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Having a PM conversation with my buddy Randy (BOAW) and he said I should start a thread with it, word for word. So here it goes...

Well for one, everybody is white man. I'm not even kidding. I mean there's a few Hispanics here and there but that's it. Everybody looks the same, dresses the same, drives the same type of car. There's no culture, no flavor, it's just dull. One of my fav things about the DMV is when you ask someone where they're from, half the time you have no idea what the hell they're gonna say. You meet people from places you didn't even know existed until talking to them. Love hearing their stories, where they come from, how they got there. And a related note, considering I'm single and I've never dated white American girl in my life this place is just... (I dated a Russian girl in LA, it's not a race thing. Just find it dull to date someone with the same background as me)

Two, it's crazy how big the weed thing is here. Already. Recently read a piece, mightve been on here, the difference between Portugals decriminalization of drugs and Colorado's commercialization of weed. I might agree with that. Which is a lot coming from someone like me. **** is just annoying. And I really don't like tweakers.

Three, I kinda knew before but now I know for certain, I'm an East Coast guy. The air just feels different on the West (and I'm not talking about the altitude). I mean I really think you could blindful me and fly me somewhere and I could tell which coast we landed on. And it just reminds me of my past times out West. That's not a good thing.

Four, I'll end it like this: me and my brother have A TON of similarities, we share a lot (we're only a year a part). But deep down we have major structural difference. The best way I can put it is I'm a DC/DMV person and he's a Virginia person. He can transition out here and not miss a beat. This place was made for him even. Me on the other hand? I just feel out of place, don't feel comfortable and I miss home.

Hopefully any of this makes sense. Thanks for letting me vent.

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Moved from NOVA back in 1983. Found myself in Homestead Florida for nearly 4 years after that. Move in to Park City Utah back in 1987. Way up in the air at the time,numbering around 3500 people. Move from there to here,South of Carson City Nevada.  Love the West. Got to drive around the Bay area a couple of months ago. I would just as soon not do that again. Guess I'm a Western mountain man. ;)

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I'm a born and bred NOVA guy, but I lived in small town PA for 3 years, and Richmond for 1 year.  Nova is ok, PA was better, and I still don't know how I feel about RIchmond.

 

But I swear I'll live out my years on the west coast.  Or close to it.  I've never felt more "at home" than in Southern California, but it could be anywhere out there...Colorado included.  The air is definitely different.  And I love it.

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Moved from NOVA back in 1983. Found myself in Homestead Florida for nearly 4 years after that. Move in to Park City Utah back in 1987. Way up in the air at the time,numbering around 3500 people. Move from there to here,South of Carson City Nevada. Love the West. Got to drive around the Bay area a couple of months ago. I would just as soon not do that again. Guess I'm a Western mountain man. ;)

Don't you kind of live out in the middle of no where? I'd like to tell myself I'd enjoy that but I know it's not true. I need to be around people. And my type of people (a huge variety of them)

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Yep. That would be one way of putting it. It's not middle of the nowhere like Tonopah,Goldfield,or Bishop though.  The city life isn't that far away if I need a bit of that.  :)  I enjoy this. Proximity to really getting away from it all is like in Utah. Close. 

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I'm a born and bred NOVA guy, but I lived in small town PA for 3 years, and Richmond for 1 year. Nova is ok, PA was better, and I still don't know how I feel about RIchmond.

But I swear I'll live out my years on the west coast. Or close to it. I've never felt more "at home" than in Southern California, but it could be anywhere out there...Colorado included. The air is definitely different. And I love it.

I mean to each his own. I lived in Vegas for a year, LA a year, San Diego for a year (and then Texas--Fort Hood, Army--for a few. But I like to just forget about that. Austin is nice though).

I got different issues with SoCal. The weather is nice though (though I thought it got boring after awhile).

Vegas is still, by far, the worst. I always tell people, make sure you already have your ticket back when you go and never go for more than a few days. That place eats people alive. Eats their souls. **** is depressing. Easy way to tell Vegas residents from the tourists: the residents look like the undead

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The wife and I just got out here in June, and have not spent any time in Denver.

We did spend a month with her sister in Greely while our apartment was getting ready and...yuck. The only difference in feel between Greely (actually Platteville...close enough) and El Paso was more grass covering the sand and the nice stockyard smell when the wind shifted, which I suppose is a little better than the burning tire smell when the winds would come from from Juarez. Oh, and my wife sat and listened to a conversation with her some of her new co-workers about politics and it was not "President Obama" but "that N-word"...not very endearing.

We are really liking Ft. Collins so far though. It feels like the best parts of the West (I spent part of my teen years in Boise) and the South (the "hi y'all" friendliness without the "oh good they're gone, let's start gossiping about them" vibe). Green, lots of trees, rain and water without being humid, small town feel without feeling like you are missing anything. Plus they have a Cane's Chicken which I got addicted to in Louisiana :)

Very monochrome though, I will give ya that.

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You know what, **** it. I'll go into why I didn't like SoCal: I thought, still think, that is the most racist and segregated place I've ever been in my life. Are there people from everywhere like the DMV? Sure. But they all got their own neighborhoods and they all stay in their own neighborhoods. Complete opposite of the DMV. I always tell people my my favorite spot in DC is 14th and Park in NW. Columbia Heights. They got this fountain there that people bring their kids to play in. And if there are 20 people there and you ask all 20 of them where they're originally from, you'll get 20 different answers. I love that.

Back to SoCal though, I swear everyone and their mothers smokes crystal meth. And tweakers are the most deplorable type of people that exist. If you ask them if the sky is blue and they say yes, you better still look and check. (I still pray for them, that they turn it around. But stay away from me until you do.)

But yeah, they're ate definitely parts of SoCal that I love. It's beautiful, the weather is amazing, there's a ton of **** to do. Just isn't for me.

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Charlotte is the smallest city I have ever lived in.

 

My rule has always been I need at least NBA and NFL in that city. So when I moved here my options were Dallas, Miami, Charlotte, Phoenix.

 

It's odd sometimes but it is comfortable all the same.

Nice cost of living, traffic is laughable, people want to talk more randomly in smaller cities. That takes getting used to. Slow lines at nearly any store...ugh. I miss the big city life, but I make up for it by going to DC a few times a year, going to Atlanta here and there (lived there before it was the Atlanta it is now), Vegas, NYC, Boston, Miami...pretty much every year.

 

I've never been to Denver (besides the airport) but my brother lived there for a few years. I'll ask him and get back to you.

Hell, Chew has lived there for a while now...just ask him.

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Yeah I thought about chew posting this. I know how much he loves it here. Kinda felt bad lol

The DC thing I miss most is the diversity and the fact that there is always something to do...always. I miss that type of stuff.

I try to do different stuff in this city that some don't even thing about here. I had a great weekend with the wife...we went to a tattoo thing on Friday, and Battle of the bands on Saturday. 

 

 

Certainly more of a racial element here. Atlanta was the same way when I lived there.

Big cities...people are just people. I don't care that you are this or that, as long as you are cool and intelligent.

Small cities are much more limited as far as the way the locals look at it.

It is a growing city and is much better than when I moved here though.

 

I went to a lounge type of bar/club a few months ago...big cities...they are all over. Down here...not really.

It's either a dance club or a dive type of bar.

I really like this place called  Crave though. Hookah lounge and great drinks, service, food. We've been going there for a few years here and there.

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Well for one, ...

 

I lived in Greeley for almost ten years and I wanna say the population was about 40% Hispanic. But yeah foothill and mountain towns are super white. What cars are people driving there now? It was Volvo and Subaru wagons in the 2000s. I'll respectfully disagree with you on the people dress/look the same, no culture, no flavor,  and people being from all types of different places. Obviously though nowhere near like major East Coast cities. I mean DC and NYC have people from all parts of the globe. But out of all the friends I had in Colorado nobody was from there. They were mostly from the East Coast, Mid West and South. I must have known 7 or 8 people including myself who were from Alabama.

 

 

Two...

Weed and Crystal Meth were pretty much everywhere. Cocaine though was, and I'm sure still is, quite common in the resort towns. I'm sure it's insanely ridiculous now.

 

 

Three...

Yep the air is completely different and I miss it this time of year. Humidity really really really sucks. 

 

Four...

 

Your probably right. I lived in NoVa for about six years and Va Beach for four. And yeah all the outdoor stuff is all right there in Co just like in Va. 

 

 

Hopefully any of this makes sense. Thanks for letting me vent.

 

Makes sense to me having lived in six states and eight different cities. As well as being lucky enough to travel to all but five states. 

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I like Denver and Colorado in general but won't move. Mainly the politics is what turns me away. It seems like all the people who fled Southern Cali because of the taxes and laws moved to CO and started instituting the same policies they just left.

Personally, I want to move to Northern New Mexico for a few years. Then move back to NoVA when my kids are in 3rd grade or higher.

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As far as it being all whitems around here, if I remember correctly, you guys live in the Highlands, right? That's one of the nicest, trendiest neighbors in the Denver metro. Only white people can afford to live there lol.

If you go east towards Aurora, it's black. Really black, like how PG county used to be lol. West side is heavy Hispanic. Really hispanic. Like Langley Park hispanic. Pretty big eastern European presence up north. Asians and Native Americans sprinkled in all over the place.

Far as the difference in the air, it is probably lack of humidity. Typical DC summer day in June, it's 90 degrees, 70% humidity. Here it's 90 degrees, 15% humidity lol.

As far as culture, Denver is a mixing bowl just like DC. big transplant city. Lots of DC people (large federal govt presence), a lot of mid west..chicago, Wisco, Detroit. And a **** load of people from Southern California and texas.

Hang in there, man. Hopefully it'll get better for you. We love it here.

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My sister lived in Fort Collins.  I've enjoyed visiting her, I like the clean feel to the mountain air, visiting interesting little places like Estes Park, hiking, being outdoors, it's a definite different feel than Nova.  But it's not a long term solution for me, I like the hustle and bustle of this area.

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I like Denver and Colorado in general but won't move. Mainly the politics is what turns me away. It seems like all the people who fled Southern Cali because of the taxes and laws moved to CO and started instituting the same policies they just left.

Personally, I want to move to Northern New Mexico for a few years. Then move back to NoVA when my kids are in 3rd grade or higher.

Californians and their money have ruined much of the west. My dads family is from Telluride CO, my dad was born there and the house my great grandfather built is still standing. These were hard people, tougher than the land that they tried to eek a living out on

Telluride and many other Colorado cities have today been over run by California money. They lost their identity and are now just small California towns

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