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#1 DC9

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:34 PM

GREETINGS:

RULES:  As always, this thread is only as successful as you guys make it.  Participation is always deeply appreciated and makes this much more fun.  When you see a tweet or a story in reference to signings or rumors, please post the source and I’ll update it here in the OP.  If you just post “We traded for Larry Fitzgerald,“ that’s just going to tick a bunch of people off.  So please post a tweet or at least post where you heard it so myself or another member can go look for it.  And “No Stairway to Heaven”.

2014 Free Agents (21 total FAs - Starters are in red):

Defense (15 FA/5 starters):

London Fletcher, ILB - 38 years old (Retired)
Brian Orakpo, OLB - 27 years old

Chris Baker, NT/DE - 26 years old
Nick Barnett, ILB - 32 years old
EJ Biggers, CB/S - 26 years old
Reed Doughty, S - 31 years old
Jose Gumbs, S - 25 years old
DeAngelo Hall, CB - 29 years old

Rob Jackson, OLB/Playmaker - 28 years old
Bryan Kehl, ILB - 29 years old
Jerome Murphy, CB - 26 years old
Perry Riley, ILB - 25 years old
*Darryl Tapp, OLB - 29 years old - Signed with Lions*
*Josh Wilson, CB - 28 years old - Signed with Falcons*

Doug Worthington, DE - 26 years old

Offense (6 FA):
Dezmon Briscoe, WR - 24 years old
Fred Davis, TE - 27 years old
Rex Grossman, QB - 33 years old
Josh Morgan, WR - 28 years old
Santana Moss, WR - 34 years old
Aldrick Robinson, WR - 25 years old



Key Dates:

http://espn.go.com/n...4-nfl-key-dates

18-25 February 2014 - NFL Scouting Combine
11 March 2014 - New league year starts, free agency begins
23-26 March 2014 - Owners meeting (Orlando, FL)
8-10 May 2014 - NFL draft, Radio City Music Hall, NYC

 

 

SIGNED

 

-Futures-

 

signed 31 December 2013

Robert Malone - Punter - Fresno State  - 6-1 - 215lbs - 25 years old

Ryan Mouton - Cornerback - Hawaii - 5-9 - 184lbs - 27 years old

Peyton Thompson - Cornerback - San Jose State - 5-11 - 183lbs - 23 years old

Tevita Stevens - Guard/Center - Utah - 6-1 - 306lbs - 26 years old

Gabe Miller - Tight End/Outside Linebacker - Oregon State - 6-3 - 257lbs - 26 years old

David Gettis - Wide Reciever - Baylor - 6-3 - 220lbs - 26 years old

Kevin Kowalski - C/G - Toledo - 6-3 - 298lbs - 25 years old

 

signed 22 January 2014

Jerome Murphy - CB - South Florida - 6-0 - 200lbs - 27 years old

 

-Re-Signed-

 

signed 6 February 2014

Aldrick Robinson - WR - SMU - 25 years old

 

signed 7 February 2014

Doug Worthington - DE - Ohio State - 26 years old

 

signed 18 February 2014

DeAngelo Hall - CB - Va Tech - 30 years old

 

signed 27 February 2014

Chris Baker - NT/DE - Hampton/Penn State - 26 years old

 

signed 3 March 2014

Jose Gumbs - FS/SS - Monmouth - 25 years old

 

Franchise Tagged 3 March 2014

Brian Orakpo - OLB - Texas - 27 years old

 

signed 10 March 2014 (to be announced 11 March 2014)

Perry Riley - ILB - LSU - 25 years old

 

signed 11 March 2014

Santana Moss - WR - The U - 34 years old

 

signed 17 March 2014

Brandon Meriweather - S - The U - 30 years old

 

signed 27 March 2014

EJ Biggers - CB - Western Michigan - 26 years old

 

signed 4 April 2014

Rob Jackson - OLB/Playmaker - Kansas State - 28 years old

 

-New Signings-

 

11 March 2014

1.  Andre Roberts - WR - The Citadel - 5'11" - 190lbs - 26 years old - Arizona Cardinals

2.  Shawn Lauvao - G - Arizona State - 6'3" - 315lbs -  26 years old - Cleveland Browns

3.  Adam Hayward - LB - Portland State - 6'1" - 240lbs - 29 years old - Tampa Bay Bucs

 

12 March 2014

Bruce Campbell - OT - Maryland - 6'6" - 320lbs - 25 years old - Oakland Raiders ***on hold/unofficial/per Mike Jones - Issues w/ physical but still a possibility***

 

13 Mar 2014

4.  Tracy Porter - CB - Indiana - 5'11" - 188lbs - 27 years old - Denver Broncos 

5.  Darryl Sharpton - ILB - The U - 5'11" - 230lbs - 26 years old - Houston Texans

6.  Cliffton Geathers - DE - South Carolina - 6'8" - 340lbs - Philidelphia Eagles

7.  Jason Hatcher - DT/DE - Grambling - 6'6" - 298lbs - Dallas Cowboys

 

14 Mar 2014

8.  Jake Rogers - Kicker/Punter - Cincinatti - 6'2" - 213lbs - 26 years old - Yes

 

19 Mar 2014

9.  Akeem Jordan - ILB - JMU - 6'1" - 230lbs - 28 years old - KC Chiefs

 

24 Mar 2014 (claimed off of waivers)

10.  Brandon Moore - DL - Bama/Texas - 6'5" - 320lbs - 23 years old - KC Chiefs

 

28 Mar 2014

11.  Mike McGlynn - Interior OL - 6'4" - 325lbs - 29 years old - Indianapolis Colts

 

31 Mar 2014

12.  Ryan Clark - Free Safety - 5'11" - 205lbs - 34 years old - Pittsburgh Steelers

 

1 Apr 2014

13.  DeSean Jackson - WR - 5'11" - 175lbs - 26 years old - Philadelphia Eagles

 

3 Apr 2014

14. Colt McCoy - QB - 6'2" - 220lbs - 27 years old - Cleveland Browns/San Fran 49ers  

 

8 Apr 2014

15. Blake Clingan - P - 6'3" - 233lbs - 25 years old - Detroit Lions

 

10 Apr 2014

16.  Akeem Davis - S - 6'0" - 201lbs - 24 years old - UDFA 2013/Seahawks

 

5 May 2014

17.  Tanard Jackson - S - 6'0" - 220lbs - 28 years old - Re-instated from suspension - Redskins - RELEASED on 6 May

- RE-SIGNED on 7 May (so yes, he's on the team... as I live and breathe)

 

CUTS

 

Released 4 March 2014

-Adam Carriker - DE

-Sav Rocca - P

-Richard Quinn - TE 

-Davin Meggett - RB 

-Jawan Jamison - RB

 

Released 14 March 2014

-Will Montgomery - C

 

Released 5 April 2014

-Josh Hull - ILB

-Ryan Mouton - CB

-Josh Bellamy - WR

 

Released 6 May 2014

- Tanard Jackson - S


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:37 PM

Don't care how but my main target is Fitz.
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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:38 PM

Here is a link to a listing of all available slotted free agents (pending Cuts and Resigns)

 

http://www.kffl.com/...ption=QB&y=2014

 

My Top of the list players

1) Ryan Harris OT Houston. Watching 74 every snap get beat is just awful

2) Eric Winston OT Arizona. Same as above

3) Aqib Talib DB. Lets Deangelo play in the slot where I feel he would be best

4) Paul Soliai NT. If we are keeping the 3-4 (which I think we should. Different thread) then we need a true NT

5) 


Edited by Cyclops, 17 November 2013 - 04:44 PM.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:38 PM

First....



#5 Skinzfever2010

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:39 PM

Don't care how but my main target is Fitz.

 

I care TK (and deep down you do too) we can't throw the house at him. I def would love to see him here but we have so many other holes. Who do you think will be in your avi next year?


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:45 PM

Well let's see. 

 

On offense, we have 4, maybe 5 guys of a top tier standard. Trent, Pierre, The Butler, the developing Reed, and the QB in the right circumstance. (DY as a FB too if you want to count him.). 

 

On defense, we have Hall and Kerrigan when fully healthy. 

 

Last season's run-in masked a ton and fooled us all. 

 

Hail. 


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:49 PM

Hopefully, 6 months from now, this won't turn into another "the Redskins love to win the offseason" discussions.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:05 PM

 

My Top of the list players

1) Ryan Harris OT Houston. Watching 74 every snap get beat is just awful

2) Eric Winston OT Arizona. Same as above

3) Aqib Talib DB. Lets Deangelo play in the slot where I feel he would be best

4) Paul Soliai NT. If we are keeping the 3-4 (which I think we should. Different thread) then we need a true NT

5) 

 

I'll bite on Talib, though I don't think he makes it out of New England.

 

We've had about 4 different shots at Ryan Harris and we've obviously not liked him, though.  Same with Winston, if Kubiak didn't re-sign him then Shanny isn't going to sign him (they have that bro-code thing going).

 

So if Shanny is still the coach, I wouldn't bet on either of these two to be targeted.

 

Soilai is going to be a bit past his prime for where we will need to be next year, too.  We'll see what the new Defensive Coordinator likes, though.  I'd like someone more like a Linval Joseph, type.


Well let's see. 

 

On offense, we have 4, maybe 5 guys of a top tier standard. Trent, Pierre, The Butler, the developing Reed, and the QB in the right circumstance. (DY as a FB too if you want to count him.). 

 

On defense, we have Hall and Kerrigan when fully healthy. 

 

Last season's run-in masked a ton and fooled us all. 

 

Hail. 

 

For me, we need to secure the middle of the defense.  The best way to do that would be through the draft for ILB and through FA for FS.

 

NT, it depends on what's available.

 

For me, we need another WR threat opposite Garcon and some linemen.  We'll start with RT, but we need to address some of the interior stuff.

 

Maybe it's in house already, but at the minimum RG needs to be pushed and we might have to look at Center, too.  I'm hoping we can see some of these kids over the next few games.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:06 PM

21 of our own FA's in the OP. ONE true starter among them if we're brutally honest. DHall. 

 

The lack of top talent on this team 4 years in is staggering. 

 

Hail. 


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:08 PM

Anyone have a comprehensive list of free agents from other teams?

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:08 PM

Not really looking to rebuild this thing via FA.

 

Only 2 places I would invest and that would be at C and RT to solidify the o-line.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:12 PM

21 of our own FA's in the OP. ONE true starter among them if we're brutally honest. DHall. 

 

The lack of top talent on this team 4 years in is staggering. 

 

Hail. 

 

Totally agree.  And he needs to be back for the right money.

 

Amerson and Hall with proper safeties will be fun to watch.


Anyone have a comprehensive list of free agents from other teams?

 

KFFL link is in the OP.  The OP will will have all of your needs, my brother.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:14 PM

Half the defense needs resigned or replaced.  I doesn't make any sense to use up cap space to maintain what we have defensively and we certainly can't fill all those holes with with premium priced Free Agents. 

 

http://overthecap.com/ is a good place to see who may be available and get a ballpark idea on contracts.  It looks to me like there is more talent available defensively.  Which is good.  I kind of feel our hand is forced.  We have to focus on defense. 

 

Offensively I'm not real exited about the WR group.  I would love Alex Mack to solidify the interior OL.  But It doesn't seem to fit Shanny philosophy to spend $6 plus million on a center. Assuming he is still here, especially with all the defensive problems.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:18 PM

Part of me is waiting for some other BS like Violating The Spirit Of Breathing Oxygen before it's time to go shopping.

 

Anyway, I think if the Shanny's stay, and maintain their current structure offense wise, then they better find some defense, so we don't get caught sucking our thumbs and  picking our asses, down by 14+ points every Sunday


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:25 PM

Orakpo/Jackson will come down to two factors, in this order:

 

1) Coaching Staff

2) Money

 

Scheme will be a primary motivator on if we re-sign either, both or neither. Both are very good football players, and both are starter quality.

 

I can't really say much in regards to what I would do, as I don't know where we'll be coaching wise. We may VERY well be hitting the reset button on at least one side of the ball, perhaps two, maybe even all three.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:27 PM

Not really looking to rebuild this thing via FA.

 

Only 2 places I would invest and that would be at C and RT to solidify the o-line.

 

I think the whole team can get turned around with a rebuilt OL. I mean, not that they don't need rebuilding elsewhere, but the domino effect of a new OL is far reaching for this squad.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:28 PM

Excellent thread, DC9!  Thanks for putting this together.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:42 PM

Half the defense needs resigned or replaced.  I doesn't make any sense to use up cap space to maintain what we have defensively and we certainly can't fill all those holes with with premium priced Free Agents. 

 

http://overthecap.com/ is a good place to see who may be available and get a ballpark idea on contracts.  It looks to me like there is more talent available defensively.  Which is good.  I kind of feel our hand is forced.  We have to focus on defense. 

 

Offensively I'm not real exited about the WR group.  I would love Alex Mack to solidify the interior OL.  But It doesn't seem to fit Shanny philosophy to spend $6 plus million on a center. Assuming he is still here, especially with all the defensive problems.

 

To protect our investment in RG3 I think would be extremely wise.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:51 PM

WOW!!!!! I just checked! We could possibly get Larry!! WOW!!! We have the cap room too!!! O YES!!!



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:56 PM

WOW!!!!! I just checked! We could possibly get Larry!! WOW!!! We have the cap room too!!! O YES!!!


Larry is not a FA. we'd have to trade for him or he'd have to be cut.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 05:57 PM

I would argue that we need a #1 receiver, and that Garcon would be a great #2.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:10 PM

Larry is not a FA. we'd have to trade for him or he'd have to be cut.

 

Exactly my point. I said possibility, and it's a very likely one too. The Cardinals are losing games just like the Redskins, and they're trying to build a team, hold on to good playver, and to keep Fitz at that price is crazy. My fingers are crossed.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:16 PM

Exactly my point. I said possibility, and it's a very likely one too. The Cardinals are losing games just like the Redskins, and they're trying to build a team, hold on to good playver, and to keep Fitz at that price is crazy. My fingers are crossed.

So we, as a rebuilding team as well, pay the same price and it isn't crazy? :huh:


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:23 PM

Rebuilding in this league doesn't go over well for Redskins fanbase. The league has changed to a win now, the redskins front office have to draft correctly, and spend correctly. I'm sure a lot of us want a stud WR opposite of Garcon. The Redskins also have a franchise QB unlike the Arizona Cardinals who are stacked at WR. If the Cardinals let go Fitz I'm sure we have the money to sway him to us, plus signing other FA's, and drafting some good talent in the 2-4 round(Shanny has shown he can do this) that can contribute to this team.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:31 PM

Rebuilding in this league doesn't go over well for Redskins fanbase. The league has changed to a win now, the redskins front office have to draft correctly, and spend correctly. I'm sure a lot of us want a stud WR opposite of Garcon. The Redskins also have a franchise QB unlike the Arizona Cardinals who are stacked at WR. If the Cardinals let go Fitz I'm sure we have the money to sway him to us, plus signing other FA's, and drafting some good talent in the 2-4 round(Shanny has shown he can do this) that can contribute to this team.


Shanahan has shown he can draft well after the 2nd round? This is news to me. Other than his obligatory RB miracle in the 6th, Reed and maybe Cousins, what exactly are you referring to? We have four years worth of drafts to look back on--you're impressed?

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:33 PM

The Cardinals aren't likely to just let one of the best receivers in the league walk away without a fight. From what I know of Fitz, he wants to be a Cardinal, and will likely stay there. In my opinion, he's starting to decline, and since he's a Cardinal at heart, he won't raise it beyond their means.

 

In the meantime, if we're rebuilding and want a stud WR that can be to Griff what Megatron is to Stafford, I don't think we should focus on a 30 year old to be our future, especially if you think he wants megabucks that the Cardinals can't pay.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:35 PM

Defensive needs? Assuming we re-sign (minimum) Hall, Riley and Orakpo or Jackson - NT, DE, S, ILB and corner.

In house candidates (including our FAs): DE - Baker, Carriker. NT - Baker, Jenkins. S - Thomas, Rambo, Meriweather, Jackson (I know, I know). Corner - Crawford, Wilson, Biggers, Minnifield. ILB - Barnett, Robinson, Compton.


Offensive needs? O-line and WR.

In house candidates - WR - Hankerson, Robinson. O-line - Gettis, Compton, LeRibeus, Hurt.

Out of those I think I am least confident at NT, WR, safety and tackle.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:38 PM

Think on defense we're closer to fielding a good 4-3 than a good 3-4, with two good rush ends in Rak and Kerrigan. Riley could be a good MLB. Who are the OLBs though? Needs work.

Or if we're staying 3-4, needs include a stud NT to let Cofield slide over to DE, and we need a VERY solid ILB to line up beside Riley. Choose Kerrigan or Rak, not both. Sign Jackson for cheaper, he's better on coverage than either of them.

A FS is needed in either scenario, and please bring Merriweather back as a SS.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:40 PM

Shanahan has shown he can draft well after the 2nd round? This is news to me. Other than his obligatory RB miracle in the 6th, Reed and maybe Cousins, what exactly are you referring to? We have four years worth of drafts to look back on--you're impressed?

 

Yes I'm very confindent. RG3, Trent, Amerson, Morris, Helu, Kerrigan. I think you're just very upset at the record, but these guys are our core.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:40 PM

Merriweather can have his can kicked to the curb, and I predict that Tanard is a big fat nothing that we've been dreaming of because we're desperate.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:40 PM

This is the salary situation that would come along with Fitzgerald:

2014: $12.75 million, 2015: $8 million (+ $8 million roster bonus), 2016: $15 million, 2017-2018: $14.75 million, 2019: Free Agent

 

Plus, the cap space will need to accomodate both the salary to replace the player we trade and the cap hit involved in the trade.  The cap hit can be avoided by trading draft choices, but my guess is that it would take the #2 in 2014 and the #1 in 2015.  Otherwise, it needs to be a player with some years on his contract - Williams or Morris are about all there is to offer.  I wouldn't be cool with that.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:43 PM

On offense I'd go line-heavy. Don't worry about the huge targets at WR like Fitz... Try to sign a tier 2 guy that might be a little undervalued like Decker or maybe Hakeem Nicks due to injury and performance concerns. Then draft someone like Brandon Coleman, etc in the 2nd. That would leave us with 2 above average WRs as starters and a young stud to develop that wouldn't be forced to start early.

But we need help big time on the line. OG, RT, OG, C in that order are all positions that could use an upgrade.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:44 PM

The Cardinals aren't likely to just let one of the best receivers in the league walk away without a fight. From what I know of Fitz, he wants to be a Cardinal, and will likely stay there. In my opinion, he's starting to decline, and since he's a Cardinal at heart, he won't raise it beyond their means.

 

In the meantime, if we're rebuilding and want a stud WR that can be to Griff what Megatron is to Stafford, I don't think we should focus on a 30 year old to be our future, especially if you think he wants megabucks that the Cardinals can't pay.

They don't need to fight - he has a really nice contract with the Cards from his standpoint.  About $30M in the next two years.  See details in my post above.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:46 PM

They don't need to fight - he has a really nice contract with the Cards from his standpoint.  About $30M in the next two years.  See details in my post above.

Exactly. I didn't bother to look up the exact numbers, but my point is that the Cards will pay him just as well as we could, and to pay him more would be a bad choice.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:48 PM

Yes I'm very confindent. RG3, Trent, Amerson, Morris, Helu, Kerrigan. I think you're just very upset at the record, but these guys are our core.


4/6 guys you just named were our first pick in their respective drafts. The other two are RB's, which Shanahan has always had a rep of finding late in the draft. Hitting on our very highest picks every year, the ones we should hit on, is enough for you?

I'm not "just very upset at the record". Like any fan, I am very upset at the record. But that's not reason behind my issues with Shanahan the GM. If you search my posting history the last two months you'll find extensive conversations on this topic. This is not a knee-jerk reaction from today or even the past weeks. I've been pounding the drum for the "Shanahan can't draft" camp for awhile.
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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:59 PM

4/6 guys you just named were our first pick in their respective drafts. The other two are RB's, which Shanahan has always had a rep of finding late in the draft. Hitting on our very highest picks every year, the ones we should hit on, is enough for you?

I'm not "just very upset at the record". Like any fan, I am very upset at the record. But that's not reason behind my issues with Shanahan the GM. If you search my posting history the last two months you'll find extensive conversations on this topic. This is not a knee-jerk reaction from today or even the past weeks. I've been pounding the drum for the "Shanahan can't draft" camp for awhile.

 

Jordan Reed too. I believe Shanny hired the wrong DC, but I believe in Shanny. I think a lot of fans expected more improvement from last year 3-6 redskins even  though the Redskins had a cap penalty this year. I'm not suprised we regressed now that team have even more film on RG3. RG3 was our "it" factor last year, but the defense was always bad. I agree Shanny hasn't hit on everything, but that's with every team. Somtimes you hit or you miss, and no one knows until the player plays on the field.


They don't need to fight - he has a really nice contract with the Cards from his standpoint.  About $30M in the next two years.  See details in my post above.

 

I think your numbers are wrong. I believe he's schedule for 18 million, and if he's cut next year he gets 10 million.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:04 PM

Orakpo/Jackson will come down to two factors, in this order:

 

1) Coaching Staff

2) Money

 

Scheme will be a primary motivator on if we re-sign either, both or neither. Both are very good football players, and both are starter quality.

 

I can't really say much in regards to what I would do, as I don't know where we'll be coaching wise. We may VERY well be hitting the reset button on at least one side of the ball, perhaps two, maybe even all three.

 

Totally agree.

 

I think/hope we stay with a 3-4, but if it's Shaw I wouldn't be surprised to see a switch to the 4-3.

 

Who would you think we would pull in for NT if we stay 3-4 though?



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:08 PM

Aw yes, free agency with money to spend.  The solution for making rotten fish smell like roses.  Haven't we seen this movie before starring the likes of Deion Sanders, Jeff George and the like. 



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:09 PM

I want talented up and comers. More Pierre Garcons, say no to Larry Fitzgerald who's now 30+ and probably declining soon. That'd be a Vinny move.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:11 PM

Jordan Reed too. I believe Shanny hired the wrong DC, but I believe in Shanny. I think a lot of fans expected more improvement from last year 3-6 redskins even though the Redskins had a cap penalty this year. I'm not suprised we regressed now that team have even more film on RG3. RG3 was our "it" factor last year, but the defense was always bad. I agree Shanny hasn't hit on everything, but that's with every team. Somtimes you hit or you miss, and no one knows until the player plays on the field.


I think your numbers are wrong. I believe he's schedule for 18 million, and if he's cut next year he gets 10 million.


You're just repeating what I already allowed in the first post of mine that you responded to--his hits have been our highest draft picks, Morris, and Reed. Maybe Cousins. That's it.

That's not acceptable. Our OL is horrific, and Shanahan's entire philosophy is to acquire the athletic OL he needs in the mid-late rounds of the draft. Not a SINGLE one of our draft picks spent on the OL have panned out other than Trent. Not one. We're starting mediocre FA's across the board, with a C he inherited.

Our defense is horrific, and the only decent players he's drafted have been with our highest picks in their respective years--Kerrigan and Amerson. He's brought in nobody else of note on that entire side of the ball.

Our WR corps is awful. Hankerson is mediocre, and every other WR he's drafted, frankly has been terrible and hasn't developed.

Our ST's are horrible--Shanny has CONSISTENTLY traded back for multiple picks in the 5th, 6th, and 7th, in order to cheaply infuse our roster with depth. Not only have almost none of those picks panned out, they haven't even yielded enough depth players with ST's prowess to allow us to field a competitive, hell competent, unit!

Shanahan being in control of our drafts has been nothing but an unmitigated disaster, almost across the board, other than our highest pick every season (which even Vinny managed to almost always hit on). Because it's on him either way--either he's not drafting talent, or he's not developing the talent he drafted. It all falls at his feet--that's the beauty with a HC/GM being the same guy. You know exactly who to blame, and where to place the accountability.




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