DM72 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I know a lot of people will probably say Stephen A doesn't know what he's talking about, but I doubt that he'll sit there and lie on national TV. According to him, his source also said that Dan Snyder was behind the RGIII pick. I, myself had said that I don't believe Shanahan ever truly wanted RGIII and I was told that I was totally clueless among other things. We will NEVER move forward with Shanahan as our head coach. Star QB and headcoach simply don't get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Oh my god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I've heard this a few times and I think it's overblown. Sure maybe he liked Tannehill and vouched for him but I doubt he was literally forced to take Rob. Shanahan had proven that he does what he wants here (I.e. The humiliations of McNabb and Haynesworth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Right. Â Shanahan the GM, with all final say so on who the team aqcuires, is going to be overridden by Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Link? Make the bad threads go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Right. Â Shanahan the GM, with all final say so on who the team aqcuires, is going to be overridden by Snyder He can be the GM all he wants, but the owner will always have the final say if he chooses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraunMan92 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 If this is true, it explains why Shanahan is a lame-duck coach with his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Link? Make the bad threads go away. It was just on First Take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I know a lot of people will probably say Stephen A doesn't know what he's talking about, but I doubt that he'll sit there and lie on national TV. According to him, his source also said that Dan Snyder was behind the RGIII pick. I, myself had said that I don't believe Shanahan ever truly wanted RGIII and I was told that I was totally clueless among other things. We will NEVER move forward with Shanahan as our head coach. Star QB and headcoach simply don't get along. Â Â Yes he would. He is a media whore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 When it comes to organizational dysfunction, it is hard to doubt anything with this team. I don't believe this, but I wouldn't surprised if it were true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 This actually sounds like a Shanahan draft strategy and it might have been a smart one depending on what other players he'd drafted in that scenario. I don't begrudge him that strategy because he's been very savvy in the draft for us so far. Â However, I think once our cap penalty is lifted and Griffin is healthy again, we'll all be glad it went the way it went. We should have been this bad last season but RG3 was SO good, our problems were masked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I know a lot of people will probably say Stephen A doesn't know what he's talking about, but I doubt that he'll sit there and lie on national TV. According to him, his source also said that Dan Snyder was behind the RGIII pick. I, myself had said that I don't believe Shanahan ever truly wanted RGIII and I was told that I was totally clueless among other things. We will NEVER move forward with Shanahan as our head coach. Star QB and headcoach simply don't get along.  You're totally clueless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I've heard this a few times and I think it's overblown. Sure maybe he liked Tannehill and vouched for him but I doubt he was literally forced to take Rob. Shanahan had proven that he does what he wants here (I.e. The humiliations of McNabb and Haynesworth) Â I would agree. Â Not just forced to draft him, but forced to leverage the future to move up to get him. Â I would something like that would seriously damage the relationship. Â Particularly under the circumstances with which Shanahan agreed to come here. Â Now, having said all that. Â I don't think it matters what he wanted then, RG3 set the league on fire last year and Tannehill was just ok, I'm sure Shanahan was fine with the pick. Â It's just that knee injury messed up the whole deal. Â Â But part of me does still think that Snyder influenced Haynesworth staying around as long as he did. Â Not outrighted ordered Shanahan to do it, but Snyder probably wanted to salvage that investment and made that known and Shanahan probably thought he could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 There's no need to insult the Op. I've heard this theory a lot but I think it's just overblown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 He can be the GM all he wants, but the owner will always have the final say if he chooses. Â Nah... I'm not buying it. At all. Â I'm not buying that, after Mike put ink to paper in 2010, and they agreed on the parameters/details/duties, that Snyder would turn around and buck that (a year removed from the Haynesworth BS, and the McNabbb disaster), without Shanahan's approval, undermining his coaching staff, and FO. Â Just because Screamin A Smith, or Bayless says it doesn't mean that it's Gospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'll ask it again. What other coach draft a QB with the number 2 pick and then draft another in the 4th when you have a ton of holes to fill? Cousin was obviously a compromise between Shanahan and the people who wanted RGIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 There's no need to insult the Op. I've heard this theory a lot but I think it's just overblown  Sorry, Stephen A. Smith carries as much credibility with me as Donovan McNabb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 This is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 If you're going to trade away multiple 1st rd picks for a player then I'm sure Snyder was heavily involved in the decision. I don't think it means RGIII was forced on Mike. But not surprised if he favored Tannahill, who's skill set is close to Cutler's, and then keeps those picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'll ask it again. What other coach draft a QB with the number 2 pick and then draft another in the 4th when you have a ton of holes to fill? Cousin was obviously a compromise between Shanahan and the people who wanted RGIII. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 There's no need to insult the Op. I've heard this theory a lot but I think it's just overblown LOL. It's all good. Most don't like to hear anything they don't believe or agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I can't even imagine this team with Tannehill at QB. One extra 1st and 2nd aren't going to fix that especially not the way this regime drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mursilis Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Like a lot of people in this thread, I always understood that Shanahan had final say in all football-related matters on this team. If a player was/wasn't drafted by the Redskins, that was Shanahan's call, not Snyder, so I'm NOT believing this story. Still, I've also read some things about the devious side of Shanahan - I remember one former Denver player saying Shanahan benched him once very early in a late season game because the player was close to hitting a performance bonus clause in his contract. Can't remember the player though. Anyway, I'm wondering if someone close to Shanahan is floating this rumor to set the groundwork for Snyder to take the blame if RG3 doesn't become elite. Sure, RG3 isn't looking like a JaMarcus Russell-level bust by any measure, but he's also not looking like the kind of player you give up the highest draft price ever for, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 So Shanhan, who had all sorts of leverage after year 2 (with 3 years, 15M left on his contract being his leverage) was forced to make the move?  Ha. Don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'll ask it again. What other coach draft a QB with the number 2 pick and then draft another in the 4th when you have a ton of holes to fill? Cousin was obviously a compromise between Shanahan and the people who wanted RGIII.  No. He was the best player on their board.  Take off the tin foil hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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