beats than kendrick (especially on the cool & TY), but thats just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 One of my favorite Lupe verse is off Poor Decisions by Wale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, Dr. Do Itch Big said: One of my favorite Lupe verse is off Poor Decisions by Wale. what do u think about his newest "unreleased" song about kaepernick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 PM a link? Haven't heard it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: PM a link? Haven't heard it sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Question - should we just change this to the ES Hip-Hop thread? Get some good discussion going? *edit* As far as Lupe, I was convinced he had "next" after F&L & The Cool...but like it was said, his overall discography is nowhere near as strong as Kendrick's. Edited April 21, 2017 by RonArtest15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 You guys know about the Krayzie Bone/Bizzy Bone joint coming out in June ? Might not be safe for work - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Bone was one of the first acts that really pulled me into rap spent a lot of time with my ear next to a boombox rewinding a tape trying to catch what they were saying lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Lupe's best was the cool, for me. How come Eminem hasn't been brought up in this discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, Springfield said: Lupe's best was the cool, for me. How come Eminem hasn't been brought up in this discussion? too inconsistent to crack my list. at his best, he can stand next to anybody who's ever done it. i base my list more on a rapper's discography, not where they are at there peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Springfield said: Lupe's best was the cool, for me. How come Eminem hasn't been brought up in this discussion? He was discussed on page 1 and 2. It was agreed he was unequivocally #1. Anyone going against that obviously has a racial bias. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 I think Eminem is in that cluster for #5 with Kendrick and Jay-Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 5 hours ago, RonArtest15 said: I think Eminem is in that cluster for #5 with Kendrick and Jay-Z. No way Jay-Z is above Eminem. If it wasn't being married to Beyonce and partnering with Rhianna on some stuff he would be 5-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, daveakl said: No way Jay-Z is above Eminem. If it wasn't being married to Beyonce and partnering with Rhianna on some stuff he would be 5-10. U crazy, bro... Reasonable Doubt through American Gangster are all top-quality. You wanna argue about how he fell off since AG, fine...no debate from me. His discography > Em's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 R-Kelly, BIG, Rhianna, Beyonce basically made him. It's like saying Jordan is the greatest without putting into context he had Pippen, Grant, Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr, etc. Without that supporting cast Jordan is Dr. J Without that supporting cast Jay-Z is Lupe Fiasco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 First Macklemore in the top-10 discussion...now saying R.Kelly, BIG, Rihanna, and Beyonce made Jay-Z. Takes be hot in here today, bruh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Lupe is a better lyricist than Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, RonArtest15 said: First Macklemore in the top-10 discussion...now saying R.Kelly, BIG, Rihanna, and Beyonce made Jay-Z. Takes be hot in here today, bruh. Saying he is "in the discussion" is a disservice to. 8 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: Lupe is a better lyricist than Jay This guy gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Go to Harvard to be a lupe Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Jay is more of a biter than a writer. I like his work...but most of it is production. Oh, and Jay is certainly not better than Em. No way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 28 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: Lupe is a better lyricist than Jay No argument from me, but Jay-Z has a MUCH stronger catalogue. I'm not even talking about the quantity...bu the quality. He's got about 4-5 albums that you can say are in the top 100 all-time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 And half of them are rip offs from OG's. Jay is among the top ten...not the top 5. Feels like Deja Vu to me. I know I said this before. Jay admits it in one of his songs. I'll need to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Damn I was going to make the Macklemore joke but somebody already beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: And half of them are rip offs from OG's. Jay is among the top ten...not the top 5. Feels like Deja Vu to me. I know I said this before. Jay admits it in one of his songs. I'll need to look it up. Please give me your top-10 list...Would love to see who you have on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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