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Projection of Opening 2016 53 Player Roster (three open slots)


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Barring changes to health status / injuries and exceptional special teams' performances, here is my projection of ~50 of the 53 slots for the opening day roster.

 

Please let me know where you think i am off.

 

I think D-line, safety and center spots are the key competition areas -- might be filled by UDFA; also, as noted, exceptional special teams' performances will probably be a key factor in determing who fills last roster spots.

 

Offense (23/24)

QBs (3/3) - Cousins, McCoy, Sudfeld

RBs (3/3) - Jones, Thompson, Marshall (only opens up for any health concerns or if Jones can't hold onto football)

WRs (6/6) - Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, Doctson, Grant, Ross

OL (8/9 as long as Lauvao recovers if not then 7/9 filled) - Williams, Scherff, Lauvao, Lichtensteiger, Moses, Long, Kouandjio, Nsekhe; contested position - who will be the back-up center or extra OL (if Long wins back-up center spot)?

TEs (3/3) - Reed, Davis, and either Paulsen or Paul, depends on who is performing better and needs of team

 

Defense (24/26)

DL (7/7) - Baker, Golston, Reyes, Paea, Ioannidis, Jean-Francois, Hood (DL / Safety / C are weakest starters; Murphy / UFDA may play here if play is sub-par by others)

OLB (4/4) - Kerrigan, Galette, Smith, Murphy

ILB (5/5) - Compton, Foster, Riley, Daniels, Garvin

CB (4/4) - Norman, Breeland, Fuller, Toler -- some CBs being converted to Safety

Safety (5/6 as long as Ihenacho recovers if not then 4/6 filled) - Ihenacho, Hall, Blackmon, Bruton, Cravens, one TBD - who will be additional safety / special teams specialist; DL / Safety / C are weakest areas; my guess is that Kyshoen Jarrett gets placed on Reserve / PUP list; and this last spot goes to converted CB --  Deshazor Everett, Quinton Dunbar -- or UFDA safety; Blackmon, Everett, Dunbar can play Nickel if Fuller / Toler can't go; Cravens will play the Dime

 

Special Teams Specialists (3/3)

K (1/1) - Hopkins

P (1/1) - Way

LS (1/1) - Sundberg

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RB- think that 3rd spot is completely up for grabs, but yeah, it's possible Marshall takes it. I'll be curious to see if they go back with 4 running backs again, carry a 4th TE, or what have you.

TE - After Reed, I think Davis and Paul are almost assured of winning spots (but do they carry 4?).

Wr - I could see someone knocking Ross out, but I think your guess is the safest bet.

OL - I think LeRibeus earns a spot, and Lauvao either starts or is on PUP.

Corner - I think Dunbar is a virtual lock. The question (IMO) is whether Toler makes it over Blackmon.

S - Hall and Cravens stick no matter what, and I have to believe Ihenacho does if he stays healthy. The big battle comes down to Bruton, Carter, Jarrett, Everett and Blackmon (if he doesn't take the 5th corner spot), with only 2 spots available. Since I can't count on Jarrett as of now, I'm going with Bruton and Carter making it, in part due to STs play (Everett's got a chance based on this as well).

ILB - I think Spaight makes it, and if he and Daniels show enough, I'd guess Hayward and Riley are gone with Garvin taking the 5th spot.

DL - I'm going with Murphy over one of Hood/Golston/Reyes.

Wildcard - I have a tough time writing off Bates at OLB. Liked what I saw from him last year, and until something changes, I'm taking him over a 5th ILB (Garvin).

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I say Niles Paul is a lock. He was the starter last year and even though Reed came on, dude will get tons of playing time this season. He can block and knows the offense well.

As for RB, Marshall makes the 53 and gets carries this year.

Those are my early leans for now.

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QB's- Cousins, McCoy, don't need a 3rd, you have 6-8 teams every year that go only 2 QB's

 

WR- I think Diggs seriously challenges for a spot between him Grant and Ross

 

TE- Reed, Paul, Paulsen, ( Carrier on UP list) davis doesn't make team.

 

DL- Everyone on OP list except Hood, IDK if he makes the team..

 

CB - Norman, Breeland, Fuller, Williams/ Toler/Blackmon. I'm thinking Blackmon

 

S- Ihenacho, Hall, Cravens, Carter (Jarrett reserve Pup list, he's not playing this year, lost too much weight and hasn't progressed from injury yet..)

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RB- think that 3rd spot is completely up for grabs, but yeah, it's possible Marshall takes it. I'll be curious to see if they go back with 4 running backs again, carry a 4th TE, or what have you.

TE - After Reed, I think Davis and Paul are almost assured of winning spots (but do they carry 4?).

Wr - I could see someone knocking Ross out, but I think your guess is the safest bet.

OL - I think LeRibeus earns a spot, and Lauvao either starts or is on PUP.

Corner - I think Dunbar is a virtual lock. The question (IMO) is whether Toler makes it over Blackmon.

S - Hall and Cravens stick no matter what, and I have to believe Ihenacho does if he stays healthy. The big battle comes down to Bruton, Carter, Jarrett, Everett and Blackmon (if he doesn't take the 5th corner spot), with only 2 spots available. Since I can't count on Jarrett as of now, I'm going with Bruton and Carter making it, in part due to STs play (Everett's got a chance based on this as well).

ILB - I think Spaight makes it, and if he and Daniels show enough, I'd guess Hayward and Riley are gone with Garvin taking the 5th spot.

DL - I'm going with Murphy over one of Hood/Golston/Reyes.

Wildcard - I have a tough time writing off Bates at OLB. Liked what I saw from him last year, and until something changes, I'm taking him over a 5th ILB (Garvin).

Excellent points!

 

If the Skins go with a 4th RB or TE, I have to believe that Grant is out (unless 3rd QB is on practice squad but I don't think this will happen) because with more weakness on defense, the Redskins will take 26 players on defense and 24 players on offense and not split the count evenly.

 

You could definitely be right that LeRibeus earns a spot, but the rushing game really suffered last year when he played that I hope the Redskins are able to upgrade here.  Re Lauvao, I think he either starts or gets cut because of salary -- does anyone know how much salary cap space the team will save if Lauvao is cut?

 

You are also right that the team will probably list CBs and safeties eveningly but the 5th CB will be someone who they feel can play safety too; as you point out, this could be Dunbar.  Safety position is now relatively much weaker compared to CB.

 

If Murphy is selected over either Reyes, Golston, Hood on DL (of those three, I think it would be Hood that gets cut), then your wish of Bates as fourth OLB could happen while still keeping Garvin as 5th ILB.  I am expecting big contributions from Garvin on special teams so I expect him to be on 53.

 

Bates as OLB, Spaight over Riley and Carter as UDFA are really interesting projections!  I look forward to see how these battles, as well as Blackmon / Toler battle, unfold.

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I say Niles Paul is a lock. He was the starter last year and even though Reed came on, dude will get tons of playing time this season. He can block and knows the offense well.

As for RB, Marshall makes the 53 and gets carries this year.

Those are my early leans for now.

When I think of Paul, I think of his ability to catch the ball as his biggest asset -- not in the same category as Reed, but until last season, Paul had been more dependable (health, etc.).  I thought Paulsen was a better blocker than Paul, but I agree with you, you would want Paul as an option if Reed couldn't play.  With the acquisition of Davis, it's clear that the team is looking for at least 3 TEs who can most ably catch passes and block.  Davis would also be a great mentor for Reed.

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I know we have 4 months or so until we kick - off the season but am I the only one who is worried about Kedric Golston being our possible starting NT when we play the 3-4. I'm hoping mccloughan has something up his sleeve, maybe signing a post June cut FA NT.

HTTR

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Murphy will not be an OLB this year.  He's switched to DL.  I see you noted that as a sub, but he's going to be a DE.

 

You're going to need either 4 RBs or 4 TEs to run a goal line offense package (3 TEs and a FB/H-back). 

 

Not a bad guess considering we haven't seen anything from anyone.

 

Also there is very little chance that we carry only 23 players on offense with Jay Gruden as a Head Coach.  Just my take.

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QB's- Cousins, McCoy, don't need a 3rd, you have 6-8 teams every year that go only 2 QB's

 

WR- I think Diggs seriously challenges for a spot between him Grant and Ross

 

TE- Reed, Paul, Paulsen, ( Carrier on UP list) davis doesn't make team.

 

DL- Everyone on OP list except Hood, IDK if he makes the team..

 

CB - Norman, Breeland, Fuller, Williams/ Toler/Blackmon. I'm thinking Blackmon

 

S- Ihenacho, Hall, Cravens, Carter (Jarrett reserve Pup list, he's not playing this year, lost too much weight and hasn't progressed from injury yet..)

The Redskins could put Sudfeld on the practice squad; however, in so doing, couldn't they lose him?  I didn't think they would have spent a draft pick on Sudfeld in this case but I could be wrong.  If Sudfeld is practice squad bound then the Redskins could keep a 4th TE or RB.

 

Interesting projections on Diggs making team and Davis getting cut.

 

If you don't have Dunbar or Everett or UDFA CB making squad, then 2 out of Williams / Toler / Blackmon could make team (with one of them able to play safety too if necessary).

 

I'm looking forward to watching Tevin Carter and hope he is good enough to earn a spot on the team!

 

 

I think the Redskins will roster five players at safety since Cravens is listed as one of them and because Safety and DL are the weakest positions.  Do you just see four Safeties?

 

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I know we have 4 months or so until we kick - off the season but am I the only one who is worried about Kedric Golston being our possible starting NT when we play the 3-4. I'm hoping mccloughan has something up his sleeve, maybe signing a post June cut FA NT.

HTTR

Agreed.  I am worried about DL (both RDE and DT/NT), Safeties and back-up Center.  The team needs serious upgrades in each of these three areas.  I do expect Scot McCloughan to review post June FA cuts ... and later team cuts to 53... maybe even 75.  Even if no one is picked up immediately, I'm sure he will be keeping tabs on players to make mid-season pick-ups.

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Murphy will not be an OLB this year.  He's switched to DL.  I see you noted that as a sub, but he's going to be a DE.

 

You're going to need either 4 RBs or 4 TEs to run a goal line offense package (3 TEs and a FB/H-back). 

 

Not a bad guess considering we haven't seen anything from anyone.

 

Also there is very little chance that we carry only 23 players on offense with Jay Gruden as a Head Coach.  Just my take.

I thought the Redskins would carry 24 players on offense; if the Redskins go with 4 RBs or 4 TEs, do they only go with 5 WRs, 2 QBs or something else?

 

Do you think the Redskins will just go with Kerrigan, Galette, Smith at OLB or adding a 4th?

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I thought the Redskins would carry 24 players on offense; if the Redskins go with 4 RBs or 4 TEs, do they only go with 5 WRs, 2 QBs or something else?

 

Do you think the Redskins will just go with Kerrigan, Galette, Smith at OLB or adding a 4th?

 

My opinion is it depends on what you do with special teams.

 

If you identify a returner and that player is a RB or a WR, your answer is there.

 

You could justify 24, but I think we'll keep 4 RBs and 4 TEs.  Maybe not initially, but once Carrier is ready off the PUP.

 

RB, whether that be the kid Greene or whether that be PT or another vet.  Too many injury questions right now and questions about Jones, though I think Jones can get it done.

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Alright...here's how I see it at the moment

OFFENSE (LIKELY) - 18

QB - Cousins, McCoy, Sudfeld

RB - Jones, Thompson

WR - Jackson, Garcon, Doctson, Crowder

T - Williams, Moses, Nsekhe

G/C - Scherff, Long, Kuandijio

TE - Reed, Davis, Paul

OFFENSE (POTENTIALS) - 6

RB - Choose at least one from Brown, Marshall, Green

WR - Choose at least one from Grant, Ross, or an UDFA

G/C - Choose at least two of Lichtensteiger, Lauvao, Reiter, LeRibeus, Cofield.

Wildcard - Choose two players not chosen above, or Paulson, Carrier.

DEFENSE (LIKELY) - 21

DE - Paea, Jean-Francois, Murphy

DT - Baker, Ionnidis, Golston

OLB - Kerrigan Gallette, Smith, Bates

ILB - Compton, Foster, Daniels, Spaight

CB - Norman, Breeland, Fuller, Dunbar

S - Hall, Cravens, Ihenacho

DEFENSE (POTENTIALS) - 5

DE - One from Reyes, Hood, Crawford

CB - One from Toler, Blackmon, Everett

S - One from Brutton, Blackmon, UDFA

Wildcard - Choose two from the above players, or Garvin, Hayward, Riley.

IF Jarrett is healthy, he's a lock as the 4th safety. Otherwise, he's likely on IR

But this is WAY early. Have to see how camp goes, have to see what other cuts are done by other teams, etc. But that'd be the early notion in the club house.

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If this team goes 3 RB it had BETTER have a large stable of TEs. we have no FB (darrel young is gone), and personally I'd be surprised if Sudfeld isn't practice squaded.

I think that's exactly the scenario. Reed, Paul, Davis are probably locked and loaded, and you still have Carrier coming back at some point. Paulsen is out there somewhere still too hanging on.

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Unless Studfeld shows he can challenge for backup duties in 2017 (in other words he is not too much of a project) he will be on the PS.  If Marshall shows that he is truly healthy he makes the 53, he could be a key to special teams as Roberts is gone.   I know some of you guys think Ross is gone.  I don't, he is the only one that plays like DJ and last year I thought he took some nice steps forward (look at the Cowboys game).  Same goes for Grant I do believe this might be the year he shows up.

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Paul and Paulson are good on ST's.

 

 

Count me in with the crowd that thinks Paulsen only makes the team if Carrier is on the PUP and he doesn't get beat out by a newbie.

 

Paul is a baller on teams, Paulsen we can live without.

I'd be surprised if Sudfeld isn't practice squaded.

 

Based off his tape, I would not be.  But that's just college tape. Kid has some potential.

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ILB - Compton, Foster, Daniels, Spaight

Wildcard - Choose two from the above players, or Garvin, Hayward, Riley.

 

Thanks for sharing.  It's interesting for me to see several fans with the view of Spaight > Riley.  While clearly a possibilty, that wasn't the way I was initially leaning; I will be very interested to follow this competition during camp.

 

Garvin projects, along with Bruton, to be solid special teams' contributors; I will be interested to see whether they meet these expectations.

 

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Ok, I will play along. Sounds like a fun exercise.

 

Offense - 24

QBs 2 - Cousins, McCoy - Sudfield will be on the PS

RB  3 - Agree

WR 6 - Agree

OL 9 - If No Lauvao (injury) - Rieter and LeRibeus - W/Lauvao - 1 of Rieter/LeRibeus - I think Rieter. Long will not be the back up C. He could not beat out LeRibeus. That is bad.

TE 4 - Reed - Davis - Paul - Paulson - Carrier comes back Paulson could be gone. Paul is not getting cut unless he does not recover - He is a STs captain and was emerging as a top TE before his injury.

 

Defense - 26

DL 7 - Agree

OLB 5 - Add Adam Haywood.

ILB 4 - Daniels goes to PS - I think Spaight will beat out Riley for CAP reasons as much as play. If play is close they cut Riley to save CAP space.

Saf 5 - No UDFA. Also, Cravens will play both S and ILB as the season goes on. He will be a 3 down player for sure.

CB 4 - Agree

 

STs 3 - Agree

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Unless Sudfeld plays lights out in preaseason he'll be on PS.

I really hope we get a rb that emerges either Mack Brown or Marshall but I think we only have 3 on the active roster. Normally we carry four with Young being the full back but I see Paul as the H back and carrying Reed, Davis, and Paulsen. I think Carrier is on IR.

I too am worried a lot about not having a 350 lb DT. With Compton and Foster as solid middle backers but not great, we need a big nose tackle or our run defense is gonna struggle. I mean we can go after the quarterback but what about plugging the middle?

I'm good with our depth in the backfield even with dhall and bruton as our safeties. I think kyshon is on IR unfortunately.

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Thanks for sharing.  It's interesting for me to see several fans with the view of Spaight > Riley.  While clearly a possibilty, that wasn't the way I was initially leaning; I will be very interested to follow this competition during camp.

I would not say that Spaight > Riley. Really, we haven't actually seen much from Spaight due to injury. I'd likely say, if I had to guess, Riley is definitely the better player of the two right now.

But that's not the entire question.

Spaight is in the 2nd year of an extremely cheap rookie deal. Riley is in the last year of a deal that is a few million large.

There's little fear that Spaight would be discouraged or resentful if he's not a starter this year, while it's reasonable to expect that's at least a possibility with someone that's a veteran making starter money.

The one area I do think Spaight is likely better or more available than Riley is when it comes to special teams, which is an important factor when talking about your backup linebackers on a team.

At this point, I'd actually probably prefer to keep Riley IF we don't keep Hayward, and likely even if we do. I'd prefer to have three guys with actual ILB experience on this team for the purposes of depth. But if it somehow comes down to Spaight OR Riley, I'd go with the young guy who is cheaper and has a change to develop over the vet that is likely gone after this season.

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Unless Sudfeld plays lights out in preaseason he'll be on PS.

I really hope we get a rb that emerges either Mack Brown or Marshall but I think we only have 3 on the active roster. Normally we carry four with Young being the full back but I see Paul as the H back and carrying Reed, Davis, and Paulsen. I think Carrier is on IR.

I too am worried a lot about not having a 350 lb DT. With Compton and Foster as solid middle backers but not great, we need a big nose tackle or our run defense is gonna struggle. I mean we can go after the quarterback but what about plugging the middle?

I'm good with our depth in the backfield even with dhall and bruton as our safeties. I think kyshon is on IR unfortunately.

Agreed.  We gave up 4.8 yards per rush last season and lost three starters -- two on the defensive line and the free safety.  Do you think Baker will end up playing DT in lieu of LDE?

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