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      So, last week I went through the Falcons game and came up with a few players I thought were intriguing to keep our eyes on as we moved forward through the preseason (with a ton of video to boot, probably too much as that page is/was a bummer to load ); either because they had disappointing outings and we hoped to see improvements from them, or because they looked surprisingly good and we hoped to see the continuation of that level of play. I intentionally focused on players who weren't being talked about a whole lot that week so as to avoid any media redundancy.   
      The disappointments I honed in on against the Falcons were Stephen Paea, Arie Kuandjio and Niles Paul. The impressive performances came from Kendall Reyes, Anthony Lanier (before the rest of the world started noticing him), Carlos Fields, and a special guest appearance from Terrence Garvin.
       
      So how did these guys do against the Jets? And were there any other performances to add to the current list of Extremeskins Coverage intrigue? Let's find out, shall we (with a little less video for the sake of our browsers, mmkay)?     
       

      Stephen Paea, 90
       
      Watching the game in the pressbox at FedEx field, I made it a point to focus in on Paea with my cheap Walmart-purchased binoculars (hey, it was last minute, Spaceman Spiff said I'd probably need them) when he came into the game. From what I saw, he was much improved, however, we must keep in mind that he came in about five minutes into the 2nd half, which means he was playing against lesser talent (and may further indicate a demotion on the depth chart). That being said, last week against the Falcons, he seemed to be moving in slow motion and the only positive he showed really was with his arm strength.
      Against the Jets, however, it was a different story. He moved very well and was a lot more explosive off the snap, to say the least. Let's take a look at a couple of examples.
       
      Here, he's lined up at RDE and you can see him move laterally well while penetrating, putting himself in the perfect position to make the tackle: 

       
      Here, again at RDE, he shows good lateral quickness another time by cutting to his left to find the open lane to the QB, then he puts on the jets to get the sack:

       
      Suffice to say, much better from Stephen Paea. 
       
       

          Arie Kuandjio, 74
       
      Unfortunately, the same can't be said about Arie Kuandjio, who continued to disappoint. Most of his plays aren't necessarily a negative, but they're plays where he can't be considered as having had a positive impact. He often is either out of position or generally not involved when he otherwise should be. But then there's bad as well. 
      Here, at LG, his guy gets underneath and is able to push him back, who then winds up making the tackle on Keith Marshall:

       
      Here, again at LG, is the play I believe John Keim was talking about a couple days ago when he mentioned Kuandjio getting pushed to the ground: 

       
       
      Yeah, let's hope we get a better showing from him against the Bills. 
       
       
        Niles Paul, 84 
          
      Good news for Niles, though, he definitely looked better overall. He did whiff on his first play, but then seemed to make up for it with better blocking in general. Let's take a look.
      Here, lined up at FB and motioned to the left, is the aforementioned whiff:  

       
      Here, lined up on the outside to the left at TE, you'll see him get a solid block on #21 of the Jets and maintain it throughout the play:

       
      Here, lined up as the outside TE on the right side, you'll see him execute a perfect block: 
       

       
      Overall, a better showing from Niles Paul. 
       

      Kendall Reyes, 97
       
      Kendall Reyes continued to impress for the most part. Nothing spectacular, just solid, and I get the sense that we'll be hearing that a lot when it comes to his play throughout the season.
       
      Here, at RDE, he gets some decent pressure on the QB and flushes him outside of the pocket:

       

      Anthony Lanier II, 72 
       
      By far, the most interesting aspect of Lanier's game was how much earlier he was put into the rotation than in the Falcons game, which may indicate he's moving up the depth chart a little. I asked him about it after the game and he seemed to agree. As for his performance, it wasn't as enjoyable to watch as the film against the Falcons (that's not to say he played poorly or regressed, just nothing splashy), but he certainly had his moments. Here are a few examples. 
       
       Here, at RDE, he gets quick interior penetration: 

       
      Here, lined up at LDE, he gets a near sack after beating #64 of the Jets handedly (gotta love the way he lays out there):

       
       
      Here, lined up at RDE, of course is his end of game sack. This one's all about his hustle and awareness: 

       
       
       

         Terrence Garvin, 52
       
      All Garvin has done these past two games is make plays, so I'm putting him here instead of Fields. Last week against the Falcons, he was in on a bunch of plays along with Fields and Lanier, so I didn't give him his own spot and just mentioned his play secondarily. I don't know if it's the weaker competition or not, but he's really impressive out there. Let's take a look at some of the plays he made against the Jets. 
       
      Here, lined up on the right side at ILB, you have to love his back pedal and then quick reaction to break up the pass: 

       
      Here, again lined up on the right side at ILB, he shows his speed as he slices his way through to apply quick pressure on the QB, causing the incompletion: 

       
      He was also in on a fumble recovery (right place, right time, so no need for a video really), but it just shows his hustle. He's really flying around out there and is fun to watch. 
       
      Well, that does it for now. We'll see how these guys look on Friday against the Bills as well as their spots in the rotation. Will they improve, stay the same or regress? Will we see them higher on the depth chart, the same, or lower? I might do a part 2 of this if I have the time and add some others to the list. Hope you all enjoyed it, see you around on the board!

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Patriots accused of cheating.... ( again )...

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What has this franchise ever won which hasn't been tainted by cheating?   All three of their superbowls were the product of cheating, and the NFL let them keep the victories and only penalized them with money and draft pick forfites...   Now everytime they get caught cheating again the NFL must relive their own culpability in this franchises dishonesty.

 

and now they are at it again.

 

 

Texans Allege ‘Fishy’ Adjustments By The Patriots

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/12/01/texans-allege-fishy-adjustments-by-the-patriots/

 

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No real evidence other than a player certain Brady couldn't have deciphered their new D without cheating.

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Who cares if they spy?  Why does that constitute as cheating?  I wish the redskins would do it.  We have too many nice players on this team.  I want thugs on my team who are willing to go the extra mile to win

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Who cares if they spy?  Why does that constitute as cheating?  I wish the redskins would do it.  We have too many nice players on this team.  I want thugs on my team who are willing to go the extra mile to win

That's a novel defense.   Yeah they cheat.... who cares...

 

why does videotaping your oponents closed practices on the eve of the superbowl constitute cheating?   Why does dumpster diving their players to find their playbooks?    Because it's against the rules and gives your team an unfair advantage based upon their willingness ot break the rules....

 

Basically the NFL is fun to watch if it's an athletic contest between two contestants who both have  achance to win.   If it devolves into who can surveil the other team the best off the field;  then it hurts the sport.

 

 

Belichick draws $500,000 fine, but avoids suspension

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3018338

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No real evidence other than a player certain Brady couldn't have deciphered their new D without cheating.

 

 

Yes no real evidence,  except the fact they've already been found guilty of cheating in 3 superbowls,   and continued to cheat after the NFL found them guilty,   and now this with several players making these new accusations.

 

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Wait just a minute, folks -- Harbaugh's right, Pats' titles ARE tainted

 

Of course the Patriots' Super Bowl titles are tainted. We're not really having this discussion, are we? I mean, this isn't a point worthy of debate.

Is it?

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/18935926

 

 

 

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Spygate was 6 years ago and they went 18-0 that season before Eli's miracle in Arizona.  They are not cheating, Houston sucks.  They are the only team that may be worse than the Redskins.

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Sooo . . . dozens of players have left New England as free agents. Handfull of coordinators and assistants moved onto other teams. So the Patriots cheating is so rampant that even their old players won't blow the whistle on them?

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Spygate was 6 years ago and they went 18-0 that season before Eli's miracle in Arizona.  They are not cheating, Houston sucks.  They are the only team that may be worse than the Redskins.

 

 

They are convicted cheaters,  who benifited greatly from cheating...  and you think they aren't cheating anylonger even when faced with various reports saying they are...

Sooo . . . dozens of players have left New England as free agents. Handfull of coordinators and assistants moved onto other teams. So the Patriots cheating is so rampant that even their old players won't blow the whistle on them?

 

Which is a great point if their franchise hadn't admitted they cheated.   A great point of we didn't already know there was a coverup where the whistleblowers were silenced by legal means, where all the evidence against them was destroyed, and where the entire scandal was swept under the rug.    Which is the real problem,  when you conspire to excuse cheating you will and should be roasted over the spit every time the report surfaces when the cheaters are reported to have returned to the malfeasense which lead to their success..

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I assume the same scrutiny is being applied to the '72 Dolphins, who only snagged their head coach (ferchrissakes) by deliberately breaking the NFL's tampering rules regarding signing. They got caught too.

 

Opinions?  Hopefully we won't see any arbitrary lines being drawn in here between the Patriots' brand of lose-a-first-round-draft-pick cheating and the Dolphins' brand of lose-a-first-round-draft-pick cheating.

 

Just keeping us honest... I say it's cheating in both cases, and there has never been a legit "perfect" regular season or total season in the post-merger NFL.  Also, there must be something in the water with the AFC East.  ;)

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LOL, this article is funny.  The Texans are similar to the Redskins, get over it, you guys suck too.  I think the Giants cheated yesterday, Eli didn't throw 4 picks like he normally does so something is fishy.  It's still amazing that people still cry about the "spygate" era.  Yet the Patriots have gone through so many players, several cordinators, get watched like hawks, but still manage to make the playoffs every single year?  Sometimes I wish Mike Shannahan would take page out of Pete Caroll's book and give some of our late round picks PED's and see what they can do.  If they get suspended who cares....

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I think it's fairly ironic that we have fans of this team who decry the penalties for dumping salary in an uncapped year and also berate the Patriots for cheating.

We cheated in the uncapped year. The Patriots cheated when they spied. Dozens and dozens of players cheat every single game by holding, jumping off sides, interfering and hitting illegally.

Sometimes you get caught, sometimes you don't. Nobody in the league is a saint. It's all to get an advantage over the competition.

You don't have to be such a sorry sport about it.

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They are convicted cheaters,  who benifited greatly from cheating...  and you think they aren't cheating anylonger even when faced with various reports saying they are...

 

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Let me get this straight......a guy on a very bad Houston team says that he is suspicious of adjustments made by the pats and that constitutes a report that says they cheated?

Keep in mind, if this is true, the pats played it close to the vest by not utilizing their illegitimate knowledge of the Houston d the entire first half.

Halftime adjustments.....good teams make the,, BAD teams do not

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They are convicted cheaters,  who benifited greatly from cheating...  and you think they aren't cheating anylonger even when faced with various reports saying they are...

 

Which is a great point if their franchise hadn't admitted they cheated.   A great point of we didn't already know there was a coverup where the whistleblowers were silenced by legal means, where all the evidence against them was destroyed, and where the entire scandal was swept under the rug.    Which is the real problem,  when you conspire to excuse cheating you will and should be roasted over the spit every time the report surfaces when the cheaters are reported to have returned to the malfeasense which lead to their success..

 

Do you know what a report is?

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Let me get this straight......a guy on a very bad Houston team says that he is suspicious of adjustments made by the pats and that constitutes a report that says they cheated?

Keep in mind, if this is true, the pats played it close to the vest by not utilizing their illegitimate knowledge of the Houston d the entire first half.

Halftime adjustments.....good teams make the,, BAD teams do not

 

Exactly. They must have used the video from the previous week in the first half, then found the tape from this week's practice at halftime. Seriously, what have Redskins fans been whining about all season? How the Redskins don't make halftime adjustments and end up playing like dookie in the 2nd half and losing. This is what good teams do. They see things in the first half, then adjust as the game goes on. Sometimes, they can't adjust until half time. Then it's a different second half game.

 

Oh wait, it just hit me. I bet Smith saw Brady and Belichick looking at pictures on the sideline during the game. How did they get those pictures of the game that quickly? It's not fair they have pictures of plays that show what the other team is doing. No wonder they could adjust. They were cheating by looking at those pictures DURING the game.

 

If only the Texans had thought of that. Maybe all teams in the league should do that. What a great idea that would be.

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The Eagles are cheating this year too.  RG3 said the defense knew everything he and the offense hit them with?  That's fishy IMO.  Ok sarcasm is over.

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I think it's fairly ironic that we have fans of this team who decry the penalties for dumping salary in an uncapped year and also berate the Patriots for cheating.

We cheated in the uncapped year. The Patriots cheated when they spied. Dozens and dozens of players cheat every single game by holding, jumping off sides, interfering and hitting illegally.

Sometimes you get caught, sometimes you don't. Nobody in the league is a saint. It's all to get an advantage over the competition.

You don't have to be such a sorry sport about it.

We didn't cheat the Patriots did. We did nothing against the rules, the Patriots did.

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We didn't cheat the Patriots did. We did nothing against the rules, the Patriots did.

The NFL doesn't just arbitrarily take 36 million in cap money from teams.

We cheated.

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Even Chris Collinsworth said it during the game Sunday..."how you violate the cap in an uncapped year, somebody's still gotta explain that to me"...as close to a direct quote as I can get.

We didn't cheat. Mara was jealous because he didn't think to frontload contracts.

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The NFL doesn't just arbitrarily take 36 million in cap money from teams.

We cheated.

You are so wrong.

 

If this were true, then every team who accelerated money into the uncapped year would have been penalized. They weren't. Only Washington & Dallas were penalized by a group led by the owner of the NYGonads. Notice any connection?

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The NFL doesn't just arbitrarily take 36 million in cap money from teams.

We cheated.

 

 

The NFL admits the Redskins broke no rules. I agree that the league didn't arbitrarily take $36 million from us, but it's not because we 'cheated.'

 

I don't know about the Patriots this time around. The problem here isn't what they did or didn't do this past week. The problem is that the league is so corrupt and inconsistent and exhibits such blatant favoritism that the Patriots could very well have cheated and it won't make a damn bit of difference. And yeah, that's a bad thing. Listen to half of you: "I don't care if we cheat. We should be cheating so that WE can win!" 

 

That's what this league has turned into. It's almost unwatchable at this point.

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You are so wrong.

If this were true, then every team who accelerated money into the uncapped year would have been penalized. They weren't. Only Washington & Dallas were penalized by a group led by the owner of the NYGonads. Notice any connection?

And we appealed, and still lost. If "cheated" is too strong a word, then we violated the spirit of the cap. We need to move on. It's not like constantly whining about it is going to change anything. And knowing this team, they probably would have overpaid for some bums the way they did McNabb and Haynesworth, anyway. Besides, we won the division without the extra cap money.

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