GeneralGibbs Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Lets break it down.... Cousins had 5 series and here's how it went. 1st Series.... 1st down run...0 yards 2nd down, pressure in the middle pass for 6 yards. 3rd down, pressure from the right pass for 7 yards. 2nd set of downs 1st down run 1 yard 2nd down, interception..... (make your own opinion) 5 Plays...... 2nd Series.... 1st down, fumble by snap, 2 and 13 2nd down, pass for 13 (1st down) 2nd set of downs 1st down pass incomplete. man open pass behind reciever 2nd down pass over the middle for 13 yards slant pass 3rd set of downs 1st down run for 5 yards 2nd down pass, incomplete. man open fell down, easy first down (rookie) 3rd down pass, right side 13 yard gain. (penalty on ravens) 4th set of downs 1st down run 2 yard loss 2nd down false start -5 yards 2nd down and 17, pressure from right and front, pass for 8 yards 3rd down and 8-9, blitz picked up pass for 7 yards. 4th and 1 4th down, morris stopped for minus 1 yard...punt 11 plays..... total 16 plays 3rd series.... 1st down run for 2 yards 2nd down penalty for 5 (2nd and 3) 2nd down run for 1 yard 3rd down pass for 3 yards. 1st down (rolling right away from pressure) 2nd set of downs 1st down pass incomplete 2nd down fun for -2 yards 3rd down bad pass off back foot, pressure but also missed open out route 6 plays..... total 24 plays 4th series.... Holding offense 10 yards, repeat 1st down... 1st and 20 1st down again, pass short right 7 yards. 2nd and 13. 2nd down, lob pass right side 17-18 yards. 2nd set of downs..... 1st down, run 2 yards 2nd down, pass 7 yards 3rd down, run for 17 by Matt Jones...first down 3rd set of downs... 1st down, pass incomplete Roberts could not hold on 2nd down, pass 1 yard to Morris. 3 down, Cousins audible, pressure up the middle, pass good but deflected into another Skins receiver. TD. (Crazy play + pressure + no INT) 8 plays.... total 32 plays 5th series... 1st down, pass right for 5 yards. 2nd down, pas incomplete, roughing passer...first down 2nd set of downs... 1st down, pass bated down + caught by cousins and run for 3 yards. 2nd down, pass for 8 yards 3rd set of downs... 1st down, pass for 10 yards 4th set of downs... 1st down, screen pass for 2 yards 2nd down, pass for 12 yards 5th set of downs... 1st down, pass short left 25 yards down to the 2 yard line 6th set of downs.... 2st down, run 2 yard TD!!! 9 plays....41 total plays. THATS HOG FOOTBALL! 7 of 7 on the 2 MIN Drill. Redskins 14 first downs vs. 7 first downs for the Ravens. 217 1st half yards. Defense and Special Teams looked UGLY! But our Offense was able to Compete. It took a bit to get going but look at the total number of plays...Defense was tired second half. McCoy was playing against a tired and confused D. He looked good though. I like "Compete" Do you guys want to fight over QB or do you guys like "Compete". Cousins will get rid of the INT bug, I have no doubt. Only one thing left to say.... CHARGE!!!!!!! WHAT DO YOU SAY????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dckey Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This whole debate of who looks better as the qb is getting real tiresome. Do you think we would have won that game against the Ravens if it were the regular season? NO!!!!!!! Look RG3 looked bad and probably should not start, but please stop making it like we look good with Cousins..... I don't think we have a starting qb on our roster... Cousins moved the ball better than RG3 but we still didn't even score a fg against there first team def. Honestly the score should have been 20-0 if it weren't for the refs given us a break and a missed fg. That TD of the hands of Roberts was lucky. I'm just tired of trying to look good in defeat. It seems like we win in all stat categories except the most important stat (wins). I just don't understand someone had posted we will be 4-12 again this year after an 1-5 start RG3 will be replaced by Cousins. That means Cousins will go 3-7. People are thinking that this is our future. RG3 is not our future but neither is Cousins or McCoy. Sorry but I just want to win, I don't care who moves the ball the best................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santanathegreat Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 LOL I find it hilarious that people are reaching to make Cousins look good. His INT was just pathetic. His "touchdown pass" was deflected and should have been picked. They probably would have lost the game. Cousins is a preseason winner. In the regular season, he's no better than any other QB on the roster. But keep reaching guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Welp, you guys wanted more threads, lol. We'll see how this one goes. Try to discuss the OP, fellas. If you can't, just leave it alone. And santanathegreat, you gotta stop with the baiting/trollish remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 LOL I find it hilarious that people are reaching to make Cousins look good. His INT was just pathetic. His "touchdown pass" was deflected and should have been picked. They probably would have lost the game. Cousins is a preseason winner. In the regular season, he's no better than any other QB on the roster. But keep reaching guys. So you are projecting an imaginary outcome to a game that didn't happen, and other people are reaching? His INT was probably a poor decision, but a great play on the defender's part. Most importantly, he showed the ability to bounce back after the INT, which was seriously in doubt in the past. That shows growth. That TD was a perfectly thrown ball that Roberts let bounce off his hands. No idea why you think that "should" have been picked. He got lucky that Crowder caught it and scored, but the throw itself was fine. Roberts is the one who sucks. Edit: I see your post thesubmittedone. I'll make this my one response to a non-OP post in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 LOL I find it hilarious that people are reaching to make Cousins look good. His INT was just pathetic. His "touchdown pass" was deflected and should have been picked. They probably would have lost the game. Cousins is a preseason winner. In the regular season, he's no better than any other QB on the roster. But keep reaching guys. You sure it should have been picked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakinaiken Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 LOL I find it hilarious that people are reaching to make Cousins look good. His INT was just pathetic. His "touchdown pass" was deflected and should have been picked. They probably would have lost the game. Cousins is a preseason winner. In the regular season, he's no better than any other QB on the roster. But keep reaching guys I find it more hilarious that presumably, a cogent, rational human being like yourself, can't decipher the difference between Rg3's play and Cousins' play. Couldn't care less about the INT- great players make plays sometime (Suggs is ok). You derived no happiness actually watching a competent offense move the ball? Actually gaining yards? I don't understand this criticism- perhaps i never will. One play sold me tonight: Third down blitz that Scherff fails to pick up from the right side. Unblocked LB is untouched and lines up a certain, inevitable "hit" on QB Cousins. Cousins immediately recognizes and reacts with a flat pass to Matt Jones who gains 17 yards on the play. No chance Griffin responds/reacts in that manner. Zero chance. Despite Cousins' shortcomings, he's a better Quarterback in this offense. I'm not sure that can be disputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradboyd80 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Thanks for the summary, General Gibbs. Wasn't able to watch the game. Very happy to see the offense came alive against some actual starters. But its still disappointing (although not surprising) to see so many people putting one QB down to prop the other one up. It looks as though Cousins played well. We should all feel encouraged by that. Regardless of who is on the field, we should hope they do well and win us some games instead of trying to push agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Nobody is putting RG3 down, just to prop KC1 up. People are tired of a frail kid who can't play QB in the NFL, who runs his mouth on FB too much. Let Kirk take reps with starters and see if it works just tired of losing and drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Nobody is putting RG3 down, just to prop KC1 up. People are tired of a frail kid who can't play QB in the NFL, who runs his mouth on FB too much. This is putting RGIII down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradboyd80 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Nobody is putting RG3 down, just to prop KC1 up. People are tired of a frail kid who can't play QB in the NFL, who runs his mouth on FB too much. Let Kirk take reps with starters and see if it works just tired of losing and drama. Actually, I didn't say they were specifically putting RG3 down. Quite honestly, it's moreso the other way. There are a lot of people trying to dismiss what Cousins has done so far this preseason. I've been one of Robert's biggest supporters, but it's painfully obvious that Cousins has shown to be more successful at moving this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup22 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Nobody is putting RG3 down, just to prop KC1 up. People are tired of a frail kid who can't play QB in the NFL, who runs his mouth on FB too much. Let Kirk take reps with starters and see if it works just tired of losing and drama. No problem is We are coming to conclusion that given the same amount of plays rg3 wouldn't have been able to get ball in the end zone once...rg3 has underperformed I'll admit it but with a total of 16 passes over 2 games...this game just raised more questions didn't settle anything n as Tarik el bashir said...he can't even say he should start after the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I thought Cousins did okay. I really liked the two minute drill and he had some other throws. He took some hits and got some other throws off. The perfect throw wasn't perfect. You're not supposed to throw high over the middle. If it gets by the receiver the waiting safety scoops it up on a normal play, if bobbled it's more likely to be intercepted, and if caught you're making your receiver a target for a BIG hit. Still, Crowder took advantage and made it a great play. The fumbled snap was annoying. The game was a mixed bag. He did okay. Maybe a little better than okay. Frankly, I put it at the level of RGIII in (edit) Cleveland... maybe a little better, but sample size makes it tough to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 @Burgold you would be Cousins performance at the level of RGIII with Detroit? You serious dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 @Burgold you would be Cousins performance at the level of RGIII with Detroit? You serious dude? I think so. Cousin's TD to Crowder was as lucky as Griffin's to Garcon was unlucky. Griffin effectively led two scoring drives in the first quarter. He moved the ball pretty well and the running game picked up the rest of the slack. Like Griffin, Cousins took a few hard hits yesterday, but, but no sacks. Cousins had the INT on a play where he should have thrown the ball at his receivers' feet or tossed it high over his head incomplete, but he also had a snap fumble. Cousins had a few misses, balls at the feet just like Griffin had his misses, high ones to Spencer and the bad fades. The running game worked better for Griffin. Cousins didn't have any help in that regard. I think they are comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think so. Cousin's TD to Crowder was as lucky as Griffin's to Garcon was unlucky. Griffin effectively led two scoring drives in the first quarter. He moved the ball pretty well and the running game picked up the rest of the slack. Like Griffin, Cousins took a few hard hits yesterday, but, but no sacks. Cousins had the INT on a play where he should have thrown the ball at his receivers' feet or tossed it high over his head incomplete, but he also had a snap fumble. Cousins had a few misses, balls at the feet just like Griffin had his misses, high ones to Spencer and the bad fades. The running game worked better for Griffin. Cousins didn't have any help in that regard. I think they are comparable. you said Detroit, not Cleveland, so your first example is wrong. Against Detroit, RGIII looked so freaking lost out there you would swear he was 3rd string rookie. Against Detroit, RGIII took a hit on almost every dropback and as Cooley explained on the tape, half was his fault not recognizing where the pressure is coming from and how to direct his OL to cover that pressure. Against Detroit, even the few passes he did get out, his footwork looked terrible. Should I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Kev Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Not ANOTHER Cousin's thread!!! REALLY?? Can't we merge all these things?? Nah, just messing. I don't really understand the negative comments. Up until Thursday/Friday, Cousins had been taking snaps with the 2nd team and didn't expect to start. He did start off a bit slowly and had the early INT. But the way he recovered from it says a lot. I bet a lot of us were thinking "here we go again, Captain Meltdown" I know I was. But he recovered from the early pick, was comfortable in the pocket, got the ball out quickly and moved the chains. He ran the two minute offense crisply at the end of the half and generally looked competent. There is always the possibility that in a real game, with real pressure, Cousins will revert to his old self, But just judging him on this game (or even, this preseason) I thought the kid did good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Truth Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think so. Cousin's TD to Crowder was as lucky as Griffin's to Garcon was unlucky. Griffin effectively led two scoring drives in the first quarter. He moved the ball pretty well and the running game picked up the rest of the slack. Like Griffin, Cousins took a few hard hits yesterday, but, but no sacks. Cousins had the INT on a play where he should have thrown the ball at his receivers' feet or tossed it high over his head incomplete, but he also had a snap fumble. Cousins had a few misses, balls at the feet just like Griffin had his misses, high ones to Spencer and the bad fades. The running game worked better for Griffin. Cousins didn't have any help in that regard. I think they are comparable. C'mon man. Comparing Cousins performance to RG3 performance in Detroit is like comparing Apples to Oranges. Its no where near close. Plus that dropped pass by Garcon happened in the Cleveland game if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Should I go on? not to mention the fact that the offense flows when cousin is in the game. Cousin's drives averaged over 8 plays/drive and scored while RG3's drives averaged around 3.8ish and did not. this is because cousins can routinely complete passes on 2nd and 8 and 3rd and long, while rg3 stuggles mightily in this area. also, the fluke TD play to crowder was a good pass that roberts dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 About that throw to Garcon by RG3, he missed it. So the ifs and buts are just excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 C'mon man. Comparing Cousins performance to RG3 performance in Detroit is like comparing Apples to Oranges. Its no where near close. Plus that dropped pass by Garcon happened in the Cleveland game if im not mistaken. Sorry... sorry. Morning brain. I meant Cleveland and not Detroit at all. RGIII did nothing in Detroit. He was dreadful not that he had much of a chance, but that was UGLY. I meant Cleveland. About that throw to Garcon by RG3, he missed it. So the ifs and buts are just excuses. Nope. Say what you want, but RGIII didn't miss it. The play was missed, but not by the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Come on man,it was thrown late. Timing is important in this league. It is a miss in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Come on man,it was thrown late. Timing is important in this league. It is a miss in my book. I'm pulling us off topic so I won't comment again about that throw, but that was a catch I could have made and would have been mad at myself for missing. That was a catch a ten year old would have been embarrassed to miss. The late crap is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I am not going to talk about RG3, but since this is a Cousins thread,it should be mentioned that we had some drops in this game as well. It is part of the game. Cousins would look even better without those drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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