sacase Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/532147/Munich-shooting-Deutschland-Metro-Station This has become a weekly occurrence. BREAKING: SECOND shooting in Munich as gunman opens fire at Metro stationA SECOND shooting has unfolded in a U-Bahn/Metro station in Munich, Germany just minutes after a gunman opened fire at a shopping centre in the Bavarian city. Originally attack. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_GERMANY_MUNICH_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-07-22-13-37-20 BERLIN (AP) -- A manhunt was underway Friday for a shooter or shooters who opened fire at a shopping mall in Munich, killing and wounding several people, a Munich police spokeswoman said. The city transit system shut down and police asked people to avoid public places. "At the moment no culprit has been arrested," Munich police said on social media. "The search is taking place at high speed." Police said witnesses reported seeing three different people with guns near the Olympia Einkaufszentrum mall. Munich police spokeswoman Claudia Kuenzel told The Associated Press there were "several dead and wounded" in the shooting. She could not provide exact numbers. The Bavarian Interior Ministry confirmed at least one dead and multiple people hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 yeah....well planned, they're saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 apparently all the hashtags, FB icon changes, and thoughts and prayers for Nice, Belgium, Dallas, Turkey, Paris, Boston, Orlando, San Bernandino, did not work. RIP to the victims, i hate this ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 munich's a cool city it's a little ridiculous during oktoberfest, but at least the police were super cool/lenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 apparently all the hashtags, FB icon changes, and thoughts and prayers for Nice, Belgium, Dallas, Turkey, Paris, Boston, Orlando, San Bernandino, did not work. #radicalIslam is the only way to make it stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Welp... Good luck, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Can't be true. They have strict gun laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Some sources reporting NOT a brown shooter—German right wing nationalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Can't be true. They have strict gun laws. too soon or is it i don't even know anymore. someone said something in the office about it. i'd say, based on the reaction it received, terrorist/shooting attack now ranks below "severe weather alert" on the scale of office reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 too soon or is it i don't even know anymore. someone said something in the office about it. i'd say, based on the reaction it received, terrorist/shooting attack now ranks below "severe weather alert" on the scale of office reactions. It's not too soon, it's just an asinine thing to say. One mass shooting and it's open season on their anti-gun culture. How many shootings have WE had in the past two weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It's not too soon, it's just an asinine thing to say. One mass shooting and it's open season on their anti-gun culture. How many shootings have WE had in the past two weeks? By cops or civilians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Some sources reporting NOT a brown shooter—German right wing nationalist?Not possible, Twitter has already been inundated with anti Islamic tweets. The people have spoken. Case closed.Notable re the right wing shooting angle... Today is the 5 year anniversary of the attack in Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 too soon or is it i don't even know anymore. someone said something in the office about it. i'd say, based on the reaction it received, terrorist/shooting attack now ranks below "severe weather alert" on the scale of office reactions. I think it's too soon. But since that is the way pretty much every thread goes, I figured I'd lead the way for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Odds it's a female? Or group of females? Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdrums Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 apparently all the hashtags, FB icon changes, and thoughts and prayers for Nice, Belgium, Dallas, Turkey, Paris, Boston, Orlando, San Bernandino, did not work. RIP to the victims, i hate this ****. Yes, by all means, antagonize as useless every group of people who actually have a chance to impact actions like these long-term. Laws will not fix this. More law enforcement will not fix this. The ONLY thing that has a shot at fixing it are the people with enough humanity left to feel empathy and express it, whether it's by hashtag, avatar, or your italicized snark. Those same people ARE the ones who act. We. Care. Our skin and blood is in the game. And, worthless as you may consider them, the parts of us we hold most precious - our spiritual beliefs - are in the game, too. You don't have to understand it. Point your rhetorical Roman candle elsewhere. To end this, the thoughts and prayers of our enemies must become like the thoughts and prayers of our brothers and sisters. There is no other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Scientists recently published a study that sadness/depression was the brain's signal that it needs socialization and human contact, since humans evolved as social animals. Much in the same way that hunger is a brain signal that the body needs food. In some metaphyical way, what if all this rage (symptoms of nationalism and extremism) is a (collective) brain signal in response to injustice. People are lashing out at injustice. Whether it's an underemployed brit or a marginalized muslim refugee or closeted homosexual—seeking something. As Pope Paul VI said, If you want peace, work for justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 The ONLY thing that has a shot at fixing it are the people with enough humanity left to feel empathy and express it, whether it's by hashtag, avatar, or your italicized snark. Wow. So you guys actually think changing your avatars and hashtagging around has an impact? Maybe you're right. I don't think they do, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdrums Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Wow. So you guys actually think changing your avatars and hashtagging around has an impact? Maybe you're right. I don't think they do, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. I don't use hashtags or avatars, but trace the impulse to do so back about 2 inches and you'll find empathy. And yes, I do think that empathy has an impact. I think it's the only impact worth measuring. Does the avatar or hashtag help? No. But empathy does. I guarantee the subset of people who "actually help" is higher among hashtaggers than people who remain silent and disengaged.These attacks will continue to increase, not decrease. But the only hope, both for victims and for maybe someday destroying the ideology that spawns extremism, is empathy. Ranking of decentness in tragedy: 1: People who express empathy in some way and act to help others. 2: People who remain silent but act. 3: People who sneer at #1 but act. 200: People who sneer at #1 and do nothing (which, in my experience, is most people who sneer at #1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I don't use hashtags or avatars, but trace the impulse to do so back about 2 inches and you'll find empathy. And yes, I do think that empathy has an impact. I think it's the only impact worth measuring. Does the avatar or hashtag help? No. But empathy does. I guarantee the subset of people who "actually help" is higher among hashtaggers than people who remain silent and disengaged. These attacks will continue to increase, not decrease. But the only hope, both for victims and for maybe someday destroying the ideology that spawns extremism, is empathy. Ranking of decentness in tragedy: 1: People who express empathy in some way and act to help others. 2: People who remain silent but act. 3: People who sneer at #1 but act. 200: People who sneer at #1 and do nothing (which, in my experience, is most people who sneer at #1). I guess we just disagree on what is fundamentally going on here. I don't think empathy is going to do jack **** about crazy people who think the best way to further their political (sometimes mistaken as religious) cause is to kill other people. I find it humorous you put people showing empathy above two groups of people that actually act (whatever that actually means) but hey, empathize away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdrums Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I guess we just disagree on what is fundamentally going on here. I don't think empathy is going to do jack **** about crazy people who think the best way to further their political (sometimes mistaken as religious) cause is to kill other people. I find it humorous you put people showing empathy above two groups of people that actually act (whatever that actually means) but hey, empathize away. You should read the entirety of #1.After a tragedy, there are two phases. 1) Help victims. 2) Try to prevent further attacks. Prevention includes 1) shuffling the assholes free of the mortal coil (if we can find them). 2) Finding them if we haven't and executing (1). 3) Preventing further propagation of assholes. Humanity, love, decentness, empathy...whatever you call it...is the only tool for 3. Weapons address 1, intelligence 2. But if we aren't changing minds, this battle will continue for centuries. There is no entity to destroy, merely a collection of ideas. Those ideas are often coming from very different cultures, but if we don't target those cultures and those ideas, this will never end. (I'm not terribly optimistic, as the necessary execution of terrorists also creates a negative feedback loop. My point is that WE aren't the assholes here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Yes, by all means, antagonize as useless every group of people who actually have a chance to impact actions like these long-term. Laws will not fix this. More law enforcement will not fix this. The ONLY thing that has a shot at fixing it are the people with enough humanity left to feel empathy and express it, whether it's by hashtag, avatar, or your italicized snark. Those same people ARE the ones who act. We. Care. Our skin and blood is in the game. And, worthless as you may consider them, the parts of us we hold most precious - our spiritual beliefs - are in the game, too. You don't have to understand it. Point your rhetorical Roman candle elsewhere. To end this, the thoughts and prayers of our enemies must become like the thoughts and prayers of our brothers and sisters. There is no other way. I believe you and I believe you care. I'm just really heated about all this going on, I need to take a break from the internets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 GF was just talking to her sister who lives in Germany. Frankfurt. They're Habesha (Ethiopian) and Christian (Ethiopia is a vastly Christian majority country. Also one of two countries in Africa to never be colonized--Liberia being the other). From an upper class family (by Ethiopian standards) and educated. Interesting experiences they're having there. At the risk of sounding like a dumb, dirty hippie--i fully believe the entire West really needs to step up in the love department if we're going to successfully counter the current forces pitted against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Heard on the radio that the gunman in Munich was yelling "I am German!" as well as anti-immigrant talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Heard on the radio that the gunman in Munich was yelling "I am German!" as well as anti-immigrant talk. Gf sister said the same thing. That reports there from eye witnesses are that he was screaming about foreigners before opening fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I can sense the way we do security changing soon, especially in other Western Countries that feel they may be behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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