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Forbes.com (Stan Collender): Now 60% Chance Of A Government Shutdown


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Forbes.com (Stan Collender): Now 60% Chance Of A Government Shutdown

Brief Summary:

1) Congress is running ot of time to "debate" ovre budget decisions

2) Congressional R's and D's are at an Impasse over military spending vs. domestic spending (R's want to increase military spending to the detriment of domestic spending)

3) Republicans are Trying to Defund Planned Parenthood and it may be an issue in the Continuing Resolution

 

Ohhh - the new fiscal year is coming, so its time for Congress to do the annual "shutdown" dance.  *Sigh* and they wonder why Trump is kicking butt...

 

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Increased defense spending should be our #1 priority as this chart demonstrates. Right now we are only spending as much as the next 7 countries combined, which is obviously unacceptable.

 

We should not rest until we're spending 5 times as much as the next 7 countries combined. Assault rifles for every man, woman, child, and dog. Individual tanks for every soldier. 

 

What's next on the Agenda of Stupid? 

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Although, I will observe, not funding Planned Parenthood absolutely is within Congress' authority.

You can certainly debate whether defunding access to contraception to appease the intentionally lied to is a wise exercise of that power. But I'd say it's nowhere close to the level of threatening to intentionally cause the Great Depression unless Congress passes legislation they want.

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In the same boat as Fergusun.  I'm a Fed, I work hard.  Contrary to popular belief, most Feds do work hard, though we have bad apples like everyone else.  Most of the time, it's a nice gig, good benefits.  But I'm getting used to being used as a chess piece each October, as it's become an annual occurrence.

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hell, i'll take another paid vacation.  I had two weeks off in Oct back in 2013, a few days after Grand Theft Auto V was released.  That worked out quite well :)

 

And I agree with Forehead, the 1102 series Federal office I work in is getting slammed with work, especially as we get close to fiscal year end.  We are busy year round, and everybody here works hard.  No slackers.

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Increased defense spending should be our #1 priority as this chart demonstrates. Right now we are only spending as much as the next 7 countries combined, which is obviously unacceptable.

We should not rest until we're spending 5 times as much as the next 7 countries combined. Assault rifles for every man, woman, child, and dog. Individual tanks for every soldier.

What's next on the Agenda of Stupid?

Hey, that spending provides a lot of jobs. Just think of how many high school students would have to go on welfare if they couldn't join the military

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In the same boat as Fergusun.  I'm a Fed, I work hard.  Contrary to popular belief, most Feds do work hard, though we have bad apples like everyone else.  Most of the time, it's a nice gig, good benefits.  But I'm getting used to being used as a chess piece each October, as it's become an annual occurrence.

 

 

hell, i'll take another paid vacation.  I had two weeks off in Oct back in 2013, a few days after Grand Theft Auto V was released.  That worked out quite well :)

 

And I agree with Forehead, the 1102 series Federal office I work in is getting slammed with work, especially as we get close to fiscal year end.  We are busy year round, and everybody here works hard.  No slackers.

Laughing at the Feds who say they work hard while posting on a Redskins message board during work hours.  I'm not hating, I'm doing the same thing.  :ph34r:

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Laughing at the Feds who say they work hard while posting on a Redskins message board during work hours.  I'm not hating, I'm doing the same thing.  :ph34r:

 

It's cool.  My office does FOIA case work for my agency.  There are times where my computer is running reports and I'm waiting a few minutes for it to finish, which is usually when I post.  Right now it's lunch.  But yeah, my office is on track for about 53,000 cases this year, and we have a staff of 25 or so.  We work our asses off.

 

While I understand the whole "paid vacation" thing, it doesn't really help when there's a mortgage, daycare, and other bills which would be better paid with a steadier income, rather than getting a pot of money three weeks later.

Really want to meet all these hard working Feds.

 

They exist, believe it or not.  And problems do occasionally get dealt with, contrary to popular belief.  In the past year, I've had to fire someone personally, as well as sit in as a witness on a second firing.  Well, not firing, I suppose the technical term is "allowed to resign" and they were two extremely difficult moments.

 

There is some accountability, the main issue is that some supervisors choose to ignore or shove the problem to another office because the Federal unions make the process of removing someone as much of a hassle as they possibly can.  My dislike for them has grown significantly since I ascended to management.

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Hey, that spending provides a lot of jobs. Just think of how many high school students would have to go on welfare if they couldn't join the military

I'm all for the military, and I'm all for the opportunity it offers.

 trouble is, we need something for all those soldiers to do, or it's just another propped up bit of govt waste. Maintaining readiness is one thing, but that can't necessarily equate to "we'll take anyone who signs up".

And the problem there is that soldiers soldier..  and while it's true sometimes that is absolutely necessary, i'd hate to think we would go SO military-industrial complex as to create military situations so as to have them earn their pay.

 

~Bang

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.... To roaring crowds.

He learned his lesson after the ****show that was the prior shutdown. He was open about it before but it wasn't until it backfired and he made his whole party look terrible (well, more terrible than usual at least) that he suddenly started claiming, ex post facto, that it was Obama who forced the shut down. Now he is just saying it before he gets started so he can cover his ass later; the guy is a pure politician through and through. It would be hilarious if it weren't for the fact that so many people fed at the trough once he poured the slop in.

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Now, though, I will point out: 

 

If the GOP acts on this with their traditional unanimity, (not guaranteed, but I'm not holding my breath), then they don;t have to shut down the government. 

 

If they can pass a CR with the "de-fund" language in it, then they can send to Obama a "sign this, and the government keeps running" bill.  And leave it up to Obama to sign it or not. 

 

If they do that, and Obama vetoes it, then I don't think it's at all guaranteed that the voters blame the GOP for the shutdown. 

 

(I'm not sure, in that case, if I blame the GOP for the shutdown.  I might blame them for defunding thousands of low income medical facilities over a Michael Moore propaganda video.  But not for the shutdown.) 

 

In that hypothetical, then it's not a case of the GOP filibustering a bill that will keep the government running, without any strings attached.  Congress is simply passing a budget.  (Well, a CR.)  Something which they have the sole Constitutional authority, to do. 

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Now, though, I will point out: 

 

If the GOP acts on this with their traditional unanimity, (not guaranteed, but I'm not holding my breath), then they don;t have to shut down the government. 

 

If they can pass a CR with the "de-fund" language in it, then they can send to Obama a "sign this, and the government keeps running" bill.  And leave it up to Obama to sign it or not. 

 

If they do that, and Obama vetoes it, then I don't think it's at all guaranteed that the voters blame the GOP for the shutdown. 

 

(I'm not sure, in that case, if I blame the GOP for the shutdown.  I might blame them for defunding thousands of low income medical facilities over a Michael Moore propaganda video.  But not for the shutdown.) 

 

In that hypothetical, then it's not a case of the GOP filibustering a bill that will keep the government running, without any strings attached.  Congress is simply passing a budget.  (Well, a CR.)  Something which they have the sole Constitutional authority, to do. 

That's true. I'm just going on the most recent news about them not having the votes to pass it and using that as an assumption since they aren't really super close, either (I think it was 53 votes last time I read).

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