KDawg Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Understand I did some guesswork on some placing on the depth chart, because honestly, I have no idea who some of these younger additions are I removed all free agents: Unrestricted, Restricted, AND Exclusive Rights.I'm assuming we stay 3-4 with this list as well. Needs change if we go 4-3.As always, if I screwed up someone's position let me know.Quarterback:Robert Griffin IIIKirk Cousins Colt McCoy Runningback:Alfred MorrisSilas ReddMichael HillFullback:Darrell YoungJordan Campbell Wide Receiver:Desean JacksonPierre GarconAndre RobertsRyan GrantJerry Rice, Jr.Braylon BellColin LockettRashad RossCenter:Kory LichtensteigerTyler LarsonGuard:Shawn LauvaoChris ChesterSpencer LongJosh LeRibeusTackle:Trent WilliamsTom ComptonMorgan Moses Xavier NixonEdawn CoughmanRishaw JohnsonTy NsekheTight End:Jordan ReedNiles PaulLogan PaulsenChase DixonJe'Ronn HammCorner:DeAngelo Hall Chris CulliverBashaud BreelandDavid AmersonTracy PorterJustin RogersKenny OkoroCourtney Bridget, JrTrey WolfeDefensive End:Jason HatcherStephen PaeaRicky Jean FrancoisKedric GolstonFrank KearseKenneth HorsleyNose Tackle:Terrance KnightonChris BakerRobert ThomasTravian RobertsonIsaako AaituiLaKendrick RossInside Linebacker:Keenan RobinsonPerry RileyWill ComptonAdam HaywardSteve BeauharnaisJa'Gerad DavisAustin SpitlerOutside Linebacker:Ryan KerriganTrent MurphyGabe MillerJackson JeffcoatTrevardo WilliamsJames GayleRicky SappSafety: Duke Ihenacho Jeron JohnsonPhillip ThomasTrenton RobinsonAkeem DavisDa'Mon Cromartie-SmithUpdated 3/18 - McCoy signing Roster is rounding out nicely, but we still have massive holes and question marks. But it's in much better shape than it was. That may or may not be saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 In your evaluation (which I think is quite good), you forgot to mention how questionable the QB position is. Also, we are pretty good at K and P. The Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdiscokid Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Wow, that's a depressing list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 In your evaluation (which I think is quite good), you forgot to mention how questionable the QB position is. Also, we are pretty good at K and P. The Rook Plenty of threads already about the QBs. I would imagine that would probably have something to do with why it would be left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Off-Season Priorities, I think: 1. FS 2. DE/NT 3. LG 4. DE/NT 5. RT 6. RG/C 7. SS 8. TE 9. ILB 10. CB Listed in order of emphasis. A Pass-Blocking TE should be high on the list, but he isn't someone that would likely come from our top resources. I actually trust McCloughan to get a SS and CB (at least depth/pieces) in the 4th to 6th rounds. FS might need to be a FA acquisition, since the draft is a bit weak and it's always tough to get a pure FS, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 We'll see. While I think the biggest weaknesses on the team are the DL and Safety, at least they have some bodies at DL. Where at Safety they don't. And I can't believe with Haslett gone and a new GM, we're going to see Merriweather or Clark again. So, really, it's the great abyss. For me, the entire off-season strategy rests on the question about the OL: Can some combination of Long/Ribbs/Compton/Moses lock down 2 OL spots? If yes, then that makes it easier to spend resources on other positions. If not, then they're looking for 3 starters on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 We'll see. While I think the biggest weaknesses on the team are the DL and Safety, at least they have some bodies at DL. Where at Safety they don't. And I can't believe with Haslett gone and a new GM, we're going to see Merriweather or Clark again. So, really, it's the great abyss. For me, the entire off-season strategy rests on the question about the OL: Can some combination of Long/Ribbs/Compton/Moses lock down 2 OL spots? If yes, then that makes it easier to spend resources on other positions. If not, then they're looking for 3 starters on the OL. That's where I am too. OL and Safety are at the top of the list for me. Especially RT, G, and C. Polombus stunk up the place and our interior line looked like they were throwing lookout blocks on every play. I also wouldn't mind seeing another halfway decent CB or two come in. We saw what injuries do to an already less than mediocre secondary, not to mention Hall isn't getting any younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 We'll see. While I think the biggest weaknesses on the team are the DL and Safety, at least they have some bodies at DL. Where at Safety they don't. And I can't believe with Haslett gone and a new GM, we're going to see Merriweather or Clark again. So, really, it's the great abyss. . Well, the DL becomes much more terrifying when you consider Bowen and Golston are likely gone ... and Cofield could be close behind. I read DE as: Jason Hatcher, Frank Kearse, Kenneth Horsley and NT as: Chris Baker and a bunch of guys i don't expect to touch the 53-man Meaning our DL likely includes: Hatcher, Baker, Kearse who would make the 53-man ... that's 3 DL-men. Woof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah, our DL is ugly. We need to shore that up big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'm interested to see what Scot's strategy is in how he plans to build. Some guys will take one year and go directly for defensive talent and depth, others will go after fixing the offensive holes and get depth, and others want to spread all the pieces out they can on both sides of the ball. Anyone have any insight on his history with that? Considering SF and Seattle the past couple years I'm going to assume we'll see a big emphasis on defensive depth. But considering all the holes we have on both sides of the ball who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah, our DL is ugly. We need to shore that up big time. The DL has more holes than the OL in my opinion. At least on the OL you have Moses, Long and Compton that could develop. Yes, the OL needs a strong OG and RT and eventual OC but we have some youth and depth there. The DL has none of that. I would love to move back from #5 ... even if it means to like #20 and we get some 3rds and 4ths ... I would love to add 1 NT and 1 DE ... and maybe another one in the mid-rounds. That's how bad it is, IMO. While Shane Ray is likely BPA, and I wouldn't mind the pick, it's also going to be at a position where we have some youth/depth at OLB at least. DL has none of that. Of course, if you're switching to the 4-3 then we can completely change the discussion. Cofield, Baker and Hatcher would play DT and Kerrigan and Murphy would play DE ... and Ray would fit at DE there and provide depth. I would still like to add a young DT somewhere, but at least you have some youth infused on the DL with Kerrigan, Murphy and a possible Ray/Gregory pick on the ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah, our DL is ugly. We need to shore that up big time. I completely agree. I have been advocating that our pick at #5 should be on the DL. Best pass-rushing DL they can find, assuming it's not a super reach. Here's the thing: if you look at the positions that are of the most need, I think you have DL, Safety, OL, TE as the top 4. There are bodies at WR, RB, LB. (I'm leaving QB out of the conversation, because it just muddles the entire conversation.) For the OL, there are 2 spots set: LT and C. I think that #5 is too high to pick an OG. My opinion. It's also probably too high to pick a RT. Top 5 picks on the OL are generally LT. Unless you have a complete stud at safety, like a Sean Taylor type of freak athlete, top 10 is a bit high for that position. Same with TE. So, unless you can trade down, and get a few more picks, then the position of greatest need which would qualify for a top 5 pick is on the DL. Now, if they can trade down to ~10-15, then a lot more positions come into play, where you're really not reaching for a position you should be able to pick up in rounds 2-4. Having said that, I am FULLY on board with picking OL/DL in the first 2 rounds of the draft. I think it's essential to spend high draft picks on the OL/DL. But I'm not sure OG/RT is a value at #5. Which is why I suggest grabbing the best DL with #5, and the best OG/RT with #37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The way i see it, the Skins needs a young/cheap talent infusion at every position. BPA all the way in the draft. Hell I wouldn't be mad if they did pick Copper or Collins with the 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 But I think it's pretty clear at this rate that McCloughan goes BPA regardless. Would he prefer to trade #5 and recoup some picks? Of course. But he won't sit there and take the #17 player Danny Shelton over the #3 player Shane Ray, and I wouldn't want him to.That's why this really is a 2-3 year rebuild. We might really need a 3-4 NT this year ... but maybe we don't get him. Maybe we get an OG in the 2nd and a pass-rushing OLB in the first. Well assuming the research on them was thorough and they pan out, those positions should be well-represented in 2-3 years. 2016/2017 should be the target, not this year. We won't go into the season in a 3-4 with Hatcher, Kearse and 3 no-name guys at DE ... but we might also not go into it with a 1st round pick because the value wasn't right. McCloughan targets the best player. Maybe for us, that means we bring in a 4th round project to be a body ... and maybe he doesn't make an impact in 2015, but maybe in 2017 he will be a key contributor. I guess that's my take away. I'm all-in for 2017 and beyond. Meaning, yes, our DL sucks. But let's just get the best 7-10 players we can through the draft process and bring in some UDFA to compete for depth spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCdangerous Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Wow! I completely forgot about Jerry Rice Jr! Scott McClue'n will definitely want to evaluate JRJr to remember his 49ers days! Once he comes back from injury.Everyone will want Scott to look for the next Sean Taylor (and the next Hogs). L Collins is a SS. Maybe he is the next Laron Landry. But FS is a top priority. then CB, then DT, then maybe SS. The core Redskins to build around would be: RB Alfred MorrisFB Darrell YoungWR Pierre GarconWR DeSean JacksonLT Trent WilliamsOLB Ryan KerriganMLB Keenan RobinsionMLB Perry Riley JrCB Bashaud Breeland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'd love to see what we could get for the 5th pick. At this point my strategy would be to stock as many mid round picks as you can. I wanna see us get to the point that people are sick of hearing "And with the next pick in the draft the Redskins select..." in the middle rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Misdirection” Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Isn't James Gayle an OLB? He played OLB/DE at Virginia Tech. Don't remember him being on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Wow! I completely forgot about Jerry Rice Jr! Scott McClue'n will definitely want to evaluate JRJr to remember his 49ers days! Once he comes back from injury. Everyone will want Scott to look for the next Sean Taylor (and the next Hogs). L Collins is a SS. Maybe he is the next Laron Landry. But FS is a top priority. then CB, then DT, then maybe SS. The core Redskins to build around would be: RB Alfred Morris FB Darrell Young WR Pierre Garcon WR DeSean Jackson LT Trent Williams OLB Ryan Kerrigan MLB Keenan Robinsion MLB Perry Riley Jr CB Bashaud Breeland Agree with all of the above except for Perry Riley. I think we can improve there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Isn't James Gayle an OLB? He played OLB/DE at Virginia Tech. Don't remember him being on the inside. Yes he is an OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitejimmy Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Agree with all of the above except for Perry Riley. I think we can improve there. I also don't think you build around a running back. I love Alf, but RB's only have a 3-4 year shelf life. He'll have a lot of mileage by the time we're competitive again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Get to work, Scot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Don't say the words "need" and "safety" too loud or a certain individual will come in riding his wild horse to tell you what a jack *** that makes you. I agree, we need stuff everywhere, but it certainly would be nice to have a safety so that we can stop watching the opponent's 80 yard TD passes every other game. I mean, it's not like the team hasn't TRIED to build the DL and LBers up. Regardless of what anyone says, you can't just put grandma at safety with a good pass rush. There is such a thing as a coverage sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Lol WE know that. But it doesn't seem like the team does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You need to remove Tevita Stevens. He hasn't signed a futures contract. Well, the DL becomes much more terrifying when you consider Bowen and Golston are likely gone ... and Cofield could be close behind. I read DE as: Jason Hatcher, Frank Kearse, Kenneth Horsley and NT as: Chris Baker and a bunch of guys i don't expect to touch the 53-man Meaning our DL likely includes: Hatcher, Baker, Kearse who would make the 53-man ... that's 3 DL-men. Woof. hey, we'll be looking for reasons to to keep Ross. At 360 pounds he's got the size of a true NT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The good and bad of this is that we literally can't miss in the draft. BPA could yield a couple or more starters from the 2015 draft alone. Thanks for putting this together, KDawg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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